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View Poll Results: Who would you rather have for the remainder of their contract?

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  • D. Uggla

    5 71.43%
  • B. Phillips

    2 28.57%
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    Who would you rather have? B. Phillips or D. Uggla?

    For the 2014 season AND for the remainder of each contract

    2013
    DU - .179/.309/.362 - .303 wOBA, 91 wRC+, -19 DRS
    BP - .261/.310/.396 - .307 wOBA, 91 wRC+, 1 DRS

    2011-2013
    DU - .213/.323/.404 - .322 wOBA, 103 wRC+ -28 DRS, 1839 PA
    BP - .281/.328/.428 - .329 wOBA, 105 wRC+, 18 DRS, 1964 PA

    Uggla is entering his age 34 season
    Phillips is entering his age 33 season

    Contracts owed

    Uggla - 14:$13M, 15:$13M
    Phillips - 14:$11M, 15:$12M, 16:$13M, 17:$14M

    Uggla is owed $26 million over the next two seasons
    Phillips is owed $50 million over the next four seasons

    You have to take the player for the remainder of their contract
    Last edited by Jeffy25; 10-24-2013 at 09:33 AM.

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    Both players are bad at this point, I think Phillips is more likely to improve in 2014, but both are owed so much, that I would rather have the lesser of the two bad contracts to deal with on my books and turn the roster back over.

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    Uggla, I can be rid of him in less time for less money.

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    Who would you rather have? B. Phillips or D. Uggla?

    B Phillips in a vacuum. Uggla with the 2 contracts


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    I was told I would be the only one who would pick Uggla

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    For the 2014 season AND for the remainder of each contract

    2013
    DU - .179/.309/.362 - .303 wOBA, 91 wRC+, -19 DRS
    BP - .261/.310/.396 - .307 wOBA, 91 wRC+, 1 DRS

    2011-2013
    DU - .213/.323/.404 - .322 wOBA, 103 wRC+ -28 DRS, 1839 PA
    BP - .281/.328/.428 - .329 wOBA, 105 wRC+, 18 DRS, 1964 PA

    Uggla is entering his age 34 season
    Phillips is entering his age 33 season

    Contracts owed

    Uggla - 14:$13M, 15:$13M
    Phillips - 14:$11M, 15:$12M, 16:$13M, 17:$14M

    Uggla is owed $26 million over the next two seasons
    Phillips is owed $50 million over the next four seasons

    You have to take the player for the remainder of their contract
    It'd depend a bit of the makeup of my team, but we can still see which is the better contract.

    Clay Davenport does projections on his site, and one of the cooler features is that he does projections for 6 seasons into the future.

    Uggla's projections are:
    2014 19 runs
    2015 21 runs

    He's projected for 40 runs at a cost of $26 million. If you have Uggla you are paying about $6.5 million for each 10 runs.

    Phillips' projections are:
    2014 24 runs
    2015 22 runs
    2016 19 runs
    2017 18 runs

    He's projected for 83 runs at a cost of $50 million. If you have Phillips you are paying about $6 million for each 10 runs.

    Based on that, Phillips' deal is slightly better.


    But, since neither deal is an exceptional value I could probably sign a free agent second baseman for less. For that reason, I would prefer to be out from under the contract sooner rather than later so I'd take Uggla's contract.

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    I take uggla only by default. If I'm only picking for one season I take Brandon Phillips, but his contract is bad
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    It depends on the team. If the team is competing now you take phillips clearly the better player. If the team is not competing now take old Ugly pants.

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    I'd take Phillips for the Jays. Not my money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
    I'd take Phillips for the Jays. Not my money.
    Its none of our money. If it was your money, who would you take?
    You have no idea how excited I am right now.


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    Yes, please tell me again how you guys would take Uggla over Phillips ....

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    Tell me again how 2 weeks is a big enough sample size to tell us anything of value.
    You have no idea how excited I am right now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mudvayne387 View Post
    Yes, please tell me again how you guys would take Uggla over Phillips ....
    At this very moment, neither is hitting worth a lick, so I don't see your point.

    At least Uggla is owed less money and for less time, allowing the Braves to turn the roster over sooner with his contract.


    Since neither player is of enough positive value, it's better to be rid of the bad contract sooner, and you can do that with Uggla's contract, even if he is a slightly worse player.

    Braves are done with Uggla after next season, the Reds will be carrying Phillips two more years after that.
    Last edited by Jeffy25; 04-16-2014 at 02:57 PM.

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