Last edited by jayjay33; 07-16-2012 at 05:17 PM.
What black person, growing up within the black culture, wouldn't know the answers to his ''just asking question'' questions? There has always been issues that blacks hold dear, policing, educations, jobs,breaking racial barriers or seeking justice for racial incidents. Here in chicago, we have been protesting the closing of mental health centers in our area as well as getting more police on the streets. These things don't get national coverage but the protest do occur. Some times we get bitter because our issues get ignored. Then he wonders why we think he is lying about being black.
If that was true, it speaks volumes on his own self- image problems. If he lying, he is a racist, who will lie about anything. Either way, he is a mess-up little puppy.
Last edited by WES445; 07-17-2012 at 12:06 AM.
Well, the results are in. No one could answer my questions. Not surprising. Hyper-sensitivity towards my words clouded everyone from the questions I asked. Big fail for all of you. Great job.
Obviously for one race to historically vote for one party and one party only reveals that they do not listen to other views and will remain closed-minded for their existence - the vast majority. I will not blindly follow like a sheep and continue to discover things on my accord. Good luck to the rest of you sheep.
FWIW, IMO, your theory is so unlikely as to be silly. Simply accusing a whole race of people that disagree with your positions as uninterested and sheeplike seems more 'sour grapes' than insightful. and more than a little close minded. It will be difficult to discover any new truths on your own if you keep that attitude towards new ideas. The only things you will discover are the things you already believe to be true.
Originally Posted by MrPoon
I think this comes down to the same reason as many other groups defining themselves with one political party or another.
People who are Black, more often than not, perceive one of the political parties as on their side and another as not on their side.
I wish I could say Hahaha, you're a stitch too, you know, if we were back in the 1930's where folks talked like that. But somehow, for some not so funny reason, I find your racist posts not funny. Because, well, they're racist, and racism just ain't a stitch, ya know? Oh, that's right- you don't.
And I have been on record in this forum for years complaining about when the racism argument is incorrectly applied. Here, with you, its spot on.
I suspect that much of the black vote goes to the Democratic party due to it being the party of large government. As with many immigrant classes in America's past, Irish, Italian, etc, some of the first jobs obtain is through government employment. It took awhile, but the latest group that has found employment with government agencies has been black Americans.
One item that might be problematic for the Democrats and a continued solid black vote in the future is that black Americans are moving away from government jobs. For example, there was a recent article about black females finding success in starting their own businesses, and in the professional world.
"Black Women Lead Shift To A Post-Blue World"
.Between the travails of the U.S. Postal Service and the slower shrinkage of the public sector at the state and local level, the dependence of African Americans on government and quasi-government employment will create problems as both wages and employment in the public sector come under pressure.
But there is also some good news from the female half of the community. A piece in the Washington Post analyzes a recent survey which finds Black women doing well in nearly all conceivable metrics. As increasing numbers of Black women enter the professional world, they are beginning to close the the earnings gap between themselves and their white peers. And the good news goes beyond the monetary: the survey finds Black women to be more ambitious, more religious, and more optimistic about their future than many other groups, with a strong understanding of the value of hard work and achievement.
Condoleezza Rice, in other words, is not alone.
One very interesting finding: more and more Black women are setting up as entrepreneurs. According to census bureau figures, 900,000 businesses are owned by Black women, a sharp expansion in recent years. Moving from bureaucracy to business is necessary to success in the 21st century; that so many Black women have figured this out and are acting accordingly is excellent news...
Additionally, government jobs are not as secure as they used to be. The Post Office is a good example of our changing work environment.
"Post Office Problems for Blacks"
Just as they were for the Irish and Italian immigrants of the early twentieth century, government jobs have been an important ladder to the middle class for generations of Black Americans. As one of the largest and most venerable public-sector programs, the Postal Service has long been one of the largest and most effective of these ladders. With the USPS now considering massive cuts, it will likely abdicate its role as a pathway out of urban poverty for Blacks. The Chicago Tribune discusses the change:...
Man this was a loaded thread. I live in Tucson and I talk to a lot of my Mexicans friends here about politics and the majority of them are Democrats. We discuss a lot of issues, like how I have always seen the Mexican culture as being very strong family oriented, religious and hard working. A lot of the values that the Republican Party stands for. Some of the answers that I get from them are that their families always voted Democrat or they brought up immigration issues. Which is understandable. A lot of times I hear from them that they think the GOP is a racists party. I usually follow with a question to them "Do I look or act racist?" While I will never say that there isn't any angry old white men in our Party, but you need to look at the Democrats as well. There are racist blacks (Black Panthers) and latinos (La Raza) that will in no way vote GOP. I don't think it's fair to say only racists vote GOP.
Now, why do Blacks vote Democrat? I have no clue. I'm happy to see great black Republicans coming out like Allen West, Mia Love, Michael Steele, Condie Rice, CL Bryant, Herman Cain, etc and pushing out the message. Also minority leaders like Bobby Jindah and Gov Haley who are also big names in the party I am hoping that it will change the image of the party. A party that I know may have a few racist voters, but don't represent the party. Just like the Democrats have theirs. I guess if you keep saying it enough some people will believe it. There is an article on Townhall right now that says the attack on Obama's "you didn't build that" comment has a racist tone to it. Come on really? I also have a few black friends who do vote Republican and they give me their take on it as well when we talk politics and to why they vote Republican. Reasons, that me saying it as a non-black, would probably be called racist. But I can understand what they are saying and see where they are coming from.
But I will agree, though I do not like this President, and have been called racist for not voting for him, even though I didn't vote for Kerry, Edwards, or Clinton, he is still the President of the Untied States. With a Republican yelling "Liar" during the state of the union, will not help us change that image that blacks already have of this party. That was uncalled. You still need to respect the office even if you don't the man.
But here is a follow on question I have to this one, if anyone wants to answer. Why do blacks vote Democrat when the major urban cities they live in are controlled by Democrats, like Detriot. There is no Republican influence in this city whats so ever. It's all Democrats and the black community suffers, in proverty, education and violence. Why doesn't the Democrats feel some of the pain on this issue? I don't see how this is a Republicans fault......