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    State of Jets!!! (1/4 season)

    It's pretty clear what's going on in Rex's mind.
    At 2-2, Rex can not truly justify to himself replacing the old dawgs that have been the heart and soul of this team for the past 3-5 years with the young pups just yet.
    Look at this as the "last hurrah", for the older guys like Pace (last year here), BThomas (has already been released, but brought back), Scott (and you know Rex will ride or die with Scott, so this has to be tough on him), Pouha (who has not looked the same since returning with the back injury), and possibly Brandon Moore (who has played well so far, but may call it quits after this year).

    Austin Howard has played well enough at RT, that it can't really be called the problem it was last year.
    Slausen has regressed and has not been playing as well as we know him to be.
    Even Mangold has not been as good the past 2 years, as he was prior to that, and it's questionable if he is the #1 C in the league as of this moment.
    The only solidly consistent OL play we've seen has been from Moore and Brick.

    McIntyre and DDavis are chomping at the bit to play, and although they may not be there yet, they will definitely bring unbridled enthusiasm to the D.
    Coples and Ellis need to be inserted as starters.

    Also, the Jets need to scrap the 4-3 and get back to what they know the 3-4.
    Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Jets use various defensive formations and they run a hybrid of whatever, but they made their name with Rex with the 3-4 being their bread and butter. It's time to go back to what they know best.

    As far as WRs go, Chaz looked pretty good, now he'll have his time to shine, so we'll see if he's as good as the Lal thought he was when they signed him.
    Kerley belongs in the slot.
    And I'm not surprised PTurner was released after he dropped a pass last week (I'm shocked he dropped the pass, because he's usually been sure-handed).

    All is not lost with this team, it's just a matter of when Rex says enough is enough and the old dawgs must be removed for the young pups because it's what's best for the team.
    AND in Rex's defense, not all of that may be his call. Sometimes mgm't has a longer reach than you can understand and they want certain players playing to justify paying them what they do.

    If the team's downward trend continues a change will eventually be made to the starting roster, but for right now, let the vets go out on their shields.

    You figure 2-3 games is all it will take.

    Now on to QB:
    Drew Stanton is probably somewhere shaking his head.
    Sanchez is trying to hard to make plays, which means he's not reacting to the flow of the game, which means he's not doing proper progressions, which means inaccuracy.

    Tebow is not a conventional QB, but he may be able to do the one thing that Sanchez can't do and that's give the defense a breather. Tebow will never be a classic pocket QB, but he doesn't need to be, I'm not saying run the wildcat every play, but we may have no choice but to see what he can provide as the QB, if Sanchez can't sustain a drive.
    Side: The jump pass was sweet, even though Epps got laid out on a dirty shot to the knees.

    McElroy just needs to bide his time and opportunity may come to him if neither Sanchez or Tebow can get the team on the right path. There's no doubt Tebow would and should be next in line if Sanchez continues to falter, but McElroy should stay ready for in case he's needed.

    Even if the Jets need a rebuilding year, some of the pieces for a good foundation are there to maintain being somewhat competitive.

    Another point of note is a lot of money will be coming off the books at this season's end.
    Don't be surprised if you see more than the expected to be released by the team, and expect them to be avid player's in next year's free agency.

    Not writing off this year yet, and it's not all doom and gloom either.
    Let's see where this is going to take us, buckle up, it will be a rollercoaster ride but we just may have some fun on the way, and learn a thing or 2 about some players.


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    You guys should of signed Chad Henne.. At least he gets you in FG range lol> Not hatin

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    I stoped reading when you said moore and brick are the only consistant peices when brick clealy has not been hmself
    NY JETS .we just can't win the games we need to win
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttemptt View Post
    You guys should of signed Chad Henne.. At least he gets you in FG range lol> Not hatin
    Henne is backing up gabbert enufff said
    NY JETS .we just can't win the games we need to win
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    They need to start over. I know this sounds crazy. I've been a season ticket holder since Rich Kotite. THis team needs a make over.

    The only players i'd honestly keep are below:

    Defense:

    David Harris
    Revis
    Ellis
    Coples
    Wilkerson
    D. Davis
    G. Mcintyre

    Offense:

    Nick Mangold
    Brandon Moore
    Billal Powell (As a 2nd running back only)
    D'Brick (Although I wouldn't mind bringing in an upgrade at LT
    Kerley
    Hill
    Keller
    J.Mcknight (Kickoff returns only)

    Honestly, that's it. Holmes will be brought back because he's due $7.5 mil and I highly doubt that's tradable. The rest of the team I'd explore possible trades, qty draft picks, cuts and FA acquisitions. I think QB is still a huge problem as Sanchez has digressed. Rex Ryan probably receives a free pass for this year, but if no improvement through the above acquistions than I hate to say it..he's gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JETS TURN! View Post
    I stoped reading when you said moore and brick are the only consistant peices when brick clealy has not been hmself
    Brick has played well this year and has been the best OL we've had.
    Moore has been consistent in the the run and pass.

    There is nothing to dispute about that, when the Jets need to run they trust running over Moore than anyone else. Still!

    Mangold is good, BUT if you think he's had a great year than you haven't been watching him getting no push up front. He's playing his man to somewhat of a stand still which is good, but he's not getting the push we're used to seeing from him.

