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    Post Hawks to seek a sign and trade for Josh Smith

    Atlanta coach Larry Drew is awaiting his fate, but with the Hawks having eight free agents, expect GM Danny Ferry to make wholesale changes. And the Hawks likely won’t allow Josh Smith to walk without compensation. To attract more suitors, the club likely will offer Smith on sign-and-trade deals. However, Smith is seeking the maximum, and interested teams may decrease .
    http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/20...campaign=sm_tw

    I'm sure we will be active yet again on this one. Maybe ends up being a double sign and trade of Jennings and pieces for Smith? I'd toss Moute and Udoh in the deal to clean up salaries incase Smith wants close to max. Moute and Udoh combined next season is like $9M then whatever Jennings gets. Then we amnesty Gooden to still have some capspace to sign others yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MILLERHIGHLIFE View Post
    http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/20...campaign=sm_tw

    I'm sure we will be active yet again on this one. Maybe ends up being a double sign and trade of Jennings and pieces for Smith? I'd toss Moute and Udoh in the deal to clean up salaries incase Smith wants close to max. Moute and Udoh combined next season is like $9M then whatever Jennings gets. Then we amnesty Gooden to still have some capspace to sign others yet.
    Would they want Jennings though? They have Teague who is a RFA and a better point guard. Seems odd to invest that heavily in Jennings to be a 6th man or back up.
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    Well we don't have much else and they did want Sanders or Ellis at the deadline. But Smith wanted to pair up with Ellis and Jennings here. I wouldn't part with Sanders or Henson. Hate to part with a pick. But you know Kohl is win now attitude will probably force a move down the draft with the Hawks. They have #17 and #18 and #47 and #50 draft picks. Maybe #15 and Udoh and Moute for Smith and either of their second rounders? If we got both their second rounds then at draft we have #45,#47,#50. That could be SG/SF Glen Rice JR and PG Seth Curry and SF Rodney Williams.

    Curry, I. Smith
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    J. Smith,Williams
    Ersan,Henson,Gooden
    Sanders,Ayon

    Then we still got the capholds for Jennings,Ellis,Redick yet or waive that and sign other free agents yet. Or have some sign and trades. Possibly go after Tyreke as a combo guard or a Devin Harris or Mo Williams. Or if Pelicans are desperate to salary dump Gordon we could eat his salary. Even though he's a max contract and been not happy or injured or whatever. Then they get a huge TPE. Jarrett Jack would be nice as well.

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    Another way would be to get a third team in the deal then and sign and trade and ship Jennings to third team. Then that team sends players to Hawks. Possibly Gortat? But Suns have Dragic as well at pg unless they have soured on him. Cause been reported during the Bucks Suns game scouts were there checking out Jennings and Ellis. According to per Woelfel. Doesn't make sense to do a sign and trade with Ellis though cause them teams have plenty of cap to just go out and sign him out right. But Jennings is another story since he's RFA we can match all offers. Maybe some team wants to dump and few players and doesn't want to do the waiting game to see if we match the offer within the week waiting period.

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    The only reason to do a sign and trade on an unrestricted free agent is to either give the player more money or an extra year. Josh Smith will not get either so there will be no sign and trade. He will sign somewhere outright. He's in the same boat as Ellis without the option. Its wishful thinking on Atlanta's part. They couldnt get anything at the trade deadline for him when he was under contract. It wont happen.

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    Or sign and trade if that player wants to go to a team that has no cap space. Ellis mentioned Grizzlies would be a place he would like if he doesn't sign with Milwaukee. Guess he was born there or has family there. Zbo would be a nice return but doubt Grizzlies offer him up. Even though Kohl declined a Zbo trade in the past from the Knicks.

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    Grizzlies offered up Conley for Sessions and Alexander in the past. Think Kohl vetoed that one as well. I can imagine how many nice trade the Bucks could of had if Kohl would step back and have no input but has his nose in everything. Yeah he's the owner but doesn't know much.

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    Wish we could get get Deng from Chicago and give them Ellis. Maybe send Jennings and Boozer to Phoenix and get Dragic as well.

    Phoenix
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    -Shannon Brown or someone else

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    -Dragic

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    That trade would then allow Chicago to go after a solid free agent

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    Consider the departure of Doc Rivers Phase II of the Celtics’ slow dismantling, which began last summer with Ray Allen leaving Boston. Phase III will come this week, when Boston must either trade Paul Pierce or decide to buy him out. They have until June 30 to inform Pierce of such a move.

    As for the rebuilding sure to follow the dismantling, that is contingent on what happens with Pierce. If the Celtics can unload Pierce to a team with enough cap space to absorb his salary, they will get a trade exception worth Pierce’s salary, or $15.3 million. And if that happens, the plan is already in place. According to a source, the Celtics have a sign-and-trade offer ready for Atlanta forward Josh Smith that would be the top priority in free agency.

