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    Phillies in Serious Trade Talks for Wilton Lopez

    The Phillies may be on the verge of trading for a late-game relief pitcher. Baseball sources say the team is in serious talks with the Houston Astros about acquiring righthander Wilton Lopez.

    Lopez, 29, was 6-3 with a 2.17 ERA in 64 games for the Astros last season. A sinkerballer, he registered excellent control numbers, striking out 54 and walking just eight in 66 1/3 innings. He had 10 saves after taking over as closer when the Astros traded Brett Myers to the White Sox.

    If the Phillies land Lopez, he could set up for closer Jonathan Papelbon. The Phillies have been looking for an eighth-inning setup man and pursued free agent Ryan Madson before he came to an agreement with the Angels.

    Lopez is eligible for salary arbitration for the first time this winter.

    Center field is still the Phillies' No. 1 offseason priority. They remain in serious discussions with free agent B.J. Upton.
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    I want this guy but not for much.
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    Biddle, Morgan + + knowing Amaro

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    Heyman says a trade has been agreed upon.

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    It says "minor leaguers" so whatever that means. Hopefully like Quintana lol

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    Read near major league ready...guessing Valle

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    ^^ Thats too much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruthian View Post
    ^^ Thats too much
    If your referring to Valle, I would disagree. Valle projects to be nothing more than a solid backup catcher. Great defensively, but a very inconsistent, free swinger at the plate. When your BB% drops consistently as you reach the higher levels in the minors, that is a red flag in terms of his ability to be an every day major league player. Plus we have a logjam at catcher so moving Valle for a valuable piece would make sense. He isn't going to be a centerpiece to a bonafide stud trade, but this type of trade makes sense.

    I'd be ok with moving 1 or 2 of: Valle, Hernandez, Schwimmer, Castro, Rosenberg, etc. I would not even entertain the idea of most of our Double A and lower talent for a solid relief pitcher. If I had to guess, it will be 2 prospects from the back end of our Top 30.

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    You're confusing projection with actuated skills.

    Valle projects to be a starter with adequate defense, good power, and an adequate hit tool. What he actually is right now is a rough defender with a poor plate approach.

    It remains to be seen how close Valle can get to his ceiling, but that does seem to be a steep price for a guy like Lopez.

    I would guess it's Schwimer plus another reliever like Diekman or Stutes.
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    i like lopez...he pitched well on an awful team...between errors and poor overall play he did well there
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    Quote Originally Posted by The A Team View Post
    You're confusing projection with actuated skills.

    Valle projects to be a starter with adequate defense, good power, and an adequate hit tool. What he actually is right now is a rough defender with a poor plate approach.

    It remains to be seen how close Valle can get to his ceiling, but that does seem to be a steep price for a guy like Lopez.

    I would guess it's Schwimer plus another reliever like Diekman or Stutes.
    Yeah I used poor phrasing there. As it currently stands, he doesn't look to be much more than a valuable backup. If we want to go on projection alone, we have a more highly regarded C prospect in Tommy Joseph and potential guys like Lino, Rupp, and I believe Ludy (not sure if I'm getting that name correct). Valle seems to be the odd man out to me with Joseph at the same level, so I would be ok using him as a piece in a trade.

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    We do have a logjam of C prospects. Valle is generally considered to be ahead of Joseph at this point, although the skill sets are quite similar.

    Catcher is a hard position to fill and there is no guarantee that any of these guys pan out. It may be best to hang onto them. We should be open to trading from that depth, but not for a middle reliever.
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    Ok absolutely dream scenario here. Don't know what has me in this mood but whatever.

    Trade brown, Worley, Biddle/may, Valle, and some one else for Choo/Cabrera and Masterson (preferably Choo)

    Then trade Lee, Ruf, Asche plus cash for Meyers and Moustakus and Frenchie

    I'd have to look into the KC deal since we'd probably have to add more buuuuuttt...

    C: Chooch
    1b: Howard
    2b: Utley
    SS Rollins
    3b Mouse
    LF: Schierholtz/Frenchie/Mayberry
    Cf: Myers
    RF Choo

    Sp Halladay
    Sp hamels
    Sp Masterson
    Sp Kendrick
    Sp cloyd/FA pick up

    Would be nice. We'd have gotten a lot better and younger and lowered salary immensely.

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    A trade with Cleveland or KC would help needs. Obviously mine are low but working around those would be better than any FA signing

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    No, I mean you are high.

    Also, I don't see why the Phillies would want a left-handed platoon outfielder and an adequate SP (Choo/Masterson).
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