6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”
Some jerks never learn.....
This is a pretty good one. Cobb was the much better hitter, there's no doubt about that. Cobb played in the deadball era had a better raw OPS than Mays. Cobb had a .445 wOBA to .409 for Mays. Cobb was also a much better baserunner with a 60.2 BsR to Mays' 32.9. And Mays was a much better fielder with an 18.1 dWAR to Cobb's -10.8. Both bWAR and fWAR give a slight edge to Mays. But given how unreliable I believe defensive metrics are that go back over 100 years, I'm inclined to give the edge to Cobb.
Cobb was in fact a terrible person, but he also had a pretty terrible life. His rookie year his mother murdered his father. And his attitudes on race were hardly unique for someone who grew up in Georgia at the turn of the century. He later softened his views and voiced support for desegregation on multiple occasions.
Last edited by BackyardRounder; 10-24-2012 at 02:34 AM.
I love me some Mays.
Dude started tiring in games and the team had him examined and it was just determined to be exhaustion - because he was playing stickball in the streets with the kids between games lol
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Mays wins because of league quality, not to mention he lost nearly two years serving his country.
considering they played during different times i would say Ty Cobb...he re-invented the way people played the game and during his time there was nobody better than him...IMO i would LOVE to see more trash talkers in the game, it's a great way to get in the other teams head and if that's done huge advantage