    The Boston Celtics have a sign-and-trade offer prepared for Josh Smith in the event they can move Paul Pierce and make a run at the Hawks forward. (AP Photo)

    NEWS: Rivers' move to Clippers official; Celtics to get 1st-rounder

    Smith has long been connected to Boston in trade rumors, including one that would have sent Pierce to Atlanta in February. His link to the current Celtics dates back to high school, when he played with point guard Rajon Rondo at Oak Hill.

    In order to land Smith, though, the Celtics need to pull off a deal for Pierce that will net them a trade exception. Because teams over the salary cap can’t take on salary without sending back matching salaries, Boston’s options are limited to teams under the cap. That’s why two teams that have been connected to a Pierce deal have been Cleveland and Milwaukee.

    DEVENEY: Cleveland wants veteran upgrade of Pierce or Granger

    But sources told Sporting News that there is some trepidation when it comes to trading for Pierce, because he has let it be known that if he must leave Boston, he wants to play for a contender. He could do that—most likely joining Rivers in Los Angeles—if the Celtics buy him out. But not if he is traded. The Cavaliers, for example, don’t want to trade for Pierce if he does not want to be there.

    A source indicated that any potential Pierce-to-Cleveland deal is, “a long shot.”

    There is some skepticism about Milwaukee’s interest in Pierce, too. The Bucks were close to landing Smith via trade in February, and Smith is willing to go to Milwaukee in free agency. While the Celtics would be able to offer Smith a deal starting at $15 million—the value of the trade exception they’d get for trading Pierce—the Bucks could offer a full max deal, starting at $17.5 million.

    If the Bucks are in a better position to land Smith in free agency, they would not have much incentive to instead take on the 35-year-old Pierce, and help Boston get Smith instead.
    http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/stor...ol-deng-jimmer

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    Josh Smith could move to the Boston Celtics in a sign-and-trade deal once NBA free agency begins, according to Sean Deveney from Sporting News. The Celtics would only be able to bring Smith in if they're able to create a trade exception by moving Paul Pierce, though.

    Despite being in the process of rebuilding, Boston isn't scheduled to have a ton of room for free agent signings this summer. If the Celtics are able to net a trade exception by sending Pierce -- who is owed $15 million if not bought out by the end of the week -- to a team that can take on his salary, however, it'd open more room for the Celtics to trade for a big name like Smith.

    And, according to our friends over at CelticsBlog, the fan base wouldn't mind seeing Smith move to the Celtics:



    Last summer, he joined the Celtics in LA for pre-season workouts, due mainly to his friendship with Rajon Rondo. He's a pogo stick in a bull's body, but the biggest question is whether or not he's a franchise player. His shot selection leaves a little to be desired, but paired with a pass-first PG, that could definitely change in Boston. If KG decides to close out his career in green, he could do wonders tutoring Smoove in the Celtic way.

    Deveney reports that the two teams most likely able and willing to help Boston get this deal done are either the Cleveland Cavaliers or Milwaukee Bucks. It sounds as though Cleveland isn't that big on the deal, though, and Milwaukee might be able to make a play for Smith themselves, too, instead of just helping Boston acquire him.
    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...ade_deal_.html

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    Josh Smith could find himself back in Boston sooner than he thought.

    Smith, who was rumored in talks with the Celtics near the 2012 NBA Trade Deadline, is once again seen as an option for the C's this offseason, according to A. Sherrod Blakely of CSNNE.com.

    Rumors were flying around Celtics camp before Thursday night's draft, and one such rumor had the C's in active talks with the Hawks about acquiring Smith. In return the likely package would include a first-round draft pick, Brandon Bass and likely one other piece.

    Any deal involving Bass would need to involve a sign-and-trade with the talented forward, though.

    Smith could be an excellent supplement on the interior for Kevin Garnett, if the 36-year-old forward does decide to return to the Celtics for another season. Smith is a versatile forward with skills inside as both a shot blocker and rebounder, but also with a decent jump shot and range from about 18 feet out.

    In the 2011-12 season, Smith averaged 18.8 points, 9.6 rebounds and 1.7 blocks per game. Over his eight-year NBA career, Smith has averaged 15.1 points, 7.9 rebounds and 2.2 blocks.


    A. Sherrod Blakely @SherrodbCSN
    #CelticsTalk: #NBA source says any deal involving #Hawks Josh Smith would most likely include sign-and-trade w/Brandon Bass.
    http://nesn.com/2012/06/report-celti...rd-josh-smith/

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    Sports Whispers ‏@SportsWhispers 25 Jun
    #NBA: Teams who are expected to make a run at Josh Smith include the Bucks and Celtics.
    -Twitter

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    Pistons now interested in Josh Smith.

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    With Thomas Robinson unload to clear space for max cap slot for Howard. If Rockets land Howard they will also try and land Josh Smith. Asik being shopped 5 teams asked about Asik. Lin being shopped.

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