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    Has there ever been this few "bad" quarterbacks in the league at one time? If you think about it, there have been plenty years where there were many good QB's but a good share of bad/not going anywhere with this guy types as well. Obviously hind sights 20/20 but let's take a look at all prospective 32 QB's (Broken down by division):

    NFC North:
    Packers - Rodgers: Obviously MVP, if he continues to put up good numbers will be a top 5 all time QB.

    Lions - Stafford: Young guy coming off a GREAT year that was overshadowed by record numbers from Brees and Rodgers. Could have won MVP if he played in a different year.

    Bears - Cutler: Obviously a good quarterback, hasn't had many good weapons but still is definitely not some one you don't want on your team. Almost elite.

    Vikings - Ponder: Sure they went 2-8 under his rookie starts, but compared to any previous rookie year it was definitely above average. Above a 70 rating and 13 TD's in only 10 starts. Likely has a bright future.

    NFC West:
    49ers - Alex Smith: Finally has a same system in a consecutive year, more weapons after a sort of break out season, definitely a good QB. What a turn-around.

    Seahawks - Matt Flynn: Unproven but has had two tremendous starts, I mean this guy holds the Packers record for most TD's and Yards in a game... a team with traditionally good QB's. If he performs under an 80ish rating it would be a surprise.

    Rams - Sam Bradford: Had his sophomore slump but his rookie year was only behind Dan Marino's, you'd have to almost say it was a tie with Manning's.

    Cardinals - Kevin Kolb: Got hurt but didn't look too promising, could say he's around average. From what we've seen when he's played you can't classify him as "bad."

    NFC South:
    Saints - Drew Brees: Obviously a stud, HOFer and Top 3 QB right now.

    Falcons - Matt Ryan: Solid good QB, could easily be bumped up to elite with a little better numbers and a couple of playoff wins.

    Panthers - Cam Newton: The sensation of the NFL right now, I still think Marino's rookie year was better, but definitely a rare talent that's going to perform well in the future. Most likely will be elite in a few years.

    Buccaneers - Josh Freeman: Looked promising his first two years but then had a let down last year. Still young, we will see if he turns it around or ends up becoming a dud.

    NFC East:
    Giants - Eli Manning: Whether or not you think he is elite, the guy's won two Super Bowls and puts up decent numbers, reminds me of Montana. At the least is on the cusp of being elite.

    Cowboys - Tony Romo: Put up great numbers last year, sure he was anti-clutch in a few games, right there with Eli.

    Eagles - Vick: An elite QB, don't let last years numbers fool you, when this guy's healthy, he can be just as good as the best passers in the game, then you have to factor in the speed.

    Redskins - RGIII: Looks very promising, most athletically gifted QB in the game if he can pass in the NFL level. We shall see.

    AFC North
    Steelers - Ben Roethlisberger: 2 Superbowls, good numbers, could be considered elite.

    Ravens - Flacco: Still has alot to prove, hasn't been the best, but hasn't been the worst. Average QB who can easily become above average.

    Bengals - Andy Dalton: In the top 4 all time rookie seasons, lead his team to the playoffs. I see a big sophomore slump here, but if he maintains, he could become a Cutler-ish kind of guy. Looks promising for the future.

    Browns - Colt Mccoy: Didn't throw more INT's than TD's and that's good for Cleveland. In the running for the worst of the league, but put this guy in the 90's and he's about average.

    AFC West:
    Broncos - Peyton Manning: Assuming the injury doesn't make him too worse for ware, he's an elite QB and could be considered the best all time as of now.

    Chiefs - Matt Cassel: Had a let down from his pro bowl year, if he turns it back around he's a pro-bowler. Definitely a good QB.

    Raiders - Carson Palmer: Used to be a perennial pro-bowler, we'll see how an off season helps him with the Raiders, but this guy has seen better days, one of the few "bad" QB's IMO, but could prove me wrong since he has been very good before.

    Chargers - Phillip Rivers: Had a slightly down year but is a perennial pro-bowler. Before last year most people would have thought he's elite, but that number may have gone down now.

