2012-2013 Offseason Thread

[GA16Angels]

Sign Hamilton 4 years 100 trade bourjos and other peeps for wright sign soria maybe Madson cheap! I wouldn't mind Saunders but I feel they need another big pitcher. I also like McCarthy. Pretty solid to me!

If Bourjos is traded this winter, I guarantee you it will be for pitching. At this point it wouldn't make sense for us to trade for Wright since he's a free agent after next year and Cowart is supposed to be ready by 2014.

[Halopower31]

Plus if anyone is going to trade for Wright, it wouldn't be us. I see Oakland, Atlanta, Seattle, and the Red Sox as the front-runners for Wright.

[SeWwEwW]

I just want to see them in the playoffs again. Last time against Red Sox when tori hit a bomb.

But what about the relievers. Who would be good to pick up. Who to trade for? What relievers are on the block. Who fits best? The line up is pretty solid n now what to do with the rotation. So many questions.

[TheUltimateGM]

Crazy idea, but I feel like this would be the only way to get enough prospects for a Stanton deal.

Angels go all in (3 part deal):

with NYY:
Trade Callaspo for ARod/Manny Banuelos/Tyler Austin/Cash ($10M per season to cover part of ARod's contract over the next 5 seasons)

Why? The Yankees get rid of the ARod circus, and save a ton of money to get closer to the luxury tax threshold. The Angels have money to spend after cutting Haren, Ervin, Torii, and its looking more like Greinke is going to get grossly overpaid. The only reason the Angels would do this would be if the whole deal could go through.

with BOS:
Trade Trumbo for Matt Barnes/Allen Webster

Why? The Red Sox NEED a power-hitting 1B after losing AGon last year. Loney just isn't going to cut it. The Angels again do this as part of the larger master plan, while getting 2 of the Red Sox top 4 prospects. I even saw a Red Sox forum that mentioned this exact deal.

with MIA:
Trade Banuelos/Austin/Barnes/Webster/Conger/Cowart for Stanton/Nolasco

Why? Miami gets 6 top prospects and they get rid of the last bad contract on their team (Nolasco). The Angels pair Stanton with Trout, Pujols, Morales, and ARod is this case. They would still even have about $10M left over in their budget to address their final starting pitching and bullpen holes.

Lineup
CF Trout
SS Aybar
1B Pujols
RF Stanton
DH Morales
3B ARod
LF Wells
2B Kendrick
C Iannetta

C Hester
IF (McGhee)
IF Romine
OF Calhoun

SP Weaver
SP Wilson
SP (Minor) - Bourjos/Enright for Minor deal? - Braves need a CF leadoff batter and have mentioned PB
SP Nolasco
SP Richards

CL (Fujikawa/Mike Adams)
RP Frieri
RP Downs
RP Walden
RP Jepsen
RP Cassevah
RP Thompson/Kohn/Carpenter/Geltz/Mills/Maronde/Siske

[sager729]

Do you guys think that Gavin Floyd might interest the Angels? He is signed this year for a reasonable $9.5 million.

[SeWwEwW]

The Angels have interest in free agent closer Ryan Madson, according to Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com (via Twitter). The Phillies reportedly have interest in the right-hander, but Salisbury says that a reunion doesn't seem likely.

The 32-year-old declined his half of a $11MM mutual option for 2013, opting instead for a $2.5MM buyout. Madson missed the 2012 campaign after undergoing Tommy John surgery but a team willing to roll the dice could sign him with the hope that he will return to his 2009-2011 form. Madson wants to close for a team in 2013, but he won't be ready to pitch when the season begins.

A return to Cincinnati could still be in the cards for Madson as well as GM Walt Jocketty confirmed that the two sides have talked. The Reds are also exploring a return for Jonathan Broxton and have spoken with free agent Joakim Soria.


Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#kW5DRr7iVcHPTZxm.99


Wouldn't mind this at all

[vladdy#27]

Crazy idea

Yes exactly that

Do you guys think that Gavin Floyd might interest the Angels? He is signed this year for a reasonable $9.5 million.

We talked about this a few pages back, I wouldnt mind bringing in Floyd

The Angels have interest in free agent closer Ryan Madson, according to Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com (via Twitter). The Phillies reportedly have interest in the right-hander, but Salisbury says that a reunion doesn't seem likely.

