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    Byron Scott Fired/Coaching Search Thread

    BREAKING: Byron Scott fired by Cavaliers, league source confirms to Akron Beacon Journal
    -Jason Lloyd

    Byron Scott was fired today by the Cavaliers, a league source told the Akron Beacon Journal, one day after completing his third season in charge. He departs with a 64-166 record and his .278 winning percentage is the lowest in team history among all coaches (minimum one full season).

    Rumors over Scott’s future intensified over the past couple of weeks as the Cavaliers regressed during the month of April, blew big leads throughout the season and gave a sub-par effort on multiple nights.

    Owner Dan Gilbert has been unhappy with the Cavs’ lack of defensive improvement over the past three years, one team source said, speaking on condition of anonymity given the sensitivity of the situation, and Gilbert was the driving force behind the firing.

    The Cavs were never supposed to win this season, but Gilbert told the Beacon Journal during training camp that this was an important year to see progress.

    “I don’t even know what the definition of that is,” Gilbert said in October. “But you’ll know it when you see it.”

    The team clearly didn’t show enough of it this year, at least not to the owner’s liking.

    The Cavs finished last in the league in defensive field-goal percentage, allowing opponents to shoot better than 47 percent. During Scott’s three years in charge, opponents shot .475, .467 and .476 this season. They never ranked higher than 27th in the league defensively.

    The team suffered the two biggest collapses in franchise history this season, blowing a 26-point lead to the Phoenix Suns and a 27-point lead to the Miami Heat in March. They lost to the New York Knicks after leading by 22 points, they blew a 14-point lead to the Boston Celtics during the last eight minutes and then lost to the Indiana Pacers after leading by 20 with nine minutes left. They became the first team in 15 years to lose four games they led by at least 20 points, according to Elias Sports Bureau.

    General Manager Chris Grant was believed to be a supporter of Scott’s until the final days, when the team regressed amidst crushing losses and poor efforts.

    Players and another member of the organization privately criticized Scott to the Beacon Journal in an explosive story late last month, questioning the coach’s grueling practices, his substitution patterns and his in-game strategies.

    One player privately ripped Scott for his rigorous training camps and demanding practices late into the season, and another high-ranking member of the organization questioned Scott’s rotation, which often left Kyrie Irving on the bench in the fourth quarter until the game’s final few minutes.

    More than once, the organization had to circle back and correct or clarify something the coach said during interview sessions, and Scott’s old school approach and complete disregard for numbers-driven analytics bothered a few within the organization.

    The relationship between coach and star player also seemed to disintegrate in recent weeks. Irving conceded to being “disinterested” after a midseason loss at Detroit and committed mental blunders both on and off the court as the season concluded.

    He hasn’t appeared to be the same player since the All-Star break and conceded before the season finale Wednesday that the frustration of losing and struggling to get back into a rhythm was wearing on him. He shot 47 percent and 43 percent on 3-pointers in 42 games during the first half of the season, but he slipped to 41 percent from the floor and 33 percent on 3-pointers after the break.

    Irving sidestepped an initial opportunity to give Scott a strong endorsement but circled back earlier this week and said “absolutely” he wanted Scott to return.

    The long-held belief that Irving and Scott were inseparable clearly eroded over the past few weeks.

    “They’re close, but they’re not attached at the hip,” one player in the locker room said in recent weeks as Scott’s job security came into question. “I don’t think Kyrie would be really crushed or anything if he was fired.”

    Scott’s time with the Cavs will be widely viewed as incomplete, despite the dismal record. He took the job likely believing he was going to coach LeBron James, but when James left for the Miami Heat days after Scott took the job, the Cavs launched a lengthy rebuild through the draft. He was never able to field a complete roster full of NBA-caliber players and injuries sabotaged any chance the Cavs had at success this season.

    They had their projected starting lineup intact for only 10 games. The most devastating injury was Anderson Varejao’s split quadriceps muscle, which ultimately ended his season after he developed a blood clot post-surgery.

    Yet even when the Cavs had some semblance of a healthy roster and steady rotation during the month of February, they went 7-5 — their one and only winning month under Scott’s direction.

    Scott was often given assurances he would be the coach through the rebuild and when the team returned to contention. Even as rumors swirled about his future, he still had ongoing talks with Grant about plans for the upcoming summer and targets in this draft. He made it clear recently he is interested in finding another job quickly, although he didn’t rule out another stint with ESPN. He was working for the network as an analyst when the Cavs hired him in 2010.

