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    More from the Trade Winds: it would surprise no one if JJ Redick were moved before the February trade deadline, but there's no urgency on the part of the Magic for several reasons, according to a source. One: after a rough 5-10 start, Orlando has gone 6-3, a burst not coincidentally launched by a soul-satisfying win over former teammate Dwight Howard and the Lakers. If Redick is moved, it will be for a younger talent and/or a draft pick and the Magic wouldn't mind staying competitive for as long as they can this season. Two: as of right now, the potential suitors aren't anywhere near making their best offer. The likeliest trade partners: Chicago, Memphis, Minnesota, Milwaukee, Utah. The Bulls were interested in Redick as a FA and Memphis supposedly expressed recent interest. I haven't heard directly that Minnesota, Milwaukee and Utah have talked to Orlando but Redick fits their systems and/or fills a need.
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    I don't love Redick on this team. Yea he's a good shooter, but he really doesn't improve the team all that much. Sure I'd take Redick for a garbage player, but they aren't going to want that. I just don't see a fit.

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    i think the magic want expirings n picks if thats the case maybe we could swing Sam for him since he's expiring and not happy here? he'd shore us up at the guard position in case of another injury he'd be nice to go with the 2nd unit
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    our shooters 1-3 would be sick would also like to see harris get min at the 3 n 4 in there
    This thread right here is why i stay out of the nba main forum on psd lol
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    Cousins Benched by Coach in Kings Loss

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    The DeMarcus Cousins drama continues.

    Kings coach Keith Smart decided to leave Cousins in the locker room after halftime of Sacramento’s 97-85 loss to the Los Angeles Clippers on Friday night at Staples Center.

    Cousins and Smart had a verbal altercation in the locker room, and it was serious enough for Smart to leave his leading scorer and rebounder there in a game the Kings trailed by 14.


    “It was conduct detrimental to the team and we left it at that,” Smart said without elaborating.

    Smart did not say if Cousins would play Sunday against the Portland Trail Blazers.

    Cousins has already been suspended twice by the NBA. He earned a two-game banishment for leaving the locker room after a game to confront San Antonio television analyst Sean Elliott on Nov. 9.

    via Jason Jones of The Sacramento Bee
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    I see a King's fan already has a trade topic of Cousin heading out. He didn't have any Bucks trade deal though. lol Probably cause he didn't like the last Kings/Bucks trade thread I commented on.

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    Livingston was just waived.

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    Marshon Brooks for Ersan Ilysova

    Marshon for Ersan what can we do to make this trade work.

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    Unless I heard wrong, we didn't want Blatche in return.

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    Not much on the Ersan trade, at least not much fair. Maybe a three team trade
    I may quit being a bucks fan if they would trade for Cousins, he is a child. Cousins is a moron and will never be on a great team because his ego will always hold everyone else on the team down.

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    As we move forward with “Amnesty 2.0,” we will see the fascinating possibilities that the provision brings even as the number of teams and players left dwindles with time. One fun component of the rule is that we know exactly which players are eligible for it and that number can only decrease over time since the players had to have been under contract with the same team before the new CBA. As such, any trades, extensions, or contract expirations thin out the list.

    The other thing to remember is that most of the benefit of using the amnesty provision comes from additional flexibility in terms of the salary cap- the only money savings owners get from using it come from any reduction in luxury tax payments and whatever a “winning” team bids for that player on amnesty waivers.

    Atlanta Hawks

    Players Eligible for amnesty: Al Horford

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: None

    Most likely amnesty decision: Not use it. Since the team traded all of its long-term contracts (except Horford) and potential candidates like Zaza Pachulia’s contracts expire this summer, the only person left for Atlanta to utilize the provision on is Horford. That seems unlikely.

    Boston Celtics

    Players Eligible for amnesty: Paul Pierce, Rajon Rondo, Avery Bradley

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: Paul Pierce

    Most likely amnesty decision: Not use it. After signing five different players to dollar figures over $5 million for 2013-14 this past offseason, the Celtics took all the incentive out of using the amnesty provision on Pierce in 2013.

    Brooklyn Nets- Used amnesty provision on Travis Outlaw (December 15, 2011)

    Charlotte Bobcats

    Players Eligible for amnesty: Tyrus Thomas

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: Tyrus Thomas

    Most likely amnesty decision: Tyrus Thomas in 2014. As of now, the Bobcats do not have enough salary on the books to necessitate making an amnesty move this coming summer. As such, the most likely play is to keep Tyrus until the summer of 2014 when Ben Gordon’s contract is cleared from the ledger. As of now, Charlotte only has players on rookie deals and Brendan Haywood getting money then, so it could be the right time to strike.

