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    Quote Originally Posted by Lo Porto View Post
    We need to end this conversation. GS lost on purpose which is something Utah fans (at least Utah fans I agree with) will never support. You got your Harrison Barnes. You might make the playoffs to get destroyed by OKC. And you might start wanting to tank again to keep next year's pick when you look at your record when late February rolls around. We'll see.

    Let's move on...
    I am perfectly content with being destroyed in the playoffs. It's all I ever wanted. Besides, with Barnes-Klay-Curry, we could be a contender in three to four years without actually looking like one now. However, this depends on Curry's ankle and Barnes development. Klay is the only one that looked like a sure thing.

    Why do you care if teams tanked? I don't see any of you going "I ****ing hate the Trailblazers." Or "I ****ing hate OKC for building through the draft and tanking on purpose." In fact, you seem really happy with the idea of us getting our *** kicked by them. What's the different? Right, you lost a draft pick. Jazz fans need to stop being self-entitled.

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    I might need to restructure my playoff standings because of Dallas. And the Suns have successfully made them a 9-12 seed team again. At least the Rockets got out of that gap and just traded everything away and made suck happen. hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guppyfighter View Post
    I am perfectly content with being destroyed in the playoffs. It's all I ever wanted. Besides, with Barnes-Klay-Curry, we could be a contender in three to four years without actually looking like one now. However, this depends on Curry's ankle and Barnes development. Klay is the only one that looked like a sure thing.

    Why do you care if teams tanked? I don't see any of you going "I ****ing hate the Trailblazers." Or "I ****ing hate OKC for building through the draft and tanking on purpose." In fact, you seem really happy with the idea of us getting our *** kicked by them. What's the different? Right, you lost a draft pick. Jazz fans need to stop being self-entitled.
    Why do you play the game? Did you honestly love watching your team purposefully lose over and over again? Did you really get your savior in Barns? What message does that send to the rest of your team? That you aren't good enough to compete so lose out so we can get another promising playing to teach how to lose? How much effort are your players really going to give you? Your organization sucks from top to bottom, the Owner, GM, Coach, players, fans, and even the janitor have accepted that losing is ok, until now Oakland is a losing culture that expects to lose. once you've accepted that it will take YEARS to change that losing culture. I would never play for a team like that, any talent that you may have will be long gone to a winning organization in the upcoming years. No one wants to play for, cheer for, or be a LOSER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guppyfighter View Post
    I have been advocating the Warriors to tank since forever. There is nothing wrong with it. The Blazers did it last year and a number of other teams. It happens. You guys are being moral and self righteous about a draft pick you lost out on. That is seriously why you guys hate the Warriors? That's the dumbest reason I have ever heard. "I predict them to lose (want) because they lost on purpose for a draft pick." Also, all the guys we sat, ended up getting surgery. So no, it wasn't tanked. And yes, we traded for an injured center, but you always trade for a Center if it means getting rid of your ****** guard who is ranked last in defense in the league.

    The organization is respectable now and they are not losers, because they are new owners. Unless you want to conflate the old owners with the new ones. "Yes these guys will suck too because the team they run is in the same area and has the same name of the last ****** owners."
    And you guys will be tanking again this year. Have no illusions about that. Losing franchises never become winners by tanking. Just ask the timberwolves and the clippers. Injured contending teams are different.


    Warriors come out and Ta-ank.

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    how are we feeling entitled, YOUR team traded it away, and we ended up with it, it was rightfully ours, and YOUR team should have just sucked it up, and took it like a man, no matter how good of a player you would have gotten, people who tank don't deserve any respect, and people who don't hold their end of the bargain up, don't deserve any respect either, when you come to an agreement to make a trade, you need to follow through with your promise, and by tanking YOUR team broke their promise in that trade, its one thing to be bad, but to be bad on purpose is another thing, that is why us jazz fans feel "entitled" as you state it, to that draft pick, YOUR team traded it away, and should have just kept their end of the bargain, YOUR team should have finshed 8 or better, but lost games on PURPOSE, that is why we feel "entitled", and that is why we hate the warriors, now go back to your own f'n forum, and talk it up with your fans, because we just don't give an f'n crap about you and your fans, you obviously are not going to change our minds, so QUIT trying!

