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  1. 09-02-2012, 12:01 AM #1
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    Better second-half of their career thus far: Eli or Big Ben?

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...26/eli-manning
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...roethlisberger

    Both guys have been in the NFL for 8 years. In the first 4 years of their career, both won a Superbowl, but Ben probably has the edge in regular season stats, greatly helped by maybe his best statistical season of his career in 2007.

    Onto the last 4 years where both players won their second SB ring.

    Average Eli season from 08-12: 16 games started- 27 TDs: 16 INTs- 4049 Passing Yards- 61.6 Comp%- 89.4 QB Rating

    Average Ben season from 08-12: 14.5 GS- 20 TDs: 11 INTs- 3727 Passing Yards- 62.9 Comp%- 92 QB Rating

    When taking into account regular & postseason success Eli's best season was 2011, Ben's was in 2009. IMO Eli 2011 > Ben 2009.

    The stat's are really close. What do you guys think? These guys will be compared to each other for a looooong time.
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  3. 09-02-2012, 05:52 AM #2
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    Stats without context. Not OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradHolt4CYoung View Post
    The stat's are really close. What do you guys think? These guys will be compared to each other for a looooong time.
    You're right. Their last four years are pretty close...

    Ben Roethlisberger
    1182-1877 (62.97%), 14,906 yards (7.94 Y/A), 81 TDs (4.31%), 46 INT (2.45%), 168 sacks (8.21%), 36 fumbles

    Eli Manning
    1304-2116 (61.62%), 16,194 yards (7.65 Y/A), 108 TDs (5.10%), 65 INT (3.07%), 101 sacks (4.55%), 34 fumbles

    Cmp% - Ben
    Y/A - Ben
    TD% - Eli
    INT% - Ben
    Sack% - Eli
    Fumbles - Eli
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRS172 View Post
    You're right. Their last four years are pretty close...

    Ben Roethlisberger
    1182-1877 (62.97%), 14,906 yards (7.94 Y/A), 81 TDs (4.31%), 46 INT (2.45%), 168 sacks (8.21%), 36 fumbles

    Eli Manning
    1304-2116 (61.62%), 16,194 yards (7.65 Y/A), 108 TDs (5.10%), 65 INT (3.07%), 101 sacks (4.55%), 34 fumbles

    Cmp% - Ben
    Y/A - Ben
    TD% - Eli
    INT% - Ben
    Sack% - Eli
    Fumbles - Eli
    Yeesh, that's a lot of fumbles for both guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FortDetroit View Post
    Yeesh, that's a lot of fumbles for both guys.
    You're right. Their fumble numbers are pretty high compared to other QBs...

    Ryan - 20
    Schaub - 25
    Brees - 26
    Rodgers - 29
    Rivers - 30
    Cutler - 31
    Romo - 36
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    they are close eli by a hair
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    Let's compare their first four years too.
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    Deacon Jones is right there with LT pass rush wise. He was LT before LT existed, the man was an athletic freak think Bruce Irvin
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    Quote Originally Posted by NormSizedMidget View Post
    Let's compare their first four years too.
    Here you go...

    Ben Roethlisberger
    908-1436 (63.23%), 11,673 yards (8.12 Y/A), 84 TDs (5.85%), 54 INT (3.76%), 146 sacks (9.23%), 18 fumbles

    Eli Manning
    987-1805 (54.68%), 11,385 yards (6.31 Y/A), 77 TDs (4.27%), 64 INT (3.54%), 93 sacks (4.90%), 34 fumbles
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    Not as bad as I would have guessed.

    Surprised Eli's TD% was that high. Interesting.


    I've never been a Ben guy anyways. I'd take Eli's style over him all day.
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    Deacon Jones is right there with LT pass rush wise. He was LT before LT existed, the man was an athletic freak think Bruce Irvin
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    Who would I rather have? Eli Manning no question. No off-field issues, and is as durable as a diamond.

    Who has been better? That's a toughie. Got no prob going either way on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krisxsong View Post
    Who would I rather have? Eli Manning no question. No off-field issues, and is as durable as a diamond.

    Who has been better? That's a toughie. Got no prob going either way on this one.
    This is how I feel. More confident in Eli in continuing to get even better, while with Ben I think his best seasons may be behind him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NormSizedMidget View Post
    Not as bad as I would have guessed.

    Surprised Eli's TD% was that high. Interesting.


    I've never been a Ben guy anyways. I'd take Eli's style over him all day.
    Yeah Eli is likely to enjoy the longer career because of his smarter style of play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradHolt4CYoung View Post
    This is how I feel. More confident in Eli in continuing to get even better, while with Ben I think his best seasons may be behind him.
    When's the last time Eli was injured? A dislocated shoulder 4-5 years ago?

    Whereas Ben seems to be injured every year with something new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krisxsong View Post
    Who would I rather have? Eli Manning no question. No off-field issues, and is as durable as a diamond.

    Who has been better? That's a toughie. Got no prob going either way on this one.
    Ben is just so unconventional. That's what bugs me. He's not near as playground as he once was, but still.
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