    As far as when you "stoped" reading, perhaps the vocab was to much for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ttemptt View Post
    You guys should of signed Chad Henne.. At least he gets you in FG range lol> Not hatin
    That was funny, well done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrX27 View Post
    Brick has played well this year and has been the best OL we've had.
    Moore has been consistent in the the run and pass.

    There is nothing to dispute about that, when the Jets need to run they trust running over Moore than anyone else. Still!

    Mangold is good, BUT if you think he's had a great year than you haven't been watching him getting no push up front. He's playing his man to somewhat of a stand still which is good, but he's not getting the push we're used to seeing from him.

    As far as when you "stoped" reading, perhaps the vocab was to much for you.
    Oh sorry I didnt know you were a grammar teacher sorry I dont use spell ceck or a ipad/phone to correct everything for me . And solidly is not a word grammar teacher.. So for brick to be solidly consistant sounds great

    When we run it goes right up the middle so how is that moores side? More of mangold then moore
    Brick is good but he didnt face a legite pass rusher yet this year. Wait till that happensto udge him. Mangold is the heart and soul od our oline..
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    NY JETS .we just can't win the games we need to win
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    LETS BALL!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JETS TURN! View Post
    Oh sorry I didnt know you were a grammar teacher sorry I dont use spell ceck or a ipad/phone to correct everything for me . And solidly is not a word grammar teacher.. So for brick to be solidly consistant sounds great
    Perhaps I should have "stoped" there.
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/solidly
    Your welcome!


    When we run it goes right up the middle so how is that moores side? More of mangold then moore
    Rarely do the Jets run it right up the middle over Mangold.
    Rarely do any teams run directly over their Center.
    Most run plays up the middle go over the Guards or G/T gap.

    Brick is good but he didnt face a legite pass rusher yet this year. Wait till that happensto udge him. Mangold is the heart and soul od our oline..
    So that's what this is about, your on Mangold's nutz, and your upset that he is not having a great a year that he has had in the past.

    Tough nuggets, get over it! Mangold is NOT playing like the elite #1 Center that he was a couple of years ago.

    If Mangold is the heart and soul of the OL, then the OL may need a transfusion from somewhere, perhaps RB.

    I've said it since last year, Kendall Hunter.
    At years' end offer to swap 2nds, or preferably 3rds with San Fran.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrX27 View Post
    So that's what this is about, your on Mangold's nutz, and your upset that he is not having a great a year that he has had in the past.

    Tough nuggets, get over it! Mangold is NOT playing like the elite #1 Center that he was a couple of years ago.

    If Mangold is the heart and soul of the OL, then the OL may need a transfusion from somewhere, perhaps RB.

    I've said it since last year, Kendall Hunter.
    At years' end offer to swap 2nds, or preferably 3rds with San Fran.
    Lmao @ you.. Kendall hunter really??./ convo
    NY JETS .we just can't win the games we need to win
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    Quote Originally Posted by JETS TURN! View Post
    Lmao @ you.. Kendall hunter really??./ convo
    Yes! /convo... because not only did Kendall Hunter "solidly" run for 56 yds on 8 carries against us, not only because he is avg 4.6 yds a carry on the season, but because you can't name me a better RB that will be available the 3rd round of this year's draft that will be better than him.
    And if the possibility exists of the Jets acquiring him with a swap of picks, then to rule out the exploration would be fruitless.

    You were fun, thanks for playing...
    /convo


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrX27 View Post
    Yes! /convo... because not only did Kendall Hunter "solidly" run for 56 yds on 8 carries against us, not only because he is avg 4.6 yds a carry on the season, but because you can't name me a better RB that will be available the 3rd round of this year's draft that will be better than him.
    And if the possibility exists of the Jets acquiring him with a swap of picks, then to rule out the exploration would be fruitless.

    You were fun, thanks for playing...
    /convo
    Not that it would be a bad move as we need all the offensive help we can get, Kendall Hunter himself was drafted in the 4th as have many other RBs in the league past & present so we could find one pretty easily if we actually scouted well. I just really am tired of giving away draft picks

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrX27 View Post
    Yes! /convo... because not only did Kendall Hunter "solidly" run for 56 yds on 8 carries against us, not only because he is avg 4.6 yds a carry on the season, but because you can't name me a better RB that will be available the 3rd round of this year's draft that will be better than him.
    And if the possibility exists of the Jets acquiring him with a swap of picks, then to rule out the exploration would be fruitless.

    You were fun, thanks for playing...
    /convo
    Dude, my dead grandmother could run for 56 yards against the Jets' run defense from the first part of this season...and she had no legs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo View Post
    Dude, my dead grandmother could run for 56 yards against the Jets' run defense from the first part of this season...and she had no legs.
    I have no legs... I have no legs


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    You make lot of good points, especially about Rex. He trusts his guys but it's time to move forward. It's like getting rid of your old car or old sneakers. You are so comfortable with them and they have brought you so far that it's hard to say goodbye and switch to a new pair or new vehicle, even though you know it will feel better and work better after the first ride or few steps.

    We need the kids on the field way more than they have been. If this season is to be successful, they need to be a part of it.

    The line looks flat. Brick is having a decent season but the fact that he is having a better season than the rest and he is still not killing it really sucks.

    Sanchez needs to pull it together. I give him three more games. If he can win 1 or play very well in all three, you have to let him play. If he stinks it up the next two, I will be conflicted.
    Keller needs to be huge.

    But we are 2-2 so the season is young and who knows what we can do. I still have hope.

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