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View Poll Results: Who is the best SF ever!

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  • Larry Bird

    121 63.68%
  • LBJ

    55 28.95%
  • Dr. J

    6 3.16%
  • The Human Highlight Film

    0 0%
  • Scottie Pippen

    3 1.58%
  • Alex English

    0 0%
  • James Worthy

    0 0%
  • John Havlicek (very underated player)

    0 0%
  • Elgin Baylor (best rebounder on the list)

    2 1.05%
  • Rick Barry

    3 1.58%
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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYKalltheway View Post
    Larry Bird
    Dominique Wilkins
    Elgin Baylor
    Rick Barry (not really a SF though)
    Scottie Pippen
    Julius Erving (not really a SF though)
    John Havlicek (not really a SF though)
    the rest
    Wilkins sucked as I proved in spades last year to your chagrin, drop him off that list.

    Barry was a selfish jerk - move down

    How is Erving not a SF? What was he a PF? Please.

    Havlicek was not a PF, and while he played some #2, he played it more on the offensive side, because any athletic #2 would blow by him.


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

    Some jerks never learn.....

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    Havlicek underrated? I don't think so.

    He was this:

    1. greatest sixth man in NBA history
    2. very fine defender (but not against stud PF's or very quick SG's (after his first 5 years)
    3. very long career
    4. a very good passer
    5. a volume shooter with meh FG% even in his day.

    He's generally listed in the back end of the 20's all time, and that's about right. If you don't know the guys from his era, he's underrated, if you do, he fits in just fine.


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

    Some jerks never learn.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    You can only compare guys against the guys they played against. Everything else is conjecture.

    What is not conjecture is that Bird rose to the challenge - by the likes of Magic, Erving, Jordan, etc. and didn't fold and crap his pants like LBJ has in 3 of the last 5 years in the playoffs. Bird in 1980-1987 played at a level LBJ has not as of yet played at.

    It's nice to be an athletic freak, it's better to be a better shooter, passer, and leader.

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    As of now it's Larry, but when all is said and done, it'll be Bron

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    Everyone just do me a favor and look at Larry Bird's statistics and achievements and then don't say anything.

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    The LeBron super-team **** is such a joke. Bird had a top-3 all-time PF, a top-10 or 15 center, and one of the top defensive guards of all-time. Cleveland was not getting him help so he had to go somewhere else and why would you not want to play with 2 of your best friends in South Beach.

    Lets look at all the top players in NBA history and their supporting cast.
    Bird - Kevin McHale, Robert Parish, Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge, Bill Walton
    Magic - Kareem, James Worthy, Bob McAdoo
    Wilt - Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Gail Goodrich
    Dr. J- Moses Malone, Bob McAdoo, Charles Barkley
    Kobe- Shaq, Pau Gasol, Karl Malone, Gary Payton
    Jordan - Pippen, Rodman
    Lebron - Wade, Bosh

    Face it, the top players always have greatness around then too.

    Teddy Bridgewater | Andrew Wiggins | Byron Buxton
    THE FUTURE IS NOW

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    ^^^ With that being said my list is

    1. Bird
    2. LeBron
    3. Baylor
    4. Dr. J
    5. Havlicek
    6. Pippen
    7. Barry
    8. Nique
    9. Big Game James
    10. English

    Teddy Bridgewater | Andrew Wiggins | Byron Buxton
    THE FUTURE IS NOW

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    Quote Originally Posted by amos1er View Post
    For sure his defense is better, but his overall numbers aren't that much better for me to give him a significant edge. Bird also didn't join a super team to win his titles. Bird in his prime was a statistical monster...I honestly don't know if Lebron had a better year that this:


    30 PPG, 9.3 RPG, 6.1 APG, 53% FG, 40% 3PT, 92% FT

    .608 TS%, .556 eFG%, .243 WS/48

    If Lebron won his title on a conventional "non superteam" I might agree with you. But since he decided to team up with Wade and Bosh I have to handicap him a bit...thats why I said 2 more titles and 1 MVP or 3 titles and no more MPV's.

    You also have to take competition into account. Lebron didn't have to face any great rival in the finals yet nor has he had an opponent as great as the showtime Lakers or even the the 81 Sixers for that matter. The 80's were far more competitive than the current era and therefore the degree of difficulty in winning a title must be taken into account. The 2012 playoff match ups that the Heat went through to win their title would have been a cake walk for most of Birds Celtic teams in the 80's. In addition, Bird didn't have teammates as good as Wade and Bosh. Therefore Lebron's one title isn't worth as much as one of Larry's.

    I give Lebron credit for being the slightly better individual talent statistically and defensively and have weighed that into my assessment that he would need either 2 more titles and 1 MVP or 3 titles and no more MVP's.
    He was already on one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYKalltheway View Post
    Larry Bird
    Dominique Wilkins
    Elgin Baylor
    Rick Barry (not really a SF though)
    Scottie Pippen
    Julius Erving (not really a SF though)
    John Havlicek (not really a SF though)
    the rest

    As one dimensional as it gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AP=MVP View Post
    The LeBron super-team **** is such a joke. Bird had a top-3 all-time PF, a top-10 or 15 center, and one of the top defensive guards of all-time. Cleveland was not getting him help so he had to go somewhere else and why would you not want to play with 2 of your best friends in South Beach.

    Lets look at all the top players in NBA history and their supporting cast.
    Bird - Kevin McHale, Robert Parish, Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge, Bill Walton
    Magic - Kareem, James Worthy, Bob McAdoo
    Wilt - Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Gail Goodrich
    Dr. J- Moses Malone, Bob McAdoo, Charles Barkley
    Kobe- Shaq, Pau Gasol, Karl Malone, Gary Payton
    Jordan - Pippen, Rodman
    Lebron - Wade, Bosh

    Face it, the top players always have greatness around then too.
    Only difference is they didn't call everyother an arrange to play together so they can win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakerfan In NY View Post
    Only difference is they didn't call everyother an arrange to play together so they can win.
    True, but that hardly even matters at this point. LeBron's career isn't over yet and Bird was fortunate enough to be on a team that had HOF's galore.

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    In terms of peak ability, Bird himself has wondered if anyone has ever won in the fashion Bron just did. But because I'm the type to not put much stock in peer review ill go ahead and assume hes just being modest.

    But really people, long term wise, we all know, all Bron has to do is sustain this level of play a few more years and Larrys in the rear view, Bird didn't last long at all and he didn't take care if his body.
    Yo Kobe, get at me bro, we'd have a good time, man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heatcheck:23763893
    Quote Originally Posted by NYKalltheway View Post
    Larry Bird
    Dominique Wilkins
    Elgin Baylor
    Rick Barry (not really a SF though)
    Scottie Pippen
    Julius Erving (not really a SF though)
    John Havlicek (not really a SF though)
    the rest

    As one dimensional as it gets.
    Rick Barry, one dimensional?
    Yo Kobe, get at me bro, we'd have a good time, man

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    I know it's a crazy thought kids but there was an NBA before MJ.. Don't be afraid to look into the past.

    Right now 21 votes for LBJ being the BEST SF of all time? Cmon Son. I love LeBron's game but It's Larry by a lot right now, LeBron MAY pass him later but he has much to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronz View Post
    Rick Barry, one dimensional?
    i didnt mean to bold barry, scuse me.

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