The 32-year-old declined his half of a $11MM mutual option for 2013, opting instead for a $2.5MM buyout. Madson missed the 2012 campaign after undergoing Tommy John surgery but a team willing to roll the dice could sign him with the hope that he will return to his 2009-2011 form. Madson wants to close for a team in 2013, but he won't be ready to pitch when the season begins.

A return to Cincinnati could still be in the cards for Madson as well as GM Walt Jocketty confirmed that the two sides have talked. The Reds are also exploring a return for Jonathan Broxton and have spoken with free agent Joakim Soria.


Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#kW5DRr7iVcHPTZxm.99


Wouldn't mind this at all

If we could get the Asian dude and Madson that would be pretty awesome

[vladdy#27]

Dipoto loves Madson, who's from SoCal, and isn't afraid to take a chance on a post-TJ guy (#Angels went hard after Nathan last year).

Nothing was ever said about us going after Nathan last year, but man he would have been nice in our pen last year

Ideal #Angels 'pen is Frieri in 8th, Jepsen in 7th & Downs as floater. Madson does that. @JonHeymanCBS & @JSalisburyCSN reported interest.

[vladdy#27]

Ryan Madson is in talks about a possible deal with the Angels.

Madson is looking for a closer job more than anything, so his home-area team could make a decent match. The Angels have Ernesto Frieri who could close or set up.

Jim Salisbury of Philly CSN first mentioned the Angels as a possibility.

Madson missed 2012 after Tommy John surgery, and has received interest from several teams, including the Reds, Red Sox and Nationals. He is from Souther California.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jo...e-their-closer

But it's hard to ignore the Boras factor, especially given rotation holes #Angels need to fill. Any Madson deal probably incentive-laden.

If we could get him for 5M with incentives that push it up to around 7M-8M that would be awesome

Maybe something like 80+ IP (8M) 70-79.2 IP (7M) 60-69.2 IP (6M) 59.2 IP and less (5M)

[Halopower31]

I would love Madson on our team! I really wanted the Angels to sign him last year and I'm even willing to give him a deal worth 7M and a second year vesting option worth 11M if he reaches 60IP

[GA16Angels]

Both Fujikawa and Madson come with risks, but I think I'd prefer to sign Fujikawa over Madson. However, if we were able to get Madson rather cheaply I'd like to get him. My only concern is that he apparently won't be ready for the beginning of the season.

[vladdy#27]

Earlier today, we learned the Angels are interested in Ryan Madson. Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports the Angels are indeed in talks with Madson about a possible deal. MLB.com's Alden Gonzalez adds, via Twitter, that GM Jerry Dipoto loves Madson, a Southern California native, and isn't afraid to take a chance on a closer coming off Tommy John surgery, as evident by last offseason's pursuit of Joe Nathan. Gonzalez also tweets any deal will probably be incentive-laden. Here are some more Angels notes from Gonzalez, who recently cleaned out in his inbox and answered emails from his readers:

Gonzalez advances the idea the Angels may be better off not re-signing Zack Greinke. The arugment goes since the Angels already have one ace in Jered Weaver, they will have more financial flexibility to fill the two holes they have in their rotation and to rebuild their bullpen, if Greinke signs elsewhere. Either way, the Angels are handcuffed until Greinke makes his decision.

The Yankees, Red Sox, and Braves will not be factors in the Greinke derby, but the Dodgers and Rangers could really mess up the Angels' plans.

Free agency will be the Angels' best bet to fill their holes because they don't have much minor league talent to offer in trade.

Gonzalez would be shocked if Kendrys Morales is traded because he is viewed as a bargain in arbitration and is a crucial left-handed presence in a lineup that leans heavily to the right.

Look for Alberto Callaspo, who provides solid defense and draw walks, to man third base in 2013 with top prosect Kaleb Cowart taking over in 2014.

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[vladdy#27]

Dodgers tv deal, 1st reported by Deadline to be $6-7B, is great news for the #Phillies, who have better ratings

And we were happy about our TV deal last off season

[GA16Angels]

And we were happy about our TV deal last off season

So is that the TV deal that gets them Greinke like our's got us Pujols?

[popo85]

Happy they are keeping KMo, Madson hopefully can get back to form he had from 2007-2011 before the surgery.