If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.
Granger from Indy for Williams, Ridnour, and Roy's likely retirement expiring contract.
Paul George and Lance Stephenson are clearly Indy's future. David West is a free agent after this year, DJ Augustine is too (and he's terrible) and the Pacers are $8M over the cap right now. Williams gives them a future 4 (forwards are smaller out East) and a quality backup PG with more cap room to extend PG24 soon.
We'd get an "all star caliber" wing who can shoot it pretty well and contribute to the "win-now" mentality of the team while fitting into the "reset button" option of 2014-15.
I know a lot of you hate looking back at failed trades/trade offers, but remember Paul George for Jonny Flynn.
I am starting to think that this thread should be about "actual rumors." It's fun to think about what possible trades we would like to see. But there are millions that could be discussed and get us no where.
Steve, look at this way: Granger playing out of position at the 2, or Ridnour/Barea playing out of position at the 2. Sure he may not be the ideal 2 guard but in comparison to anybody else we throw on the floor, he is a huge upgrade.
Okay Toronto wants Gay (some of us to) and is looking for a 3rd team to jump in to make it work. Think this might work, give up some vets but get young cheap players with upside as well as space at the end of the year to sign Pek.
Wolves recieve Calderon, Ross and Wroten-- Nice pieces moving forward
Raptors receive Gay and Luke--- now have a star and replacement backup PG
Grizz recieve Fields, Roy and JJ. --- Cap relief with replacement SF and backup pg.
I think they'd be expecting at least one solid piece (better than fields and jj, assuming you're including roy as cap relief), and maybe also an expiring.
Also, I highly doubt Torronto lets go of Ross, and if they did, he'd be going to the Griz.
Best trade idea I've seen in a while though, one team always seems to get rolled un multi-team trades.
Another thing with trade scenarios is at what state the team is at. For example the Hill trade is probably throwing in the towel for the season. The Granger is we are still fighting for it. I think the team wants first to see where we at now that (hopefully) Adelman, Pek and Shved are back and with the additions of Gelable and CJ.
Wolves receive Tyreke Evans
Kings get Alexey Shved and Chase Buddinger