PK Subban

[CTdolfan]

I dont know if this has been menioned or not, if it has i appologize, but i think it would be awesome to sign pk Subban to an offer sheet, the Habs only offered 2 years 2.5 million if we come in at 3/4 at 3/3.3 million per (i believe at 3.4 draft pick compensation would increase from a second rounder to a 1st and 3rd)? i know we are pretty deep with NHL ready defenseman, and i know for the most part we hate subban, but i feel like he is their marchand, if hes on your team you love him, bring him in tell him to reign in the diving bull ****, and you have a phyisical young puck moving blueliner. Just a thought

[abourne13]

Although I think it would be interesting to add him to the roster, I think Montreal will match just about anything that is thrown at them. Especially something like 3.3 mil per year. But it would be nice to piss off a whole bunch of Habs fans by just getting him to sign an offer sheet

[2bleedB&G]

Hey something new to talk about!!!

I wouldn't for a simple reason Seguin

Speaking about Seguin anybody think it would be a smart idea sigining him to a long term extention now before the new CBA restricks everything?

[Seguin]

If Montreal was going to offer sheet one of our guys, they're going to offer sheet them. Us sending an offer sheet Subbans way wouldn't really change anything.

I wouldn't do it anyway. Offer sheets just aren't my cup of tea, I'm not willing to overpay Subban AND give up picks in the process

[2bleedB&G]

If Montreal was going to offer sheet one of our guys, they're going to offer sheet them. Us sending an offer sheet Subbans way wouldn't really change anything.

I wouldn't do it anyway. Offer sheets just aren't my cup of tea, I'm not willing to overpay Subban AND give up picks in the process

I'm guessing you never played the game of Risk before? They may have an unwritten rule with each other. But Montreal has a lot of money and I wouldn't want to get on their bad side

[kevin13697]

we already have a great D core
i wouldn't mind having him but i don't think we need to over value him or in other words over pay him lol
Bobby Ryan should be Very interesting to the Bruins right now and be their main focus

[2bleedB&G]

we already have a great D core
i wouldn't mind having him but i don't think we need to over value him or in other words over pay him lol
Bobby Ryan should be Very interesting to the Bruins right now and be their main focus

So he could come here and score 20 goals? We got Horton back. With him in the line up that changes a lot offensivly. We also have nothing to trade for him

Krejci for him is basically a wash and PC seems to favor centers over wingers

[homie564]

we already have a great D core
i wouldn't mind having him but i don't think we need to over value him or in other words over pay him lol
Bobby Ryan should be Very interesting to the Bruins right now and be their main focus

absolutely... defensively.....



Our Offensive defense is pretty horrendous.

[Celts22]

Not to mention we only have $277,857 in cap space...

[The Top Shelfer]

I'm guessing you never played the game of Risk before? They may have an unwritten rule with each other. But Montreal has a lot of money and I wouldn't want to get on their bad side

We don't know how the new CBA is going to pan out salary cap wise but if it stays the same as it was last season ($64 mill), the Canadiens will only have about $8 million in cap going into the next off-season not including PK Subban's new deal.

If they re-sign Subban to a $4 million plus deal, which is expected, they will only have about $4 million in cap to re-sign both Max Pacioretty and David Desharnais. This is also not including Alex Galchenyuk's entry level deal which will likely carry a $3+ million cap hit.

The Canadiens have to make serious moves to remain their young core next season and an offer sheet to Subban could potentially force their hand organizationally.

With Bloated contracts with NTC's for players like Brian Gionta, Tomas Plekanec, Erik Cole, Scott Gomez, the often injured Andrei Markov, and so on, this is an organization in dire straights.

My point here is that that Montreal Canadiens may have money, but they don't have the cap and in this instance, that is all that matters.

[2bleedB&G]

We don't know how the new CBA is going to pan out salary cap wise but if it stays the same as it was last season ($64 mill), the Canadiens will only have about $8 million in cap going into the next off-season not including PK Subban's new deal.

If they re-sign Subban to a $4 million plus deal, which is expected, they will only have about $4 million in cap to re-sign both Max Pacioretty and David Desharnais. This is also not including Alex Galchenyuk's entry level deal which will likely carry a $3+ million cap hit.