    Now the search will begin for his replacement. With perhaps as many as 10 head coaching jobs opening this offseason, the Cavs are expected to move quickly. Candidates they could have an interest in include Indiana Pacers assistant Brian Shaw, Golden State Warriors assistant Mike Malone, Miami Heat assistant David Fizdale and former Orlando Magic coach Stan Van Gundy. Even former coach Mike Brown — as far-fetched as it may seem on the surface — cannot be dismissed as a candidate to return.

    Coaching legend Phil Jackson has reportedly shown interest in returning to the NBA, and the Cavs pursued him in 2005 before hiring Brown, but much has changed since then and it’s doubtful Jackson would have interest in the Cavs now that they’re in the midst of a rebuild.
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    The Cleveland Cavaliers have released Head Coach Byron Scott, the team announced today from Cleveland Clinic Courts. The announcement was made by Cavaliers General Manager Chris Grant.

    “I have tremendous respect for Byron professionally and a great deal of admiration for him personally. At the same time, it is critical for where we are as a team to ensure that we capitalize on every opportunity for development and success and we have fallen short of that on the court,” said Grant. “I believe we needed to make this change in order to get to a better position to achieve our goals. I know I speak on behalf of the entire Cavs organization and the Cleveland community, in thanking Byron for his three years here and his hard work and many contributions on and off the court. We wish Bryon and his wife, Anita, the best.” Scott, 52, was named the 18th head coach in Cleveland Cavaliers history on July 1, 2010. The Cavaliers’ record during Scott’s tenure as Head Coach was 64-166.

    “I want to thank Chris Grant, Dan Gilbert and the Cavaliers organization for the opportunity I had to coach this team the last three seasons. Anita and I have enjoyed our time here in Cleveland and greatly appreciate the support we received from this special community and the many friendships we developed. I am certainly proud of the progress that many of our players have made and greatly appreciate the dedication of my coaches and our team in our efforts to attain the success we all desired.”

    The Cavaliers will immediately commence a search, led by General Manager Chris Grant, for the team’s next head coach.

    "I wish Byron Scott and his entire family the best going forward. Byron is a class guy, both on and off the court, and I thank him for his three years of coaching the Cavaliers,” said Cavaliers majority owner Dan Gilbert.

    “I fully support the difficult move that was made today. Although we saw progress with young individual player development, we did not see the kind of progress we expected on the team level this past season. We understand it was challenging with the injuries, but when you are at our stage in the building process, you don't only measure team progress in wins and losses.

    It has been our strong and stated belief that when our team once again returns to competing at the NBA's highest levels it will be because we have achieved our goals on the defensive side of the court.

    Our fans have been incredibly loyal and supportive during these transition years. They deserve better than we have been delivering as of late and it is our full intent to deliver them the kind of competitive team that they expect to see on the court beginning next season,” Gilbert concluded.
    http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/release...eleased-130418

    The Cavaliers are one of many teams that will be in the market for a new coach this offseason, and the pool of candidates would seem to be divided into four basic categories. These are not necessarily candidates the Cavs will contact, just some possibilities -- as wild as some of them are:

    Shoot for the moon

    • Phil Jackson: The former Bulls and Lakers coach has been retired for two seasons, which might be enough time away to refresh his batteries. He certainly seemed interested when the Lakers toyed with bringing him back after firing Mike Brown earlier this season, and he tweeted for AOL during the NCAA tournament, so he's keeping his hand in things.

    • Mike Krzyzewski: Could the most respected college coach of this generation be lured away from Duke to reunite with point guard Kyrie Irving?

    College coaches

    • Tom Izzo: The Michigan State coach was considering the Cavs before it was known if LeBron James was leaving in the summer of 2010. Now he'd have Irving, Tristan Thompson, Dion Waiters and Tyler Zeller for sure.

    • John Calipari: The Kentucky coach took a turn in New Jersey. Would he consider returning to the NBA with Cleveland? What if the Cavs got the No. 1 pick in the draft and used it on Nerlens Noel?

    • Keith Dambrot: A drastic move to help lure LeBron James back? Now the Akron coach, Dambrot coached James at St. Vincent St. Mary High School and the two remain close.

    • Larry Brown: Coaching vagabond currently at Southern Methodist but he always has intrigued Cavs owner Dan Gilbert, who discussed a front office position with Brown at one time.

