Raiders Off-Topic Thread

[Wolfe-Raider]

yeah...he makes me sick with envy.
His talent is obscene.
Like I said ,there are some wonderfully talented actors out there.
Huge names that really are passionate about the craft....
and then there is this guy.
When I first saw the trailer, I didnt even recognize him.

In there will be blood, he was terrifying in his autheticity of an obsessed sociopath, there was no "evil" in his actions, just a fever pitched sickness of depravity.

some actors find a role that suits them and make a career out of one film.This guy just takes whatever hes given and brings it to life in a way others simply cannot.
I have no doubt, Lincoln will have the whole world talking about him again.

I agree. His roll as Bill the Butcher had me on the edge of my seat: "At my challenge, by the ancient laws of combat, we are met at this chosen ground, to settle for good and all who holds sway over the five points: us natives, born rightwise to this fine land, or the foreign hordes defiling it" While in the crucible after things snowballed all over the place his 'leave me my name monologue had me in tears. The futility of his position to keep some semblence of dignity or honor after all else was torn from him was heart rending. " Because it is my name! Because I cannot have another in my life! Because I lie and sign myself to lies! Because I am not worth the dust on the feet of them that hang! How may I live without my name? I have given you my soul; leave me my name! In There Will be Blood, his desire to do what he wanted, when he wanted, how he wanted was crazy.


Daniel Day Lewis brings to the table what the author's hope to convey what few actors can.

[Wolfe-Raider]

Agreed. She's fantastic, especially live. Lol, love the way she writhes on her piano bench.

Ever heard of Regina Spektor? If not, you should.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wigqKfLWjvM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMEpaVL_WsU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fczPlmz-Vug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccZuKOTb6ug

-Stork

I know, I never wanted to be a piano bench more in my life than I do watching her sing.

Yeah, I am somewhat familiar with her. Very nice.

[stephkyle7]

admittedly, my exposure to spanish or hispanic music is rather limited. i do like the occasional santana and los lonely boys song though. and shakira, u can never go wrong with shakira.

my spanish is good enough to get the jist of most songs, but i'll be lost in a rapid-fire convo, that's for sure!



.... o my hell, amos!!! she's a true siren if there ever was one. but then again, i'm a big fiona apple fan.

I provided an early clip of shakira from her album "donde estas los ladrones"

Even if you dont understand spanish just listen to how powerful her voice is
this is before she started focusing on "pop" music...
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...PXd0zaPblxIrnQ

[stephkyle7]

It doesnt hurt that shes smokin hot either

[stephkyle7]

oh and I love Dido too.

This song is one of the most haunting songs of the 90s

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...oPINlO9ZxBmavQ

[stephkyle7]

Im a little all over the place today(again) but anyone who has not seen the Film.."the kite Runner"...rent it.

[Wolfe-Raider]

oh and I love Dido too.

This song is one of the most haunting songs of the 90s

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...oPINlO9ZxBmavQ

Fricking crazy I was going to put her down too, but this song is very special to me. My Son was conceived to this song. His mother and I still drop anything we are doing at the time to listen, perhaps sway a little to the melody, and we are long divorced. Friends though. Very special, I introduced Tori and Dido to my ex. She loves 'em too.

[BlackWidow]

BG since you hate Christmas music you'll love this. I laugh so hard every time.

http://youtu.be/iq10bz3PxyY

[stephkyle7]

Fricking crazy I was going to put her down too, but this song is very special to me. My Son was conceived to this song. His mother and I still drop anything we are doing at the time to listen, perhaps sway a little to the melody, and we are long divorced. Friends though. Very special, I introduced Tori and Dido to my ex. She loves 'em too.

when the CD dropped, before "stan", before "rosewell", she played @ the Troubador in Santa Monica Ca.
Its about the size of a large 7/11.
standing room only, 1st come first serve.
I was so close to the stage , that at one point she did a little dance,and I yelled out (in my utter genius) Yeah! Go girl!
and she looked RIGHT AT ME!!(ha, ha) and smiled!

This is one of the reasons I tryed very hard to "discover" bands rather then follow them.
Back in the day when U2 exploded I waited 6 hours in front of a Ticketmaster window to get tickets and they sold out 4 shows in 10 minutes or something stupid like that...never again(lol).

I would search the concert listings in the backpages of the LA times Calender section and pick out group names that sounded interetsing and were playing at the local venues where you could get in for 10 bucks and go see shows at random, or that someone recommended.

I saw the Red hot chili peppers that way when they first started...they were TERRIBLE!(LOL).

[Snake Plissken]

wow, eclectic mix of groups.
I enjoy lesser known acts more.
U2 is one of the 10 greatest Rock bands in history.
I prefer their earlier stuff.

