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    Should/Will Helton get as much respect as Chipper?

    Todd Helton has decided that the 2013 season will be his last, Will/should Helton get as much respect from fans and players as Chipper has this year. (standing ovations from opposing fans, bobble head night, ceremony at end of year, getting put on the NL all star team even if his numbers are not as great as others, etc....) Not taking anything away from Chipper, he has had an all star year, but at the time of the All Star game, his numbers were not as great as they are now at the end of the year.


    Chipper Jones vs. Todd Helton Comparison

    Hits: 2724 vs. 2420
    Home Runs: 468 vs. 354
    RBI: 1623 vs. 1345
    AVG: .303 vs. .320
    All Star Appearances: 8 vs. 5
    Gold Gloves: 0 vs. 3
    Silver Slugger Award: 2 vs. 4
    MVP Award: 1 vs. 0
    MLB Years Played: 18 vs. 16
    World Series Rings: 1 vs. 0

    Both played their entire careers for their respective franchise. If Helton decides that next year is his last, they both would have played their last season in their age 40 season. I think that they are very, very similar. Chipper is arguably the best player in Braves franchise history other than Hank Aaron. Helton is arguably the best Rockie in franchise history period. Chipper might have a shot at another ring this year, but Helton's Rockies will most likely not have a shot next year. Either way, i think Todd Helton has earned the same respect that Chipper Jones has earned throughout his career. Do you?
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    Chipper's got a ring. Just an assumption, I don't think they'll do the same for Helton. I have no real proof as to why, but I just believe people see Chipper as more of an icon than Helton.
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    A ring? Did he win it himself?

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    I would hope so Helton and Chipper are alot alike in terms of likeability.

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    Helton is a great guy but no sadley they won't give him that

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    idk why not?

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    it's very simple, helton is a product of coors field. his numbers are dramatically different away from coors...too lazy to look it up. but it's plain and simple.

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    When you look at the splits for Helton, his career isn't exactly mind-blowing. I dislike Jones a lot for talking **** about Toronto but I'd take him any day of the week over Helton.

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    i think he should, didnt put a poll up cuz i want to see peoples reasoning. i think he deserves the respect, just like chipper. im sure he'll get it from Colorado, but maybe not nationally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chickendinner11 View Post
    it's very simple, helton is a product of coors field. his numbers are dramatically different away from coors...too lazy to look it up. but it's plain and simple.
    He was still a very good hitter. It's not like he was a Carlos Gonzalez. But I don't think his numbers would be as close to Chipper's if he played somewhere else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SFrush90 View Post
    Chipper's got a ring. Just an assumption, I don't think they'll do the same for Helton. I have no real proof as to why, but I just believe people see Chipper as more of an icon than Helton.
    Jones is elite at his position while Helton is good but is not going to be remembered as one of the best 1B of all time.

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    Todd Helton career Home/Road splits...

    Home: .350/.447/.613.. 216 HR.. 1078 G

    Road: .289/.389/.475.. 138 HR.. 1045 G
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    Quote Originally Posted by chickendinner11 View Post
    it's very simple, helton is a product of coors field. his numbers are dramatically different away from coors...too lazy to look it up. but it's plain and simple.
    Career numbers:

    wOBA:
    Home - .427
    Away - .367

    OPS:
    Home - 1.013
    Away - .846

    wRC+:
    Home - 151
    Away - 111

    Sure, there's a dropoff from home to away, but honestly did anyone expect there not to be? It's coors field.. He's still been great/above average on the road, not to mention his great fielding and loyalty to one team throughout his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chickendinner11 View Post
    it's very simple, helton is a product of coors field. his numbers are dramatically different away from coors...too lazy to look it up. but it's plain and simple.
    The splits aren't THAT big. He goes from being a very good hitter on the road to Barry Bonds at home. Unlike CarGo who goes from Pujols at home to scrub on the road

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    plus a lot of players hit better at home anyways, so i dont think the splits are dramatic enough to say that he was only good because of coors

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