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    Quote Originally Posted by The Top Shelfer View Post
    Yes and everyone knows you can't possibly read someone's whole body of work in a thread before responding to it stupidly.

    Seguin has said, repeatedly mind you, that Yandle's defense is not much better than Wideman's. That is it, not that Wideman is better at defense, not that he thinks personally that Wideman plays good defense, he is only saying that Yandle plays defense on par with Wideman.

    Since they are similar defensively, he is raising a question as to how Yandle will be welcomed in Boston given our very primitive fanbase's ability to understand that an offensive defenseman is a specialist, not an all around star who can play in every facet of the game.

    So again, before responding to ignorantly to someone you may or not personally like, try reading the entire thread. There are a lot of big words but you will manage... maybe
    maybe you should re-read EXACTLY what I said.. because what you said is literally exactly what I said. So before calling someone out, you might want to read what they're saying. I said Yandle was ALMOST as bad as Wideman defensively, which is exactly what you said. So again, I have no need to even read this full post because the basis of it is nonsense. Seguin was arguing that Wideman wasn't bad defensively. So here this one is on me, showing in fact it was ME who said he was almost as bad as Wideman to show how he'd be received here. Thanks for agreeing with me.

    Quote Originally Posted by homie564 View Post
    Yandle's really overrated. I've been saying this for some time now. His defense is like REALLY bad. It's almost Wideman bad, not as bad, but pretty close.
    This one is for you Shelfer.
    Last edited by homie564; 09-08-2012 at 11:04 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shaiza90 View Post
    Larsson's improvement and development happened over the course of the season. Get back to me after you check their ice times in the playoffs and how much each team had to depend on the respective players.

    Yandle is ultimately expendable because Ekman-Larsson developed into a top pairing guy.
    get back to you? i was never responding to you
    I know Larsson had a lot of playoff time, i watch the games i don't have to check
    going back to what i said,
    If Yandles D was bad do you think he would be in a starting line up with a 20 year old learning to develop? from the start of the season
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    In fact, I just realized I agreed with literally everything Seguin said on page one in a post I didn't read. I'm in the group saying Yandle is not a good move to Boston. Jesus, you guys love to start arguments for no reason.


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    Gotta love how posts start off ok... but then end up becoming a giant pissing contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin13697 View Post
    get back to you? i was never responding to you
    I know Larsson had a lot of playoff time, i watch the games i don't have to check
    going back to what i said,
    If Yandles D was bad do you think he would be in a starting line up with a 20 year old learning to develop? from the start of the season
    You just got back to me.

    Anyhow, I'm not here to rip apart Yandle's defense. He's definitely not a go-to guy anymore for key situations. His offensive skills are off the charts and that could be the thing that is attractive. He also isn't bad to a point where coaches would eliminate from him a starting lineup. Come on now.

    But his salary for what he brings doesn't make sense, to me at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspa View Post
    Gotta love how posts start off ok... but then end up becoming a giant pissing contest.
    The thing is, there are usually some posters on here that other posters just don't like, thus the other posters make the mistake of not taking any of their posts seriously. I've got a few of those too, everyone does just no one admits it. I admit I can be an ******* lol, so there's probably quite a few more than just Shelfer, you just learn to live with it, and step down if you're truly wrong.


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    And a lot of people here know this, I was open to the idea of Wideman coming back. The problem with Wideman is clear, it's his inconsistency. Obviously many players are inconsistent, but Wideman's inconsistency can go to a point where it hurts the team BIG. Coaches clearly see what he CAN bring to the table, but the confidence that he will do it consistently night in and night out aren't there. And if he doesn't bring it on a certain night, it's going to be a long night for his team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaiza90 View Post
    You just got back to me.

    Anyhow, I'm not here to rip apart Yandle's defense. He's definitely not a go-to guy anymore for key situations. His offensive skills are off the charts and that could be the thing that is attractive. He also isn't bad to a point where coaches would eliminate from him a starting lineup. Come on now.

    But his salary for what he brings doesn't make sense, to me at least.
    I wouldn't say that either, but then again, Wideman isn't that bad either. It's not like I'm calling the guy M.A Bergeron lol. I'd like to add Yandle, he's what the Bruins need, but some fans just don't like a player if he can't bring everything. Yandle is a guy who is absolutely gifted offensively, and can QB a power play (he's much more effective on the PP offensively, but that's a whole other story), however, his defensive talent is just not what teams would expect from a top paring defenseman, he doesn't have that natural defensive talent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspa:23568415
    Gotta love how posts start off ok... but then end up becoming a giant pissing contest.
    Dude give it a rest. You don't contribute a f***ing thing other than criticisms of the way people post on here lately. It be nice to come in, not contribute anything, than act like you are above everyone.

    Let us not forget your constant statements that would spark a conversation to which we oblige, only for you to go on the immediate defensive and a big post about how you don't have to explain yourself.