    • Rick Pitino/John Beilein: The Louisville and Michigan coaches, respectively, just competed for the NCAA title. Are they ready to move on? Pitino already coached the Celtics. Beilein coached Mike Gansey, the Cavs director of development league operations and Cavs basketball operations assistant.

    Former NBA head coaches

    • Mike Brown: Would certainly fix what ails the Cavs defensively, but this seems like a stretch.

    • Nate McMillan: Former Seattle and Portland coach was known as a good defender, but his teams actually were strongest in their half-court offense.

    • Flip Saunders: Known more for his massive offensive playbook, but has local ties as a former Cuyahoga Heights star and also is a former Detroit Pistons coach, which may appeal to Gilbert.

    • Mo Cheeks: Currently an assistant in Oklahoma City but former head coach in Portland and Philadelphia.

    • Jerry Sloan: A legendary no-nonsense coach who interviewed for a number of jobs last summer.

    • Jeff Van Gundy/Stan Van Gundy: Neither is coaching now but neither looks like a good fit here.

    Highly regarded NBA assistants

    • Mike Malone: Former Mike Brown assistant now with Golden State has been atop of the list of likely head coaching candidates for some time now, though his strength is offense.

    • Brian Shaw: Withdrew his name from consideration when Byron Scott was hired, but players in Indiana love him.

    • Melvin Hunt: Another well-liked former Cavs assistant whose strength was defense.

    • Rex Kalamian/Mike Budenholzer: If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, why not hire an assistant from Oklahoma City or San Antonio, respectively?
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    Lets do this next season. Im hyped. Phil Jackson brings the triangle offense to Cleveland with a guy that reminds me of Jordan in College Oladipo, Lakers draft pick Mitch Mcgrary, trade Walton or AV with one or both of those second round picks to the Twolves for thier late first round pick and Alexey Shved then draft Crabbe or Hardaway jr. Im reaching with the trade I know but love to have Crabbe and Shved here to back up Waiter and Irving.

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    Sloan or either Van GUndy i wouldnt mind either...

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    Please stop right now with Sloan, Van Gundy (either one), Coach K and especially Phil Jackson. Its like some don't even follow the NBA or the Cavs and just hear a big name and expect them to come because they aren't coaching and the Cavs are looking.

    Sorry Melo saw you posted the PD article in here as I just did in the other thread.

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    Not a problem, man. As for the coaching search, my top two options are Brian Shaw and Mike Malone. I like what both would bring to the team and Malone improving our defense would be a big boost in his favor. I've already seen plenty of rumors about Mike Brown but I'm not looking in that direction yet. If it comes to fruition, I'll be fine with it, I just want a top minded offensive assistant brought in as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ottograham14 View Post
    Please stop right now with Sloan, Van Gundy (either one), Coach K and especially Phil Jackson. Its like some don't even follow the NBA or the Cavs and just hear a big name and expect them to come because they aren't coaching and the Cavs are looking.

    Sorry Melo saw you posted the PD article in here as I just did in the other thread.
    Hey Otto,

    I've been browsing the forums for a few years, and just joined so that I may add my two cents. I have great respects for the opinions presented in your posts, for the most part, and usually find them informed and insightful. It is true that Cleveland is not the most desirable location for young, wealthy athletes, or for anyone who doesn't appreciate the blisteringly cold winds coming off Lake Erie in the winter. With that said however I would not rule out an accomplished coach coming to join the organization.

    I am not sure that coach K will ever leave the college ranks, and perhaps it's true that Phil Jackson is just too big-time to come coach the Cavs, even with the promising young core of players. A coach like Jerry Sloan, or Stan Van Gundy maybe a good fit though. Salt Lake City and Orlando are a far cry from NY, LA and Chicago. I sure would love to see if Jackson is as good of a coach as we all think he is though...

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    Woudnt mind and actually believe its gonna happen to totally different things. You have dreams in life you know you may not ever reach them but you still try and hope. SOme people remind me of what i used to tell kids when i coached and teamates when I played surround yourself with the "Why Not" people and seperate yourself from the "Why" people some people will no matter what you want or try wll ask you why ar eyou doing this, why you think its possible. Surrounding yourself with the why not people is how you succeed the people when you tell them they say why not and tryto help you achieve it, and you help with thiers as well. just a good lil note for the people who always wanna crush peoples dreams, andhave something negative about everything they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeus View Post
    Hey Otto,

    I've been browsing the forums for a few years, and just joined so that I may add my two cents. I have great respects for the opinions presented in your posts, for the most part, and usually find them informed and insightful. It is true that Cleveland is not the most desirable location for young, wealthy athletes, or for anyone who doesn't appreciate the blisteringly cold winds coming off Lake Erie in the winter. With that said however I would not rule out an accomplished coach coming to join the organization.