    Chicago Bulls

    Players Eligible for amnesty: Carlos Boozer, Luol Deng, Joakim Noah

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: Carlos Boozer

    Most likely amnesty decision: Carlos Boozer in 2014. The decision has become even clearer now, though the TaJ Gibson extension could push the timeline up a little bit if the Bulls are feeling the pressure financially next summer. However, Boozer’s last year comes the same year that Luol Deng becomes a free agent, so a proactive Bulls team could make some FA/trade noise since they have less money on the books.

    Cleveland Cavaliers- Used amnesty provision on Baron Davis (December 14, 2011)

    Dallas Mavericks- Used amnesty provision on Brendan Haywood (July 12, 2012)

    Denver Nuggets- Used amnesty provision on Chris Andersen (July 17, 2012)

    Detroit Pistons

    Players Eligible for amnesty: Charlie Villanueva and Greg Monroe

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: Charlie Villanueva

    Most likely amnesty decision: Charlie Villanueva in 2013. It seemed like a foregone conclusion in 2012 and absolutely has to be done in 2013. I cannot see a tangible benefit to leaving his $8.58 million on the cap for 2013-14.

    Golden State Warriors- Used amnesty provision on Charlie Bell (December 11, 2011)

    Houston Rockets- Used amnesty provision on Luis Scola (July 13, 2012)

    Indiana Pacers- Used amnesty provision on James Posey (December 12, 2011)

    Los Angeles Clippers- Used amnesty provision on Ryan Gomes (July 18, 2012)

    Los Angeles Lakers

    Players Eligible for amnesty: Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Metta World Peace, Steve Blake

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: Metta World Peace, Steve Blake

    Most likely amnesty decision: Metta World Peace in 2013. Even though the Lakers continue to need a quality small forward in the worst way, shedding the final year of Metta’s onerous deal seems like the best play. The addition of Chris Duhon makes Steve Blake a slightly greater possibility, but he still appears moveable via trade and provides fair value to the team.

    Memphis Grizzlies

    Players Eligible for amnesty: Zach Randolph, Rudy Gay, Mike Conley

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: Zach Randolph (in 2014)

    Most likely amnesty decision: Zach Randolph in 2014. Memphis will eventually need to make a decision on what to do with their core. Having Z-Bo, Gay, Conley, and Marc Gasol on the books through 2014-15 likely means that the team has a choice to make in 2014 unless either Randolph or Gay makes it for them by declining their player option. My gut says that new ownership will cut bait on an expensive $16.5 million final year option for Randolph.

    Miami Heat

    Players Eligible for amnesty: Chris Bosh, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem, Joel Anthony

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: Joel Anthony, Udonis Haslem

    Most likely amnesty decision: Joel Anthony in 2014. The reigning champs did not lose a single player from their amnesty list over the past year thanks to roster stability. Mike Miller’s health could end up making him the pick but Joel Anthony’s $3.8M final season stands out since the Heat do not have a veteran shooter locked up for 2014-15 at this time. Look for one of the two of them to be shed then, though.

    Milwaukee Bucks

    Players Eligible for amnesty: Drew Gooden and Larry Sanders

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: Drew Gooden

    Most likely amnesty decision: Drew Gooden in 2013. With Beno Udrih expiring at the end of this season, Drew Gooden’s two remaining years are the only reasonable option left for amnesty purposes. Considering Brandon Jennings will get a major pay raise this summer and the Bucks will need any flexibility they can get whether or not Monta Ellis opts out, look for him to go even though the team stands unlikely to benefit in any way other than cap room.

    Minnesota Timberwolves- Used amnesty provision on Darko Milicic (July 12, 2012)

    New Orleans Hornets

    Players Eligible for amnesty: No one

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: No one

    Most likely amnesty decision: Not use it. By trading all three players eligible for the amnesty provision (Emeka Okafor, Trevor Ariza, and Jarrett Jack), the Hornets became the first team to be assured not to use it this time around.

    New York Knicks- Used amnesty provision on Chauncey Billups (December 10, 2011)

    Oklahoma City Thunder

    Players Eligible for amnesty: Kevin Durant, Kendrick Perkins, Thabo Sefolosha, Nick Collison

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: None

    Most likely amnesty decision: Not use it. We will have to see how Sam Presti handles the Kendrick Perkins situation, but my read is that they will not utilize it after either of the next two seasons. Nick Collison would be a slight chance in 2014 if he were not so popular with the team and management.