The Canadiens have to make serious moves to remain their young core next season and an offer sheet to Subban could potentially force their hand organizationally.

With Bloated contracts with NTC's for players like Brian Gionta, Tomas Plekanec, Erik Cole, Scott Gomez, the often injured Andrei Markov, and so on, this is an organization in dire straights.

My point here is that that Montreal Canadiens may have money, but they don't have the cap and in this instance, that is all that matters.

Gomez can be buried in the minors and so can Kaberle that free's up alot of money

I think for a team that needs a young forward Seguin could fit in nicely....I just don't want to piss anybody off

[The Top Shelfer]

Gomez can be buried in the minors and so can Kaberle that free's up alot of money

I think for a team that needs a young forward Seguin could fit in nicely....I just don't want to piss anybody off

Do you really think the owner of the Canadiens, regardless of how wealthy he is, is going to want to eat those contracts in the minors? Some of these suggestion truly baffle.

I mean sure it seems like an easy fix, but you would be pretty hard pressed to convince any owner ever to eat that much money. Some people really need to understand the business aspect of these things.

For the hell of it I calculated what amount of space the Canadiens would have should them dump these players in the Minors. It would leave them with about $20 million before the Galchenyuk and Subban contracts are added. I expect Subban to go for $4+ million. That contract along with Galchenyuk's leaves the Canadiens with about $12 million.

That is twelve million to resign Desharnais, Pacioretty, a back-up goaltender, and a forward.

It may fit under the cap, but it just does and it is too tight for any comfort or other potential moves. Now to the biggest aspect of this situation. Under your "plan" the Owner is now paying Gomez and Kaberle in the minors and Pacioretty, Desharnais, a new forward, and a back-up goaltender. That is double the amount of money (significant losses as far as business is concerned) just by your plan alone.

Good luck convincing an owner to buy into that garbage. This is why it hasn't been done yet as far as Gomez is concerned.

Oh and another thing; what if the new CBA protects against burying players with that big of a hit it the minors? What is your plan then? The Canadiens have to do some serious wheeling and dealing to figure this situation out and it is not as simple as dumping to players in the AHL

[Seguin]

Agreed 100% Shelfer

[CTdolfan]

Not to mention we only have $277,857 in cap space...

we can put SAVY on LTIR

My thought process was that this would address 2 out of our 3 biggest holes, a puck moving defenseman and someone who can help on the PP, i know our core of D is good, but if you have an opportunity to sign a young puck moving defenseman why not take a shot, I think this off season showed just how valuable good defensemen are in this league, plus worst case you piss off the Habs and make them have to scramble to figure out their books in the 7 day offer sheet window.

[Shaiza]

Do you really think the owner of the Canadiens, regardless of how wealthy he is, is going to want to eat those contracts in the minors? Some of these suggestion truly baffle.

I mean sure it seems like an easy fix, but you would be pretty hard pressed to convince any owner ever to eat that much money. Some people really need to understand the business aspect of these things.

For the hell of it I calculated what amount of space the Canadiens would have should them dump these players in the Minors. It would leave them with about $20 million before the Galchenyuk and Subban contracts are added. I expect Subban to go for $4+ million. That contract along with Galchenyuk's leaves the Canadiens with about $12 million.

That is twelve million to resign Desharnais, Pacioretty, a back-up goaltender, and a forward.

It may fit under the cap, but it just does and it is too tight for any comfort or other potential moves. Now to the biggest aspect of this situation. Under your "plan" the Owner is now paying Gomez and Kaberle in the minors and Pacioretty, Desharnais, a new forward, and a back-up goaltender. That is double the amount of money (significant losses as far as business is concerned) just by your plan alone.

Good luck convincing an owner to buy into that garbage. This is why it hasn't been done yet as far as Gomez is concerned.

Oh and another thing; what if the new CBA protects against burying players with that big of a hit it the minors? What is your plan then? The Canadiens have to do some serious wheeling and dealing to figure this situation out and it is not as simple as dumping to players in the AHL

Well done.