well swash meant to vote for winterfell and voted for gm so 23-23? no idea about voters under 100 posts
Ended up giving my vote to Winterfell
2015 Cleveland Browns PSD mock
Pick #12: Danny Shelton DT Washington
Pick#19: Todd Gurley RB Georgia
Pick #43: Max Williams TE Minnesota
Pick #77: Brett Hundley QB UCLA
Pick #99: Hau'oli Kikaha OLB Washington
Pick #108: Darren Waller WR GT
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I don't even think it's a question that Humphries is a better option than Chalmers on offense. Chalmers is one year removed from being benched for ****ing Mike Bibby in the playoffs. Sure, he's added a consistent floater to his game as well as better handles, and a better jumper. But he's still nothing more than a mediocre offensive PG that can get maybe 10 PPG who provides good D. Humphries is a great rebounder who's actually not a bad defender and can provide 10-15 points in the paint, a good deal of those coming off boards. Let's not take Chalmers being on the best team in the NBA and make him out to be something he's not.
Official count with the 100 post rule as of now:
Winterfell = 24
St. Joseph = 22
That doesn't include if Swash wants to switch his vote from GM (lol) to Winterfell.
Don't F$@& this up, Flip
I'm not going to pretend that Chalmers is something he's not, but he plays on a team with Lebron, Wade and Bosh and because of it, his USG% was only 17.4 last season. Humphries played on a team with Williams and players who were never healthy, so his USG% was naturally higher at 19.3. Humphries also played far more minutes (not necessarily from skill... more from necessity). Per 36 minutes, Hump averaged fewer than 2 PPG more than Chalmers, but had a higher USG%.
Even out their USG% because they're playing on teams with similar offensive talent and give them the some number of minutes, and Chalmers easily averages a similar point output to Hump. Plus, his offensive game is far more versatile than Hump's, he can run an offense and even take over games in a pinch.
Battier actually is not that good defender at all anymore. He had great difficulty last year throughout the regular season and only elevated his play in the post season to a somewhat average level. Last year Battier gave up 0.85 PP which is alright. Nothing that special by any means. Again here we go with game tape or the eyes argument? How many full games did you watch Battier play in last year?
Last edited by Mile High Champ; 10-04-2012 at 12:43 PM.