    Orlando Magic- Used amnesty provision on Gilbert Arenas (December 9, 2011)

    Philadelphia 76ers- Used amnesty provision on Elton Brand (July 12, 2012)

    Phoenix Suns- Used amnesty provision on Josh Childress (July 16, 2012)

    Portland Trail Blazers- Used amnesty provision on Brandon Roy (December 15, 2011)

    Sacramento Kings

    Players Eligible for amnesty: John Salmons, Francisco Garcia, DeMarcus Cousins

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: John Salmons, Francisco Garcia

    Most likely amnesty decision: John Salmons in 2013. Since Salmons’s deal is only partially guaranteed ($1M) in 2014-15, the Kings would have some flexibility in the 2013 off-season when Tyreke Evans can be extended and Cousins will be one year away if they cut him loose at that point. Interestingly, that low buyout could also make Garcia the choice if management sees the talent disparity between the two as high enough to warrant the switch.

    San Antonio Spurs

    Players Eligible for amnesty: Tony Parker and Matt Bonner

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: Matt Bonner

    Most likely amnesty decision: Not use it. Bonner’s partially guaranteed 2013-14 salary would be a possibility but appears unlikely at best.

    Toronto Raptors

    Players Eligible for amnesty: Andrea Bargnani, Amir Johnson, Linas Kleiza, Ed Davis

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: Andrea Bargnani, Amir Johnson

    Most likely amnesty decision: Not use it. Utilizing amnesty on Bargnani would be too big an admission of defeat for management, though theoretically a change at the top coupled with more bad play could change the equation sufficiently to put Il Mago on the amnesty line.

    Utah Jazz

    Players Eligible for amnesty: Derrick Favors

    Reasonable candidates for amnesty: None

    Most likely amnesty decision: Not use it. With only young buck Derrick Favors left as eligible to be amnestied, every conceivable sign points to the Jazz joining the Hornets in August 2013 as teams guaranteed not to use the provision.

    Washington Wizards- Used amnesty provision on Andray Blatche (July 17, 2012)
    Shows what teams still have the amnesty clause yet.

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    Sweet. Get Gooden's trash *** out of here.
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    5. Buyers or Sellers: Milwaukee Bucks

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    Highkin: Buyers. Unless they can find a taker for Monta Ellis, which I doubt. I don't think they'll end up moving Brandon Jennings, either, because they want to gauge his value on the open market this summer. But they have a ton of power forwards that they could parlay into an efficient scoring wing who better fits their roster.

    Hopkins: Sellers. The Bucks have a decent team this year. They are currently tied with the Chicago Bulls. However, the difference is that Milwaukee doesn't have Derrick Rose returning to its team. Simply put, the Bucks lack that A-list player who can take them deep into the playoffs. The front office needs to get creative and make the hard trades to bring the team out of its middling doldrums.

    Schmidt: Buyers. The goal has been clear since the 2009-10 season ended -- get back to the playoffs. Milwaukee will stop at nothing to return to the postseason, even if they do so as an eight seed. Don't expect Brandon Jennings or Monta Ellis to go anywhere, despite the low ceiling that this team has in its current structure.

    Soriano: Sellers. It's time for the Bucks to admit that they're not good enough to make a deep playoff run and sell off players to better position themselves for the future. They need a star player and, as a small-market team, they'll need to get that player in the draft.

    Windhorst: Buyers. GM John Hammond has made a lot of big deals in his tenure, he's not afraid to shake things up. The Bucks have an uncertain future with Brandon Jennings and Monta Ellis possibly becoming free agents, but Milwaukee is also exceeding expectations right now and it has a couple of nice expiring contracts in Beno Udrih and Sam Dalembert they could work with.
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    Brandon Jennings: Buy. They’ve hitched their wagon to Jennings and Monta Ellis. It would be as drastic a departure from a plan as I’ve ever seen for the Bucks to move Jennings or Ellis in season. Personally, I’m selling on both, just to get something back for them while they have value and are under contract, but that’s not the current reality for the Bucks.

    Monta Ellis: Buy. He’s had a nice three game stretch and sometimes seems like he’s a better passer than Jennings, crazy as that may sound. He’s potentially in the last year of his contract, which always makes a player a bit more likely to be moved, but it’s hard to believe the Bucks would dump Ellis and make another franchise altering in-season move.

