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    so, as their per 48 minutes show, if they played the same amount of minutes, Chandler gets more steals, more blocks, more assists, more rebounds...but Pekovic has the better overall game?

    The only area where Pek is better thank Chandler, is in the low post.

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    Well, Chandler>Pekovic is pretty much the same as saying Memphis,Denver,Dallas>Minnesota. We'll just have to wait and see if it gets turned around

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    Quote Originally Posted by WSU Tony View Post
    We are cornered by homers!
    You better keep your back to the wall!

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    haha, that is a perfect analogy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specialiststeve View Post
    Guess we are not letting go of it so.... checking the PER for the 48 min

    Pek - PPG 24.7, ST 1.1, BL 1.1, ASST 1.2, REB 13.1, FT% 74, FG% 56, PER total 21.47

    Chandler- PPG 16.3, ST 1.3, BL 2.1, ASST 1.3, REB 14.3, FT% 68, FG% 67, PER total 18.66

    Looked up chandlers defensive rating and is about a point higher. I am a bit of a homer but also like to think I am a realist and not seeing that Chandler is this WOW defensive guy - very good but at the cost of not having an offensive game. Looking at the numbers I STILL would have Pek instead of Chandler as his overall game is better.
    Chandler has been #1 in the game in TS% for 2 years, and was #1 in the game in offensive rating this season, and won DPOY.

    Look, I am not bashing Pek, I love him. But Chandler for Pek would make us a better team, period.

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    I 2nd that!

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    I would hate seeing Pek go but would make this deal quick.

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    Pek is my favorite player on the Wolves roster, it is incredibly refreshing to watch him play the way he plays. Too many bigs these days are concerned with highlight reel blocks, dunks, and flashy perimeter showings. I love that Pek plays his size.

    That being said, if you were to rank the Centers in the NBA, Pek would fall into the 10 to 15 range. I dont think he has a ton more upside in him, I think what we saw out of Pek last year is right about what we will get, if that. I'm expecting 14 and 8 and would be quite pleased with that production.

    Chandler is not as skilled on the block, theres no real argument to be had in that facet, but every other area of the game he is more impactful. Hes better defensively, more versatile defensively. He would solve our problem of matching up with Aldridge, Millsap, and the other more athletic 4s because Chandler to play those guys.

    When looking at per 48 minute stats, its forgotten who Chandler played last season with. He has the biggest blackhole in the league on the wing, a PF who needs plays run for him to be effective in Stoudemire, and a PG who was good for about a month and otherwise irrelevent. I'm no expert, but I think Chandler would benefit quite nicely from Rubio in a way that Pek did as well. He isnt the offensive rebounder Pek is, but lets not pretend Loves rebounding presnece didnt help Pek more then it hindered him from gobbling up more.

    Pek is a beast and gives us a presence we havent had in these parts for a long time, if ever, but Chandler would make us better. Its neither here nor there cuz we arent getting him anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleJesus View Post
    Love will have off nights, and that is when you need the bench to step up, and the bench has drastically been improved.

    The positives of the balance of the roster if we had Chandler would greatly outweigh the negatives of the roster on the rare occasions Love has a bad night.
    i don't think having chandler over pek would make us as much better as you are suggesting. keep in mind we have steimsma to come in now if we need help shutting down an opposing C.

    at this stage, i actually prefer pek, now that we have AK to help out pek and love down low.

    Quote Originally Posted by WSU Tony View Post
    Half of Pek's buckets are BECAUSE of Rubio. They're easy buckets. If Pek can put them down, Chandler would be able to too. Watch Pek struggle in the first portion of the year without Rubio... I fear he will regress greatly until the passes are back.

    Chandler for Pek is a no brainer. I'd give Williams to make it happen.
    pek was solid after rubio went down at the end of last year. and chandler would not be able to put down the shots pek does, come on.

    pek + williams for chandler - not a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggsohnasty View Post
    That being said, if you were to rank the Centers in the NBA, Pek would fall into the 10 to 15 range. I dont think he has a ton more upside in him, I think what we saw out of Pek last year is right about what we will get, if that. I'm expecting 14 and 8 and would be quite pleased with that production.
    He already averaged 14 and 8 last year, counting the start of the season, when he didn't play much. I think it was about 24min per game final stat.

    If he translates numbers from the last season, it should be about 17 and 8.

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    T-Wolves vs Thunder 3/23/12 Game made 3rd on the list of top 3 games of the year. Check out my thread that I made on NBA forums.

    http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/sho...d.php?t=748830

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    He said the Wolves’ spending this summer still leaves them positioned to re-sign Nikola Pekovic to a big contract. They can exceed the salary cap to sign him either this fall or next summer.
    “If he has the kind of season he had last season and given the size of some of the contracts some of the other centers have gotten, we need to be prepared for it,” Kahn said.
    I really hope Kahn doesn't wait til next summer to sign Pek. We really should sign him during the season.
    Last edited by RuBeasLoveDwill; 08-03-2012 at 01:29 AM.
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    I do enjoy how some cherry pick stats to make their point instead of looking at the overall stats IE - PER rating. TS% - who uses that True shooting? Of course his shots are rebound put backs and alley dunks. Has any one watched him actually play? Chandler has VERY little offensive game. As far as his defense it is better than Peks and no one can deny that but the physicallity and the pounding Pek provides is not in any stat. Again find it interesting how we use The PER as a standard unless it doesn't make our point. I will stand respectfully alone with the most accepted stat PER as my partner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specialiststeve View Post
    I do enjoy how some cherry pick stats to make their point instead of looking at the overall stats IE - PER rating. TS% - who uses that True shooting? Of course his shots are rebound put backs and alley dunks. Has any one watched him actually play? Chandler has VERY little offensive game. As far as his defense it is better than Peks and no one can deny that but the physicallity and the pounding Pek provides is not in any stat. Again find it interesting how we use The PER as a standard unless it doesn't make our point. I will stand respectfully alone with the most accepted stat PER as my partner.
    I have watched them both play a ton. I used TS% and Offensive rating because Chandler is #1 in the entire NBA in both, meaning the notion that he is offensively limited is a joke. Does he have plays run for him? No. But he doesn't need to. A center who gets 11-12 a night off 6 shots while rebounding and defending everything in sight is amazing, especially when you factor in he had no PG and played with a ball stopper. There is no way you can convince me that Pekovic impacts the game on a nightly basis more then Chandler. It's simply not true. Next to Love, Chandler would be the perfect compliment.

    So you dislike some advanced stats if it doesn't help your case, but then use PER. Mmkay.

    Chandler>Pekovic, period.

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    As stated previously it is a mute point as Chandler as a wolf is not happening.

    Respectfully I will agree to disagree on those who say Chandler is better than Pek and am glad we have who we have!!

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