    AFC South:
    Colts - Andrew Luck: Most promising prospect since Peyton Manning, has the potential to be one of the best QB's in the league, future looks bright.

    Titans - Matt Hasselbeck: Surprised alot of people last year who had written him off. Is well past his prime but is not a bad QB, though I could see a big down year for him.

    Texans - Matt Shaub: Great QB, almost elite, is in his prime and could see a Superbowl winner here.

    Jaguars - Blaine Gabbert: Really not impressed here, my pick for worst in the league, would just be below average most other years though.

    AFC East:
    Patriots - Tom Brady: Stud, Top 3 QB today, Top 5 all time. Not much needs to be said.

    Dolphins - David Garrard/Matt More: Two average QB's here, though under Joe Philbin and throwing check downs to Reggie Bush could give them numbers to be a good QB.

    Jets - Tebow/Sanchez: This will be a freaking circus. Neither QB is good, except for Gabbert and McCoy, I would take ANYONE else in the league.

    Bills - Fitzpatrick: Started out promising, right now one of the few bad QB's but there's potential here. Could be good one day.

    So in conclusion we have "bad" QB's with McCoy, Gabbert, Sanchez/Tebow. Some not so great with Fitzpatrick, Garrard/Moore, and Kolb. Every other QB is good or has huge potential.
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    Lol the question is who is the worst starting qb
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    Its a passing league (we can thank the rule makers for that).


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    vick elite? no chance
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    I think the rules help but you are correct, the league is loaded with solid QB's.

    I thought we went through a funk years ago where the league had so many mediocre QB's that Vinny Testaverde & Kerry Collins had to hang around.

    IMO, I always blamed the Florida Gators as their QB's were told to underthrow the ball so fast receivers could come back to it. It appeared every NCAA team followed suit and all these QB's that came to the NFL were awful.

    I believe we're over the funk and the league is loaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brodawgs View Post
    Has there ever been this few "bad" quarterbacks in the league at one time? If you think about it, there have been plenty years where there were many good QB's but a good share of bad/not going anywhere with this guy types as well. Obviously hind sights 20/20 but let's take a look at all prospective 32 QB's (Broken down by division):

    NFC North:
    Packers - Rodgers: Obviously MVP, if he continues to put up good numbers will be a top 5 all time QB.

    Lions - Stafford: Young guy coming off a GREAT year that was overshadowed by record numbers from Brees and Rodgers. Could have won MVP if he played in a different year.

    Bears - Cutler: Obviously a good quarterback, hasn't had many good weapons but still is definitely not some one you don't want on your team. Almost elite.

    Vikings - Ponder: Sure they went 2-8 under his rookie starts, but compared to any previous rookie year it was definitely above average. Above a 70 rating and 13 TD's in only 10 starts. Likely has a bright future.

    NFC West:
    49ers - Alex Smith: Finally has a same system in a consecutive year, more weapons after a sort of break out season, definitely a good QB. What a turn-around.

    Seahawks - Matt Flynn: Unproven but has had two tremendous starts, I mean this guy holds the Packers record for most TD's and Yards in a game... a team with traditionally good QB's. If he performs under an 80ish rating it would be a surprise.

    Rams - Sam Bradford: Had his sophomore slump but his rookie year was only behind Dan Marino's, you'd have to almost say it was a tie with Manning's.

    Cardinals - Kevin Kolb: Got hurt but didn't look too promising, could say he's around average. From what we've seen when he's played you can't classify him as "bad."

    NFC South:
    Saints - Drew Brees: Obviously a stud, HOFer and Top 3 QB right now.

    Falcons - Matt Ryan: Solid good QB, could easily be bumped up to elite with a little better numbers and a couple of playoff wins.

    Panthers - Cam Newton: The sensation of the NFL right now, I still think Marino's rookie year was better, but definitely a rare talent that's going to perform well in the future. Most likely will be elite in a few years.

    Buccaneers - Josh Freeman: Looked promising his first two years but then had a let down last year. Still young, we will see if he turns it around or ends up becoming a dud.

    NFC East:
    Giants - Eli Manning: Whether or not you think he is elite, the guy's won two Super Bowls and puts up decent numbers, reminds me of Montana. At the least is on the cusp of being elite.