    I am not sure that coach K will ever leave the college ranks, and perhaps it's true that Phil Jackson is just too big-time to come coach the Cavs, even with the promising young core of players. A coach like Jerry Sloan, or Stan Van Gundy maybe a good fit though. Salt Lake City and Orlando are a far cry from NY, LA and Chicago. I sure would love to see if Jackson is as good of a coach as we all think he is though...
    I get why you say that, but it's unlikely. Another thing to think about as well is how long would those guys coach? Right now I think it's important to find the guy that is going to lead us in the future and most of the guys mentioned aren't long term options. I think Stan Van Gundy is a guy that could hold the position for a while, but at that point it's about fit. I like him as a coach, I'm just not sure how well him and Kyrie would mesh.

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    Also, the posters in the NBA Forum have literally no clue what they're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeus View Post
    Hey Otto,

    I've been browsing the forums for a few years, and just joined so that I may add my two cents. I have great respects for the opinions presented in your posts, for the most part, and usually find them informed and insightful. It is true that Cleveland is not the most desirable location for young, wealthy athletes, or for anyone who doesn't appreciate the blisteringly cold winds coming off Lake Erie in the winter. With that said however I would not rule out an accomplished coach coming to join the organization.

    I am not sure that coach K will ever leave the college ranks, and perhaps it's true that Phil Jackson is just too big-time to come coach the Cavs, even with the promising young core of players. A coach like Jerry Sloan, or Stan Van Gundy maybe a good fit though. Salt Lake City and Orlando are a far cry from NY, LA and Chicago. I sure would love to see if Jackson is as good of a coach as we all think he is though...
    Thanks for the words and I would be more than happy to have one of these mentioned Coaches come to Cleveland but I just don't think fans or media for that matter should get their hopes up especially with the likes of one of the Van Gundys (Stan might come here but do we really want him), Coach K (don't see him like you stated leaving college but people will tie together the KI factor and start assuming), Jerry Sloan (left Utah apperantly because of the youth movement and time for Utah to go in a new direction so don't understand why he would come here) and finally Phil Jackson (where he apperantly does not want to coach anymore but wants to get into a management position).

    If they go with the accomplished coach I would not be surprised to see it be Flip Saunders, Avery Johnson (who wasn't mentioned in Boyers article or Nate McMillan). The thing is though that none of them are expets in the defensive aspect so that would not coincide with what Gilbert has been saying recently in wanting to improve on the defensive end.

    It will be very telling just like in FA who they bring in as if they do bring in someone that has HC'ing experience you would think that they believe they can win pretty soon.

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    i dont understand why you choose to diss peoples believes and ideas, when its people you communicate with daily and give you a oppurtunity to have a opinion because they are here to listen to those opinions? Id understand arguing over it if you had a tv show and it was your job, but to redicule and put down people you could some what call friends I just cant get. Disaster strikes and you figure it would pull people together more, but yet you come here and people still downing each other. Im glad your all here, i live away from cleveland not because of choice but because this is where I have to be, and this is a way to enjoy talking about the cleveland teams I love. Im glad for each and everyone of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melo15 View Post
    Also, the posters in the NBA Forum have literally no clue what they're talking about.
    Yeah Im just going to stay out of there or I can see myself getting an infraction with some of those fools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlessyen View Post
    i dont understand why you choose to diss peoples believes and ideas, when its people you communicate with daily and give you a oppurtunity to have a opinion because they are here to listen to those opinions? Id understand arguing over it if you had a tv show and it was your job, but to redicule and put down people you could some what call friends I just cant get. Disaster strikes and you figure it would pull people together more, but yet you come here and people still downing each other. Im glad your all here, i live away from cleveland not because of choice but because this is where I have to be, and this is a way to enjoy talking about the cleveland teams I love. Im glad for each and everyone of you.
    Who are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ottograham14 View Post
    Yeah Im just going to stay out of there or I can see myself getting an infraction with some of those fools.
    It is pretty humorous how they have no idea what they're talking about yet act like their opinions are facts. It isn't a surprise though, everyone criticizes any move a Cleveland team makes.

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