    You are right, you don't have to explain yourself but Jesus at least stick around to defend your posts once in a while. I don't care about who you are as a person. Hell I bet you are a good guy.

    I just hate seeing someone with actual knowledge of the game throw that away because he doesn't know how to handle being disagreed with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Top Shelfer View Post
    Dude give it a rest. You don't contribute a f***ing thing other than criticisms of the way people post on here lately. It be nice to come in, not contribute anything, than act like you are above everyone.

    Let us not forget your constant statements that would spark a conversation to which we oblige, only for you to go on the immediate defensive and a big post about how you don't have to explain yourself.

    You are right, you don't have to explain yourself but Jesus at least stick around to defend your posts once in a while. I don't care about who you are as a person. Hell I bet you are a good guy.

    I just hate seeing someone with actual knowledge of the game throw that away because he doesn't know how to handle being disagreed with.
    nvm. just realized you quoted Kaspa.


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    Quote Originally Posted by homie564:23568447
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspa View Post
    Gotta love how posts start off ok... but then end up becoming a giant pissing contest.
    The thing is, there are usually some posters on here that other posters just don't like, thus the other posters make the mistake of not taking any of their posts seriously. I've got a few of those too, everyone does just no one admits it. I admit I can be an ******* lol, so there's probably quite a few more than just Shelfer, you just learn to live with it, and step down if you're truly wrong.
    Yeah dude I'm terrible. Just accuse me of doing the same thing pretty much every single one of you do to Seguin when he posts (posts that's are %99 of the time accurate)

    Why don't you ask Shaiza, Neely, Seguin, or anyone else on the forums how rude I am. Or anyone that has participating in one of our games on the site. I treat everyone I can with respect.

    I also have sent messages to guys who aren't respected to keep posting and their contributions are just as valuable as the seasoned guys.

    So don't make me out to a bad guy because I was defending someone who catches **** for knowing what he's talking about. If I was wrong I will apologize, because I am big enough too.

    But no, I'm just the bad guy. I guess you will just have to live with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Top Shelfer View Post
    So I am not confused as to what you mean, are you suggesting that every team Wideman has been on, did not possess good enough penalty killing defenseman on their roster and this is what caused Wideman to play on the PK? This is how I am interpreting this so if I am wrong please say so.

    If you are in fact suggesting that the teams Wideman has played for made him kill penalties because of the lack of "anyone better" than that is complete and utter bull****

    St. Louis: Bryce Salvador, Barrett Jackman, Eric Brewer

    Boston: Zdeno Chara, Aaron Ward, Andrew Ference, Mark Stuart, Dennis Seidenberg

    Florida: Mike Weaver, Jason Garrison... **** it you can have Florida

    Washington: Scott Hannan, John Carlson, Jeff Schultz, Karl Alzner, Mike Green. (what is remarkable about Washington that year was that every defenseman on the roster averaged the same amount of SHTOI per game)

    He is now heading to Calgary where they have plenty of Penalty Killing defensemen on their roster. Jay Bouwmeester, Mark Giordano, Chris Butler.

    Wideman has played within the top three in penalty kill time per game on every team accept St Louis, all of which were above average PK's. Maybe Wideman's positioning isn't great, but he is not the disaster on skates everyone makes him out to be
    Sorry I really meant it more as a question and a possible reason why teams used him on the PK

    I was extreme lazy and didnt feel like doing any research. Well done on that aspect and the points

    It just seems like to me anyway he would manage to screw up that one time and make me forget all the good things he did because that one screw up was at a bad time in the game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneManIsNoMan View Post
    Would much rather see something like

    Boychuk + Caron + Pick

    for

    Yandle

    If you bring in Yandle and don't ship anyone out then you have a log jam

    Chara - Yandle
    Seids - Boychuk
    Ference - McQuaid
    Hamilton - Krug
    This would be great, but completely unrealistic. Phoenix will want Krejci + Boychuk for Yandle and a spec/pick probably, which is WAY overpaying on our part. I think Krejci + Caron straight up would be good but who knows if Phoenix likes that. Bottom line: we don't need Yandle so I would definitely be cautious with the price tag, and I could care less if we get him or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonSports96 View Post
    This would be great, but completely unrealistic. Phoenix will want Krejci + Boychuk for Yandle and a spec/pick probably, which is WAY overpaying on our part. I think Krejci + Caron straight up would be good but who knows if Phoenix likes that. Bottom line: we don't need Yandle so I would definitely be cautious with the price tag, and I could care less if we get him or not.
    At that price, no thanks. We don't need another d-man (IMO) and Krejci could be a huge piece in acquiring a scoring winger if the B's move Seguin to center.


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    You need to play Seguin at center first.....but that won't happen with Krejci still being in the line up...

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