What if the Triple Crown did equate to the MVP?

[GasMan]

What three stats would you use if you were to recreate the Triple Crowns (pitching and positional) to equate to the MVPs (let's assume there is a separate pitching and position MVP).

[sexicano31]

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[Fly]

Pitching: FIP, xFIP & Innings Pitcher
Positional: wOBA, wRC+ & WAR

[Jeffy25]

I think it's a good question.

If I were to pick the Triple Crown stats of baseball now.


wOBA
wRC+
rWAR

For an offensive player

For a pitcher

ERA
FIP
rWAR

Would be pretty damn hard to do, and would be a greater accomplishment in my mind.

[MetsFanatic19]

I think it's a good question.

If I were to pick the Triple Crown stats of baseball now.


wOBA
wRC+
rWAR

For an offensive player

For a pitcher

ERA
FIP
rWAR

Would be pretty damn hard to do, and would be a greater accomplishment in my mind.

This

[Quinnsanity]

My issue with the triple crown is how closely HRs and RBIs equate. For example, if you hit the most HRs you're probably automatically in the top three or four for RBIs unless you just have horrific teammates. I'd want the three triple crown stats to be as uncorrelated as possible to show that the player succeeded in three very different ways.

[long ball]

Position player:
wRC+
PA
Position

Pitcher:
ERA
Innings
K:BB

Those are probably the three things I'd look at for each set if I'm going ignore WAR

[Jeffy25]

K:BB is a good one for pitchers, leading that is leading something special.

[albo23]

BA, RBI, and HR. Leading all three traditional categories has not been done in the modern era for good reason, it's hard to do. It's so hard to do, that when you do, most coaches and the majority of America thinks you should be MVP.

[FortDetroit]

WARP, ZORP, and PORK.

[jej]

BA, RBI, and HR. Leading all three traditional categories has not been done in the modern era for good reason, it's hard to do. It's so hard to do, that when you do, most coaches and the majority of America thinks you should be MVP.

Yeah, lets pick 3 close to worthless stats when comparing players, to decide who is best.

Why not just educate youself dude?

Id choose:
wRC+
wOBA
HR (Or WAR, just not a huge fan of WAR yet. Too random at times)

FIP
xFIP
ERA

[Nick O]

WAJ (Wins above Jason Bay)

[GasMan]

BA, RBI, and HR. Leading all three traditional categories has not been done in the modern era for good reason, it's hard to do. It's so hard to do, that when you do, most coaches and the majority of America thinks you should be MVP.

Is the late sixties not in the modern era? It's rare but that doesn't make it more valuable than actually helping your team win games. No one has ever walked 250 times in a season, would that automatically punch your MVP ticket? What if Cabby gets the TC but was historically bad at 3B, I'm talking 150 errors, worst range, true defensive liability. Still think he would be the MVP?

[sexicano31]

WAJ (Wins above Jason Bay)

That would make even a bench player be worth 10 wins

[SFrush90]

BA, RBI, and HR. Leading all three traditional categories has not been done in the modern era for good reason, it's hard to do. It's so hard to do, that when you do, most coaches and the majority of America thinks you should be MVP.

It's also hard to hit 30 home runs, steal 45 bases, and score 125 runs and that hasn't happened in the history of Major League Baseball, well until now. But that's not the topic.

Position:
wOBA
wRC+
WAR

Pitching:
FIP
xFIP
Mix of K% and BB%