    just think about it, if you owned our pick this year and it was top 7 protected, and if we were 8,9,10, and just decide to start to lose games on purpose, causing you to not get a pick that was rightfully yours. if we would have ended with harrison barnes, you would be coming over here screaming at us for tanking and choosing the player they wanted for their team.

    and don't tell me you would have reacted differently other than us, because you wouldn't have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman5219 View Post
    Why do you play the game? Did you honestly love watching your team purposefully lose over and over again? Did you really get your savior in Barns? What message does that send to the rest of your team? That you aren't good enough to compete so lose out so we can get another promising playing to teach how to lose? How much effort are your players really going to give you? Your organization sucks from top to bottom, the Owner, GM, Coach, players, fans, and even the janitor have accepted that losing is ok, until now Oakland is a losing culture that expects to lose. once you've accepted that it will take YEARS to change that losing culture. I would never play for a team like that, any talent that you may have will be long gone to a winning organization in the upcoming years. No one wants to play for, cheer for, or be a LOSER.
    In sports you can't have a mind frame for one season. You need a long term plan. Anyways, the culture in the locker room has already changed. Everyone here is conflating Cohan's ownership with Lacob. We never lost on purpose with Cohan, we tried to gut out wins. How did that work out for 17 seasons? And no, it doesn't take years to change a losing culture, you just need the right players. Every player on the team has already bought in. That's a culture change right there. However, it takes years to change perception so you are somewhat right.

    Also, if it took years to change a losing culture, the We Believe era would have never happened. We have a good starting five and a good second unit to go with it. The team will compete for a 6-8 seed just like the Jazz.

    Thirdly, I am pretty sure you don't know that we got a new owner willing to spend into the luxury tax. But in case you do know Lacob is very invested this team winning. If he thought losing was acceptable we would have stuck with Monta Ellis. He would have accepted a slightly below .500 team. Instead he a made a move to get a big *** center and than start paying for players. I think you are either ignorant to the change the Warriors have had or you either are just blinded by hatred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guppyfighter View Post
    In sports you can't have a mind frame for one season. You need a long term plan. Anyways, the culture in the locker room has already changed. Everyone here is conflating Cohan's ownership with Lacob. We never lost on purpose with Cohan, we tried to gut out wins. How did that work out for 17 seasons? And no, it doesn't take years to change a losing culture, you just need the right players. Every player on the team has already bought in. That's a culture change right there. However, it takes years to change perception so you are somewhat right.

    Also, if it took years to change a losing culture, the We Believe era would have never happened. We have a good starting five and a good second unit to go with it. The team will compete for a 6-8 seed just like the Jazz.

    Thirdly, I am pretty sure you don't know that we got a new owner willing to spend into the luxury tax. But in case you do know Lacob is very invested this team winning. If he thought losing was acceptable we would have stuck with Monta Ellis. He would have accepted a slightly below .500 team. Instead he a made a move to get a big *** center and than start paying for players. I think you are either ignorant to the change the Warriors have had or you either are just blinded by hatred.
    Mind frame for one season? when was the last time you had a winning season? Dude you are probably that Monte Ellis guy just with a new account, All my fellow Jazz fans have told you Warrior losers to get over it and leave our forum so I will join their voice. This is about Jazz fans and their feelings about the standing next year NOT about how much the Warriors organization is classless as well as their classless fans ( look what you did at half time to Chris Mullen who was a stud ) You'll never get it, losers never do... back to the topic at hand............

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    anyone like what the twimps are doing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman5219 View Post
    Mind frame for one season? when was the last time you had a winning season? Dude you are probably that Monte Ellis guy just with a new account, All my fellow Jazz fans have told you Warrior losers to get over it and leave our forum so I will join their voice. This is about Jazz fans and their feelings about the standing next year NOT about how much the Warriors organization is classless as well as their classless fans ( look what you did at half time to Chris Mullen who was a stud ) You'll never get it, losers never do... back to the topic at hand............
    What does the past have to do with the new ownership laying the foundation to success right now?

