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    Quote Originally Posted by Nips View Post
    wut?
    i said rivers will prove last year was a fluke. he said the chargers will still not be good. i said that has no bearing on how rivers plays or where he is ranked
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    Not sure how people feel about QBR

    1 Aaron Rodgers
    2 Drew Brees
    3 Tom Brady
    4 Tony Romo
    5 Matt Ryan
    6 Matt Schaub
    7 Matthew Stafford
    8 Philip Rivers
    9 Ben Roethlisberger
    10 Michael Vick
    11 Carson Palmer
    12 Matt Hasselbeck
    13 Eli Manning
    14 Jay Cutler
    15 Joe Flacco
    16 Cam Newton
    17 Matt Moore
    18 Ryan Fitzpatrick
    19 Kyle Orton
    20 Matt Cassel
    21 Andy Dalton
    22 Alex Smith
    23 Josh Freeman
    24 Rex Grossman
    25 Colt McCoy
    26 John Skelton
    27 Tarvaris Jackson
    28 Christian Ponder
    29 Kevin Kolb
    30 Mark Sanchez
    31 Sam Bradford
    32 Tim Tebow
    33 Curtis Painter
    34 Blaine Gabbert
    And yes, Brees and Rodgers are both better than Brady right now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zep View Post
    It will become a collectible. Like lawn ornaments of black jockeys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinstripe power View Post
    i said rivers will prove last year was a fluke. he said the chargers will still not be good. i said that has no bearing on how rivers plays or where he is ranked

    It does matter how his team plays

    His OL needs to block, his WR's need to get open

    If they dont, he'll smell like *****

    Ifthey do.. he'll be the Rivers of old

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zep View Post
    Not sure how people feel about QBR



    And yes, Brees and Rodgers are both better than Brady right now.

    Well, I am not sure how ESPN feels about QBR either. If you go to the ESPN site, bring up stats and you will see what is shown in the QB block is passer rating. That is what ESPN uses as a first piece of information to show the sporting public.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics

    If you bring up QB listing with complete stats, it must be there right? Nope! They present QB statistics and don't even include it in their stat line for QBs.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...1/seasontype/2

    So the much touted, be all and end all of QB measures isn't even worthy of being included in a QB stat line by the organization that invented it.

    I think I'll pass.

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    Brees is not better than brady. Im not going to give any reasons except there is no argument.

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    1) Aaron Rodgers
    2) Drew Brees
    3) Tom Brady
    4) Peyton Manning
    5) Ben Roethlisberger
    6) Tony Romo
    7) Eli Manning
    8) Matthew Stafford
    9) Philip Rivers
    10) Jay Cutler
    11) Matt Schaub
    12) Matt Ryan
    13) Joe Flacco
    14) Cam Newton
    15) Michael Vick
    16) Andrew Luck
    17) Robert Griffin III
    18) Sam Bradford
    19) Alex Smith
    20) Matt Cassel
    21) Andy Dalton
    22) Josh Freeman
    23) Jason Campbell
    24) Matt Hasselbeck
    25) Ryan Fitzpatrick
    26) Matt Moore
    27) Carson Palmer
    28) David Garrard
    29) Matt Flynn
    30) Mark Sanchez
    31) Tarvaris jackson
    32) Tim Tebow

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    1) Aaron Rodgers
    2) Tom Brady
    3) Drew Brees
    4) Peyton Manning
    5) Eli Manning
    6) Ben Roethlisberger
    7) Matt Stafford
    8) Matt Ryan
    9) Philip Rivers
    10) Tony Romo
    11) Matt Schaub
    12) Cam Newton
    13) Jay Cutler
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    Funny how Freeman was ranked so high last year at this time by the fantasy fans.


    1) Brady - he still got to the bowl and if not for Eli, he would have two more rings
    2) Rodgers - Aikman like accuracy.
    3) Drew Brees - showed a lot against that 49ers team outside
    4) Peyton Manning (although it should be interesting outside a dome more often)
    5) Eli Manning - some might read a defense as well but none better, especially when the game becomes chaotic, the guy is cool.
    6) Ben Roethlisberger - craziest style ever. Actually welcomes hits, waits for coverage to break down and delivers strikes. Somehow, it works

    the rest

    7) Matt Schuab - maybe a little high but got hurt the year he could have stepped out from Peyton's shadow in that division
    8) Matt Ryan - Matty ice is pretty cool under pressure
    9) Matt Stafford - rule changes have helped this type of QB a lot. He's good but really benefiting from poor defensive opponents, a dome and great receivers.
    10) Tony Romo - always has great receivers and great weapons. Melts in the biggest spots. Why does he claim to play gold, tennis and Bowl so he can get used to pressure situations? Unreal
    11) Philip Rivers - dink, dunk, dink, dunk and feasted of inept defenses out of the West for years. Greatly benefited from all world Tomlinson and Gates. Has a lot to prove
    12) Michael Vick - after check one, he looks at the DL as opposed to safeties. Perhaps the best athlete ever at QB but won't stay healthy b/c he takes too many hits.
    13) Jay Cutler - tough to evaluate a guy that has no OL. I think he's better than people think. Certainly can steal a playoff game from anybody with that arm so long as he's not on his back.

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    What's with all the hardons for Romo?




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    Quote Originally Posted by whooligun View Post
    What's with all the hardons for Romo?
    I hate the cowboys and romo,but his play and stats are pretty good. Plus his ceiling is high and he hasn't hit it. Romo can be easily ranked higher than Ben and Eli is he would have some post season success



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nips View Post
    It does matter how his team plays

    His OL needs to block, his WR's need to get open

    If they dont, he'll smell like *****

    Ifthey do.. he'll be the Rivers of old
    i meant as far as win lose record goes. contrary to waht most people on PSD think, good qb's can play well for bad teams
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikebrez bears/ View Post
    I hate the cowboys and romo,but his play and stats are pretty good. Plus his ceiling is high and he hasn't hit it. Romo can be easily ranked higher than Ben and Eli is he would have some post season success
    I dont understand why everyone is so in love with potential. Yeah, the guy has the tools. Yeah, he could be awesome. But when talking about his career so far, its been nothing but disappointing. Every year you hear about how the Cowboys are contenders, and every year they disappoint. There are always excuses, and he is "unfairly labeled as a choker", but the bottom line is, he hasnt won anything, posted any monster numbers, or done anything at all, other than show flashes of being great. Flashes and promises dont put you in the top ten.




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    2012 Top 32 Quarterbacks

    It's his 100 plus QB rating that people fall in love with.



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    100 plus rating and how many playoff victories?




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