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  1. #316
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    Dodgers and Reds are speaking to Phils regarding Victorino. Reds are probably trying to speed something up after the Pirates move. Well our rivals are making moves or positioning themselves for moves. Interested and excited to see what Mo does.

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    Also in Joe Strauss' chat today he mentioned that the Cardinals could try to go after Broxton or surmised that Broxton would be a great fit here.

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    Guys remember there is an "ignore" function. You can choose to ignore guys.

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    there have been zero rumors about the cards the last few days.... kinda sad

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    That could be good though man, lay low. I mean look at the dodgers they just swooped in and grabbed hanley ramirez. I know I sure as heck didn't expect that.

    Also I was kinda right on the fuentes deal but He is coming up 2 days earlier than what I figured, which is fine. We need him definitely and Marte was sent down too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    Grossman was 86 on Keith Laws. Good try though.
    Pre-season
    At mid-season he isn't

    And he isn't on anyone else's list and was 175 mid-season by several places.

    They are comps because they are lefties and similar pitchers. No one said Vargas is as good. You fabricated that so you could have an excuse to be butt hurt about it.
    The word used was


    'comp'


    Here are the posts


    Quote Originally Posted by A.Mopp View Post
    wandy was just traded. will be interesting to see for what

    Quote Originally Posted by FWBrodie View Post
    Yeah that's a close Vargas comp.




    If you are going to come in here and post trade ideas, I would prefer if you didn't make **** up

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    Eh, he claimed that Vargas is better than Wainwright as well, so he doesn't have much credibility left.

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    You havent given any kind of reasoning or anything. Just piggy backing of Jeffy.
    Last edited by Jeffy25; 07-25-2012 at 08:37 PM. Reason: No insults allowed

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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    You havent given any kind of reasoning or anything. Just piggy backing of Jeffy.
    I didn't realize something so painfully obvious required any kind of reasoning, but here you go:

    Vargas in 2012
    5.93 K/9
    2.48 BB/9
    1.63 HR/9
    4.95 FIP
    4.40 xFIP
    0.3 fWAR

    Wainwright in 2012
    8.61 K/9
    2.34 BB/9
    0.80 HR/9
    3.18 FIP
    3.05 xFIP
    2.6 fWAR

    Not even close, and really, name calling?
    Last edited by Jeffy25; 07-25-2012 at 08:37 PM. Reason: Removed the insult from the quoted post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Holders View Post
    Eh, he claimed that Vargas is better than Wainwright as well, so he doesn't have much credibility left.
    sweet Jesus

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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    You havent given any kind of reasoning or anything. Just piggy backing of Jeffy.
    uhhh.

    It was said

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    Vargas is one of the 10 worst starters in baseball. Stop.
    by you

    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    That's funny. I can name 7 off the top that have been worst.
    Noesi, Beavan, Matusz, Arrieta, Hunter, Lincecum, wainwright.
    And that's simply not true at all.


    Also, no insults, I edited out your insult out of your post

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    Ok, but you guys can gang up on and bully people?
    And you let bagwell call everyone names and stuff in the MLB forum when he is with you.

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    Please, Please, Please..... people, can't we all just stop talking about Jason Vargas until he gets ironically traded to the Cardinals. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    Ok, but you guys can gang up on and bully people?
    And you let bagwell call everyone names and stuff in the MLB forum when he is with you.
    Excuse me.

    Who is bullying you?


    And I have to edit Bagwell's posts all the freaking time. Seriously, look through his posts, you will see a high number of posts that I have had to edit out insults. And he just came back from a month-long ban.


    Anymore false accusations you want to come in here and make?
    Last edited by Jeffy25; 07-25-2012 at 08:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cards7 View Post
    Please, Please, Please..... people, can't we all just stop talking about Jason Vargas until he gets ironically traded to the Cardinals. Thanks!
    I know.


    It's going to be hilarious when he is actually a Cardinal lol.


    It would be a bahahaha moment

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