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    Quote Originally Posted by SDBearsFan View Post
    Chilo's done for the season, per multiple beat writers. I don't think they can even activate him from the reserve list if they wanted to.
    Huh. I didn't know that the reserve list ended his season.

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    I'd think if the Bears take a chance on Aaron Curry, there's probably more an issue with Lance Briggs. Especially w/Geno Hayes in the fold, already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDBearsFan View Post
    The thing is, in a a Cover 2 scheme, really, any scheme in football defensively speaking, you can never have enough of a pass rush. Bringing in Babin on such a low deal makes a lot of sense, and as Phil says, he's ALWAYS looking for ways to improve the roster. All it takes is one injury to Izzy or one of the other guys for a minor move like this to pay off major dividends.

    Granted, like I mentioned earlier, there's no way he falls all the way to the Bears in the waiver order. If he did, though, the Bears would pounce.
    Lol, I know the the reasoning behind the cover 2. I understand the argument for bringing him in from a football standpoint, and I agree. Again though there just isn't space for him on this roster. You don't give up a roster spot assuming someone in your rotation is going to get injured. Otherwise you'd never have enough room. Peppers, Wootton, and Izzy are all playing well and you want to keep giving Shea reps so he can improve.

    Maybe I'm wrong and they somehow sign him and they move Izzy inside or not dress Shea. But I just don't see the fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ditka'sMustache View Post
    Lol, I know the the reasoning behind the cover 2. I understand the argument for bringing him in from a football standpoint, and I agree. Again though there just isn't space for him on this roster. You don't give up a roster spot assuming someone in your rotation is going to get injured. Otherwise you'd never have enough room. Peppers, Wootton, and Izzy are all playing well and you want to keep giving Shea reps so he can improve.

    Maybe I'm wrong and they somehow sign him and they move Izzy inside or not dress Shea. But I just don't see the fit.
    The Bears currently only have 52 players on their active roster, allotting them one more player to add. Louis went to IR, Akoye was cut.
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    I could see them sliding Izzy on the inside with Melton, Paea, and Collins. Babin would be on the end with Peppers, Wootton, and Shae.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDBearsFan View Post
    The Bears currently only have 52 players on their active roster, allotting them one more player to add. Louis went to IR, Akoye was cut.
    I am aware. But there are much more pressing positions we could use that player then DL. Would we get a more talented player then Babin? No. But we do have injuries in multiple places were we could use another body. Which in my eyes takes much more precedence over getting another depth DL when we already have a very deep rotation, and just cut a very decent player because of that very fact.

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    Biggs is being a little ***** tonight. He makes it seem like adding someone like Babin is a terrible idea. On the other hand, Jensen seems to be more open to it.

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    I heard we're going after Ditka so we have a TE that can play

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    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    Biggs is being a little ***** tonight. He makes it seem like adding someone like Babin is a terrible idea. On the other hand, Jensen seems to be more open to it.
    Yes lets add in a pure pass rush specialist only good in the wide 9 great idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cub_StuckinSTL View Post
    Yes lets add in a pure pass rush specialist only good in the wide 9 great idea
    We're not bringing him in to start, just to add depth. You can never have enough pass rushers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    We're not bringing him in to start, just to add depth. You can never have enough pass rushers.
    I dont want him because we already have 4 DE's and Babin takes away from Shea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cub_StuckinSTL View Post
    I dont want him because we already have 4 DE's and Babin takes away from Shea.
    Not to mention 1.4 mil into next years money we have to resign people.


    The more I think about it, we should stand pat, put some chump as number 53 and call it good. Not like that person will crack the game day roster anyway.
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    Jason Babin: Trash to Treasure?
    Heads will roll.

    That’s what we’ve been told to expect from Philadelphia after their descent from hot start to hot mess. And now we’re seeing it in action.

    That’s right the first big name to say bye-bye is Jason Babin who didn’t even make it to the end of year two of his five year deal. He joins fellow 2011 free agent Ray Edwards on the scrap heap after his team decided that long term he wasn’t worth what they’d invested in him

    Unlike Ray Edwards though Babin has something teams crave: pass rushing ability. And while Eagles fans seem glad to be rid of him, he’s still a productive player who is bound to draw some interest around the league.

    Let’s take a look.

    The Journey So Far

    Truth be told, for a variety of reasons (some of which he discussed here) Babin didn’t really live up to his draft status until he arrived in Tennessee in 2010. There he excelled in the wide-9 scheme, picking up 64 combined sacks, hits and hurries while ranking ninth in our grades for 4-3 defensive ends. That year with Tennessee he was a real force as part of their rotation, with the only real blemish being the 12 penalties for which he was flagged.

    Still he’d earned himself a big contract in Philadelphia and duly delivered in year one, once again finishing ninth in our 4-3 defensive end rankings. His get-after-the-QB at all costs attitude irritated a few but you couldn’t argue with the production rushing the passer. 67 quarterback disruptions and the second highest pass rushing productivity score of all 4-3 defensive ends.

    Worth the money and then some.

    Only this year things haven’t gone as smoothly. His sack numbers are down and the Eagles are struggling and he’s become an easy target for their fans. Yet still, he has the seventh highest pass rushing productivity score of all 4-3 defensive ends (Trent Cole is 12th) and when it comes to his run stop percentage he’s a credible 23rd at the position.

    Is he playing badly? No, but then at the same time I understand why the Eagles let him go.

    Stepping Up

    Yesterday the Eagles had 10 defensive linemen take snaps. That’s a ridiculously deep rotation, and having a guy like Babin on the roster was limiting how much we got to see of both Brandon Graham and Vinny Curry. Graham has been a situational superstar this year turning his 93 pass rushing opportunities into two sacks, four hits and 16 hurries. It didn’t make sense to limit his opportunities, while Philadelphia clearly need to start getting a look at second round pick Vinny Curry who saw his first 22 snaps (nine rushing the passer) against the Panthers.

    I get it, but it doesn’t mean Babin won’t be a good pickup for some team.

    The Candidates

    It’s always fun to speculate as to which teams might be interested in a player. Unlike Ray Edwards the tape on Babin is a guy who can still get pressure so teams looking for an immediate boost to their pass rushing ranks (even if in just a situational role) would be foolish to not at least consider him.

    Take a team like the Patriots. We know they’re not afraid of veterans if they think they can get production out of them. So with Chandler Jones coming back from an ankle knock and Jermaine Cunningham suspended ,is he not a player that would be of interest to them? If they’d pick up Aqib Talib then why not have a look over Babin?

    The Washington Redskins are a team that has struggled to replace Brian Orakpo and it’s made life a lot harder for Ryan Kerrigan. If they were to add a complimentary pass rusher, even in just their sub package defense so Babin has his hand on the ground, would that not help? They got a firsthand look at what we could do when he got the better of Tyler Polumbus with ease. A serious playoff push requires seriously asking these questions.

    Babin has always had his best joy with his hand(s) in the dirt which might not make him an ideal fit for a team in need of pass rush like the Packers, but after seeing them pick up one free agent in the shape of Cedric Benson would you put it past them to go after another?

    There are flaws to the game of Jason Babin, and while this ‘one trick pony’ tag is a bit overblown, making a move for him isn’t a guaranteed winner. But if you can pick up a guy on a short term deal with little risk, then why not give a talented guy a chance to earn himself a big deal come free agency?

    I’m no general manager but you can never have enough good pass rushers right?

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    I think people also forget that Peppers has plantar fasciaitis in both feet...just b/c it hasn't been reported, doesn't necessarily mean that it hasn't been really hampering him.
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