Is Magic front office silly for swapping places with the Nets?

**ldawg** · 07-03-2012, 07:40 AM

Why would Orlando trade Howard in the East? I mean when you have a player like Howard and you see a team forming in your conference that you will not be able to beat why do you trade him there? That is a really silly move IMO on Magic part. They are swapping places with the nets. Nets will become a top 4 team in the East and Magic will become a bottom 4. Its Not like Nets trade is better than others.

**Raps08-09 Champ** · 07-03-2012, 07:49 AM

Not as if they have a choice, now do they?

**thenaj17** · 07-03-2012, 08:12 AM

Either that or lose him for nothing next year and him playing like crap all this year

**aztr0** · 07-03-2012, 08:27 AM

What choice do they have? Let him leave for nothing? He has already stated he will only sign with the Nets. That is enough to scare off most of the teams knowing that he will not sign with whoever else that trades for him.

**njnets** · 07-03-2012, 08:30 AM

^yea, basically that. if he refuses to sign an extension with the lakers (which is what it seems right now), the lakers wont accept a deal. the nets, the only place he will, can offer two solid big men and some picks. idk if brooks is involved in the deal. its the only way at this point to get value for him.

yes, your point makes sense but they would risk being even worse if they do not acquire anyone for him in return.

**bholly** · 07-03-2012, 08:31 AM

They haven't done it yet. Honestly, I think the bigger problem with the deal would be that they aren't getting the best return, not where Dwight ends up. They'll be rebuilding for the next few years anyway. JJ's already 31, and they can't exactly add anyone else for foreseeable future. Even if Orlando have the perfect rebuild by bottoming out and lucking into a superstar in the draft, best case scenario they're contending in 4 or 5 years, at which point Brooklyn are quite a bit older (Wallace 33-34, Johnson 35-36, Howard 30-31, Williams 32-33), so it's not like their times are going to overlap a whole lot.

**bholly** · 07-03-2012, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by njnets

^yea, basically that. if he refuses to sign an extension with the lakers (which is what it seems right now), the lakers wont accept a deal. the nets, the only place he will, can offer two solid big men and some picks. idk if brooks is involved in the deal. its the only way at this point to get value for him.

yes, your point makes sense but they would risk being even worse if they do not acquire anyone for him in return.

No it isn't. Plenty of teams (Atlanta and Houston come to mind) would offer better value than Hump + Lopez, likely even without a signature.

Convincing people on here isn't going to make anything anymore true, so just discuss things honestly man.

**njnets** · 07-03-2012, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by bholly

No it isn't. Plenty of teams (Atlanta and Houston come to mind) would offer better value than Hump + Lopez, likely even without a signature.

Convincing people on here isn't going to make anything anymore true, so just discuss things honestly man.

they can offer more value, but would those franchises be willing to trade for him just for one year without a commitment? thats the main point of my argument. i dont see any franchise accepting a deal without him inking a deal. if he does, then yes, lakers, rockets, and hawks can offer better. but if nobody can get him to a long term deal, the nets are going to be the only ones, i would assume, to offer up. i wouldnt want a rental dwight. it would be too expensive and not smart because you would trade assets that could be used in the future.

**koreancabbage** · 07-03-2012, 08:36 AM

trade him to a team in the west who's offering 1-2 young pieces. it seems they won't be getting much and they surely have to trade him before the season starts as he won't be resigning most likely.

Harden and Ibaka for Dwight is the most logical trade for both teams. Don't know if OKC will do that as they are a smaller market and will obviously be afraid of Dwight leaving but this almost guarantees you a championship next year or a trip right back to the finals - enough to convince Dwight to come back hopefully.

**D-Block21-Chito** · 07-03-2012, 08:37 AM

If this happens there salary would be close to 70 mil with 4 people on the roster haha

**koreancabbage** · 07-03-2012, 08:47 AM

Orlando is pretty dumb for to trade Marshon Brooks and Brook Lopez however. thats not enough for a superstar player. an allstar for a few non-stars is a horrible trade.

Hibbert (if he stays with Indiana), Monroe, Chandler are all better centers right now than Brook Lopez LOL hence, Lopez is not an allstar.

**bholly** · 07-03-2012, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by njnets

they can offer more value, but would those franchises be willing to trade for him just for one year without a commitment? thats the main point of my argument. i dont see any franchise accepting a deal without him inking a deal. if he does, then yes, lakers, rockets, and hawks can offer better. but if nobody can get him to a long term deal, the nets are going to be the only ones, i would assume, to offer up. i wouldnt want a rental dwight. it would be too expensive and not smart because you would trade assets that could be used in the future.

Houston were very widely reported to be willing to take a rental, and that was before the Nets ruled themselves out of signing him as a FA, so I think they'd still be keen.

Between Lowry, Martin (and his expiring), Scola, young guys like Patterson and Morris, all this year's draft picks (Lamb, White, Jones), rights to Motiejunas, and enough cap room to take back Hedo - I'm pretty sure they have the assets to put together a better package than the Nets if they wanted to.

Atlanta, too, with Teague and either Horford or Smith, and they especially would like their chance of keeping him given it's his home town.

**GrumpyOldMan** · 07-03-2012, 09:09 AM

Assuming The Nets sign Wallace, Johnson and Williams and still have to fill out the rest of the roster, how much cap room would they have left? I'm just asking this because if Dwight becomes a freeagent next season will the Nets even be able to afford him? If they can't then Dwight loses a lot of leverage and will have to expand his destination list. I wouldn't rush into a trade just yet if I'm with the Magic.

**Whomewhome** · 07-03-2012, 09:18 AM

This is extremely complicate and probably the most complicated trade (if it happens) ever. I do think that the Magic screwed themselves. They had a great offer in March and rejected it. Everyone keeps saying you can't get equal value for a superstar and they are right, but you take the best you get. Look at Utah. They jumped when we offered them 2 picks, Favors and Devin Harris.

Now Orlando is sort of cornered and in desperation mode...

**Whomewhome** · 07-03-2012, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Assuming The Nets sign Wallace, Johnson and Williams and still have to fill out the rest of the roster, how much cap room would they have left? I'm just asking this because if Dwight becomes a freeagent next season will the Nets even be able to afford him? If they can't then Dwight loses a lot of leverage and will have to expand his destination list. I wouldn't rush into a trade just yet if I'm with the Magic.

Yes they would own his bird rights, and Proky has come out and said he is willing to pay luxury tax to keep his promise of a championship by 2015!

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