    Cowboys - Tony Romo: Put up great numbers last year, sure he was anti-clutch in a few games, right there with Eli.

    Eagles - Vick: An elite QB, don't let last years numbers fool you, when this guy's healthy, he can be just as good as the best passers in the game, then you have to factor in the speed.

    Redskins - RGIII: Looks very promising, most athletically gifted QB in the game if he can pass in the NFL level. We shall see.

    AFC North
    Steelers - Ben Roethlisberger: 2 Superbowls, good numbers, could be considered elite.

    Ravens - Flacco: Still has alot to prove, hasn't been the best, but hasn't been the worst. Average QB who can easily become above average.

    Bengals - Andy Dalton: In the top 4 all time rookie seasons, lead his team to the playoffs. I see a big sophomore slump here, but if he maintains, he could become a Cutler-ish kind of guy. Looks promising for the future.

    Browns - Colt Mccoy: Didn't throw more INT's than TD's and that's good for Cleveland. In the running for the worst of the league, but put this guy in the 90's and he's about average.

    AFC West:
    Broncos - Peyton Manning: Assuming the injury doesn't make him too worse for ware, he's an elite QB and could be considered the best all time as of now.

    Chiefs - Matt Cassel: Had a let down from his pro bowl year, if he turns it back around he's a pro-bowler. Definitely a good QB.

    Raiders - Carson Palmer: Used to be a perennial pro-bowler, we'll see how an off season helps him with the Raiders, but this guy has seen better days, one of the few "bad" QB's IMO, but could prove me wrong since he has been very good before.

    Chargers - Phillip Rivers: Had a slightly down year but is a perennial pro-bowler. Before last year most people would have thought he's elite, but that number may have gone down now.

    AFC South:
    Colts - Andrew Luck: Most promising prospect since Peyton Manning, has the potential to be one of the best QB's in the league, future looks bright.

    Titans - Matt Hasselbeck: Surprised alot of people last year who had written him off. Is well past his prime but is not a bad QB, though I could see a big down year for him.

    Texans - Matt Shaub: Great QB, almost elite, is in his prime and could see a Superbowl winner here.

    Jaguars - Blaine Gabbert: Really not impressed here, my pick for worst in the league, would just be below average most other years though.

    AFC East:
    Patriots - Tom Brady: Stud, Top 3 QB today, Top 5 all time. Not much needs to be said.

    Dolphins - David Garrard/Matt More: Two average QB's here, though under Joe Philbin and throwing check downs to Reggie Bush could give them numbers to be a good QB.

    Jets - Tebow/Sanchez: This will be a freaking circus. Neither QB is good, except for Gabbert and McCoy, I would take ANYONE else in the league.

    Bills - Fitzpatrick: Started out promising, right now one of the few bad QB's but there's potential here. Could be good one day.

    So in conclusion we have "bad" QB's with McCoy, Gabbert, Sanchez/Tebow. Some not so great with Fitzpatrick, Garrard/Moore, and Kolb. Every other QB is good or has huge potential.
    Vick is an elite QB an big Ben can be considered.. lol Vick has a long way to go before he can be considered Elite..

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    Vick is elite, and Eli is on the cusp?

    Not so fast my friend.
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    I would actually say there are more below average QB's than I think people give credit to quite honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brodawgs View Post
    Has there ever been this few "bad" quarterbacks in the league at one time? If you think about it, there have been plenty years where there were many good QB's but a good share of bad/not going anywhere with this guy types as well. Obviously hind sights 20/20 but let's take a look at all prospective 32 QB's (Broken down by division):

    ...

    So in conclusion we have "bad" QB's with McCoy, Gabbert, Sanchez/Tebow. Some not so great with Fitzpatrick, Garrard/Moore, and Kolb. Every other QB is good or has huge potential.
    Well, it was a solid write up with the intent of showing the current QBs in a good light. It looks like you put a lot of work into your effort. Well done. You made some good points. That said, 50% of the QBs you listed finished in the bottom 50% of QB ratings. Let’s not overstate below average QB play and call it something it is not.
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