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    Best stat to judge an offensive player..

    Ok, I know it's best to use several stats to get the full picture, I understand this. However, which stat gives us the most clear picture?

    Question #2. I generally use wOBP, RC+ and oWAR. Are there better ways to judge a hitter (Better stats)?

    I love wOBP, but is there a simmilar stat that is park adjusted??

    Sorry if I have asked a ton of questions, It's hard to keep up with the times, just a yr and a 1/2 ago I thought OPS+ was the best stat around

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    wOBA is my personal favorite. But you always have to take into consideration sample size. Always.

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    Personally, I've always liked runs produced (Runs scored + RBI - home runs). Simple, old-school, but very telling.

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    I like wOBA too. I also like SLG%. Even though it doesnt show the FULL potential of the hitter, i still like it.

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    wOBA and wRC+

    That's all you really need if you are comparing two players.

    But if you are not comparing two players, then you need a ton more information to get an accurate answer.
    To those that do not know mathematics it is difficult to get across a feeling as to the beauty, the deepest beauty of baseball. If you want to learn about baseball, to appreciate baseball, it is necessary to understand the language she speaks.

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    Depends on what your looking for in terms of offense. I would say both TAv and wOBA are the two most prevalent stats I use when determining a player's offensive ability.

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    wOBA and wRC+ are my go to stats.

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    wOBA is my personal favorite, but I'm also a fan of tAV

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    wOBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bos_Sports4Life View Post
    Ok, I know it's best to use several stats to get the full picture, I understand this. However, which stat gives us the most clear picture?

    Question #2. I generally use wOBP, RC+ and oWAR. Are there better ways to judge a hitter (Better stats)?

    I love wOBP, but is there a simmilar stat that is park adjusted??

    Sorry if I have asked a ton of questions, It's hard to keep up with the times, just a yr and a 1/2 ago I thought OPS+ was the best stat around
    wRC+ is park adjusted, that plus wOBA are the best to use when comparing two players (like jeffy said)

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    Can anyone explain wRC+ to me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superdude901 View Post
    Can anyone explain wRC+ to me?
    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/what-is-wrc/

    You can follow links in link
    To those that do not know mathematics it is difficult to get across a feeling as to the beauty, the deepest beauty of baseball. If you want to learn about baseball, to appreciate baseball, it is necessary to understand the language she speaks.

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    I think you have to use a combination of wRC+ and wOBA.

    wRC+ accounts for sample size in a way and wOBA gives you the rate of efficiency.

    Either alone is lacking, IMO, but together paints an accurate picture.
    In reference to an exhibition game hosted by Under Armour in which Will Barton scored 72 points:

    Quote Originally Posted by KnickaBocka.44 View Post
    I'm more impressed by the fact that they were able to play long enough so he could score that much. These games are usually ended prematurely by fans stampeding the court in a crazeafter an obvious infringement of rules was passed off as a legitimate move, all the while making hand gestures and proclaiming "Game Over! Don't do 'em like that! Aw!"

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    wOBA >>>

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    wOBA and wRC+ are the two i generally use when comparing two different players. tVA is handy to use from time to time also.

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