    Ersan Ilyasova: Sell. He’s rebounded a bit over the past month, but Ilyasova is always going to struggle to live up to his lofty contract. Other teams may still have visions of last season dancing in their head and could potentially be talked into Ilyasova at the right price. If Milwaukee could get back some value for its back court, moving Ilyasova wouldn’t be unwise. But the Bucks can hardly afford to lose his shooting (inconsistent as it might be) without getting a 3-point threat back.

    Mike Dunleavy: Buy. Like so many others in the organization, Dunleavy is in the last year of his contract, but that shouldn’t impact his standing too much. He’s crucial to the Bucks playoff hopes as the only reliable shooter Milwaukee has. He’s sure to be a sought after commodity come summer after two fairly healthy and very productive seasons, so it’ll be tough for the Bucks to bring him back. But they’ll live with the loss of Dunleavy over the summer as they keep pushing for a playoff spot this year.

    Larry Sanders: Buy. Duh.

    Luc Mbah a Moute: Buy. So versatile and getting better as a player. He knows his strengths and weaknesses so well and seems like he takes a small step forward every year. He didn’t get much of a chance to work out over the summer thanks to a knee injury, but he still came back a better player. You get the feeling he’s one of the last players Milwaukee would want to part with.

    Ekpe Udoh: Sell. The Bucks are stocked with young big men and while Ekpe is a useful defender and steady rotation player, they could get buy with Ilyasova or Luc Mbah a Moute at the four next to Sanders or Samuel Dalembert, assuming he ever plays again. Udoh has value thanks to an affordable contract and a rare blend of youth and exceptional awareness. He could play the same role in a trade that he did last season – the piece that pushes a deal from “maybe” to “absolutely.”

    Samuel Dalembert: Sell. There’s been little talk about the motivation for Dalembert’s extended stay on the bench, but he sure fits the bill of a player who is very available. A benching by Scott Skiles has done little to stop other teams in the past from inquiring about the likes of Corey Maggette or Stephen Jackson and surely seems like it should get the ball rolling on a potential Dalembert deal.

    John Henson: Buy. He isn’t playing now, but he’s still a big part of the Bucks future. It’s fair to assume the only way he gets dealt is in something major.

    Drew Gooden: Sell. He’s playing a bit more these days, but Gooden’s situation has all of the characteristics of a very available player. Buried deep on a bench. A veteran that can still produce but is overpaid.

    Doron Lamb: Sell. The Bucks moved a guard from Kentucky too early a few years ago and watched Jodie Meeks develop into a 3-point threat they surely could have used this season. Milwaukee courted him over the summer and saw him accept an offer from the Lakers for less money in pursuit of a championship. Moving Lamb may be that same short sighted sort of thinking, but it seems unlikely he’ll ever be more than a role playing guard. That kind of player is replaceable and teams are always looking for young assets in trades. He could very well be a necessary throw in.

    Tobias Harris: Buy. Same as Henson.

    Joel Przybilla: Sell. It seems like he could get dropped any day if the Bucks wanted to pursue an available veteran guard. Przybilla was more insurance than integral coming into this season and it looks like the Bucks got enough development from young players to keep him on the far reaches of the bench.

    Marquis Daniels: Buy. He’s on a deal that is so inexpensive that virtually everything he does is out-producing it. It’s hard to want to get rid of those guys. If the Bucks did make moves, it wouldn’t be a stretch to envision Daniels taking a backseat down the stretch. That’s probably the role he should be in on a really good team at this point.

    Beno Udrih: Buy. He’s made noise about his minutes before and as the third guard in a three guard rotation, he wasn’t seeing all that many before his injury last month. He could get more in the coming weeks. At the very least, it’s tough to picture the Bucks without him, considering how badly Lamb struggled to handle the third guard duties. But his deal is for a good amount of money and he would likely be needed if the Bucks were going to make a run at a big money player.
    http://www.bucksketball.com/2012/12/...gh-the-season/

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    Other that Ellis I pretty much agree with all of this.
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    I disagree with him on a personal level about selling Jennings though. I just see unlimited potential in this kid. What I don't know is whether he wants it enough or not.
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    Bucks just need another reliable scorer added to the team. That would take pressure off of Jennings/Ellis from chucking bad shots all night if there falling or not. Gasol does seem like a win now move that Hammond and Kohl would go for. But Laker fans think they will get a ton in return though. I think they should be happy to get veteran depth from us.

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