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    This will shut up all warrior fans to argue against this. And will give the rest of us a hell of a laugh.

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    And #55 is the best for this pathetic argument:

    The facts heading into this season: The Warriors missed the playoffs 29 times in 35 years … the Warriors won four playoff series total in 34 years … the Warriors haven't made the playoffs for two straight seasons since 1977 … the Warriors haven't made the Conference Finals since 1976 … the Warriors haven't had an All-Star since 1997 … the Warriors have earned spots at 16 of the last 17 lotteries (impossible but true) … the Warriors have made 22 top-14 picks since 1985 (including 11 in the top eight and five in the top three) … and the Warriors made so many bad first-round picks and overpaid so many guys over the past 35 years that I don't even have time to type all their names again.
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    Why do you guys keep conflating old ownership with new ownership? It's not a valid argument at all. "This guy will suck because that last guy sucked." That's a pretty poor fallacy, especially in sports where the landscape is ever changing. And the Bucks basically proved we won this trade when they failed to make the playoffs with an easy second half schedule as they got healthier. Which is in reference to number 60. I actually do like grantland, despite him justifying dumb people booing over ****ing Monta Ellis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lo Porto View Post
    We need to end this conversation. GS lost on purpose which is something Utah fans (at least Utah fans I agree with) will never support. You got your Harrison Barnes. You might make the playoffs to get destroyed by OKC. And you might start wanting to tank again to keep next year's pick when you look at your record when late February rolls around. We'll see.

    Let's move on...
    Who said we would make it as an 8th seed? Give me one weakness the Warriors have? I can't think of one. And as you bring up injuries for the 100th time, let me remind you that four, I repeat four specialist examined both Curry & Bogut, and they all said they will be 100%, I repeat 100% by the start of training camp. So besides injuries that are unpredictable (for all we know the Jazz could have Jefferson get hurt next season), give me one weakness we have, please do! We have a young core mixed in with seasoned vets, we have a great front-court, probably the best passing front-court in the league, with a good back-court, probably the best shooting back-court in the league, and Thompson & Barnes have a real nice chemistry thing going on in summer league, Ezeli is a 7'0 shot blocker who plays great one on one defense, Rush is a 6th man of the year candidate, Jack is a 6th man of the year candidate, if we can get Carl Landry he would be too. Give me a weakness of the Warriors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monta is beast View Post
    If Currys defense is so bad, why do the warriors have the third best defensive team in the league? Why do opposing point guards have a less than average per of 14.9 when Curry is in the game? Why does curry LEAD the nba with a plus minus of +416.
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    You can rattle off all of the stats you want with no context whatsoever. You still said Curry is the 4th best player in the league.
    I guess stats aren't factual when rattled off?

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    Well, Barnes is a rookie and will struggle at times because he is a rookie (still like the pick), which makes the SF position a weakness at times. And we don't have really solid back up bigs behind Lee + Bogut. Basically we are built exactly like the Grizzlies except we have the better PG's and they have the better SF.

    Right now we are a seventh seed with the Thunder/Lakers/Spurs/Grizzlies/Clippers/Mavericks being better. I am moving the Mavericks back up because they got a center again and a good up and coming point guard. Their window is closing, but for next year they will be a good dark horse.

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    Has this turned into two warrior fans trying to debate how good the warriors will be this upcoming year??? Dude the warriors will blow. I don't care if you get dr Andrews standing in front of me face to face telling me precious bogut and curry are healthy. They are made from glass!!!!!! When you have a player made from glass they may look healthy they may play healthy for some games but it's easy for them to injure or reinjure. please take your bullish warrior discussion to the loser forums.

    Again let me say this as simple as possible. If David stern announced tomorrow that the warriors were no longer a NBA team not only would it not matter but it wouldn't be a headline in any national news paper. People would be more shocked that the warriors were still a nba team up to that point. Some might even ask who are the warriors. Please understand no jazz fan gives two shizzz about some lame azzzz warriors.

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