Storks stuff is more dated but also good.
when discussing NMusic ,I find it helpful to isolate genre..You cant compare eras and styles effectively.

in the 70s, I feel that the Eagles where very influential,The Early Chicago stuff,
Boston really set a standard and created a unique sound.
Some of the more popular acts I appreciated but sought out lesser known.

Ritchie Blackmores Rainbow from the 70s is a group stork might have heard of but until you hear this:

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...f33vNjDI_udc3w

Ronnie James Dio, was the lead singer at this time, Blackmore of smoke on the water(deep purple) fame is the guitarist and the other two artists are familiar names.
This song is one of those JAMS that take up almost the entire side of an album.

Another very interesting group of the era was ambrosia.
This american progressive rock trio was out of Los angeles and the most inetersting facet of their talents was the ability to perform R &B inspired ballads.They were progressive rock, but are known for these very Mo town sounding hits that led people to be surprised when they discovered they were white(lol)

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...mbeZNAOfoqiLGA

in the 80s,
I enjoyed a wide range of artists.
in the metal genre,this is one of my favorite songs:
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...VswToZ7296gVSw

in progressive, My favorite group was Triumph.
In alternative another amazing group was the Stone Roses,I enjoyed The Jesus and MaryChain as well, But New Order was the best IMO.

this is my newest favorite

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...SSFin9RUxvkdDw

Finally something we see eye to eye on!

The Edge is vastly underrated. I rate him 3rd behind Jimmi Hendrix and Eric Clapton as a guitarist. Way high by contemporary standards but I have always been a big fan of his sound. I own a Fender Telecaster in large part because of the Edge.

I have been a huge U2 fan since they hit the mainstream. Under the Blood Red Sky and The Joshua Tree were great. I am ok with their newer stuff but their best work was the early stuff IMHO.

[stephkyle7]

I have a close frined who fancys himself a music aficianado who obstitnantly stated over and over he didnt like the Beatles.

I honestly cant take people seriously when they say things like that.
After intense debate, I was able to extract the fact that the "Beatles" TV series was (in his opinion) such a sell out that he was disgusted with them.

What does that have to do with the Music? I countered.
That is the same thing i say to U2 haters.

You can argue some of the earliest stuff wasnt focused, you can say Joshua Tree was the hight of comercilaism in 80s Alt Rock, You can say that the ZooTV and attempts to blend electronica into there sound wasnt very successful...But when you look at a band that has produced musically gold for 30 years...and still going...and in their 50s can put out a disc like How to dismantle.... is amazing.

New years day is one of the greatest songs ever as far as Im concerned. Its still as fresh and raw today as it was 30 years ago.

Two hearts beat as one,the Unforgettable fire,Red hill mining town,Running to stand still, Kite,....just great.

Im not a HUGE beattles fan, just like Im not a Huge beach boys fan, but if you appreciate song writing and talent, I dont see how you can say..."I dont like them."

U2 is right there too.

[Snake Plissken]

With or without You would have been one of the most epic guitar solos ever had Bono decided not to sing the lyrics.

I like the Beetles.

[chipurmunki]

dio, deep purple, black sabbath, pink floyd...

i gotta say, my respect for a lot of y'all has just increased ten-fold. at least.

[BlackWidow]

^------- strictly 90s rock

Pink Floyd makes my skin crawl. I've actually had panic attacks to their songs they freak me out that much.

U2... I'll pass lol

[stephkyle7]

^ thats funny you say that, i would get really loaded and watch the wall, and one afternoon, i was sleeping off a vodka bender and I was having a Lucid dream, where my dream was fading in and out in real time and took on the landscape of the room i was actually in(are you with me?)

so Im lying in the bed,in a darkened room, and when i open my eyes what I see is idententical to the dream, but when I close my eyes shadows start to apear in the corners of the darkened room,silouhettes of figures silently standing in the dark watching me sleep.
They were all shadowy and black but becasue it was a dream state they had some ephemeral quality which I associated with the rag doll "pink" from the movie.


I got up and broke the Goddamn Videotape, turned on the lights and suffered through the hangover in a chair(lol)!!!
sorry for bumping links but chipurmonki, if you lik DIO, youve got to hear this cut from Rainbow:
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...eJOeqPXo8TqaTA

This is a little known track called "the gates of babylon"
its from 1975 if Im not mistaken, Id have to pull all my vinyl or open another window(lol)
but this is a live recording and the skill of Blackmores musicianship and Dio s voice really started the whole genre of gothic/mystical rock that sprang up...this IMO is better then anything he did with sabbath or solo.


@BW...90s huh....try this one:

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...y0oQdfdDm0AlbA