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    Curious, considering the Hawks are kind of strapped with only 6 players at $61 million and 2 rookies would you welcome a trade of Robin Lopex/Warrick/Aaron Brooks for Smith?

    All 3 would be about the same price as smith and you would still have the MLE to use. I know it isn't the greatest trade in the world but gives a center, a backup pf, and a pg/sg flex as a decent 6th man.

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    I'd rather just sign cheap veterans and keep Smith until at least the trade deadline, perhaps longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orlandij View Post
    Curious, considering the Hawks are kind of strapped with only 6 players at $61 million and 2 rookies would you welcome a trade of Robin Lopex/Warrick/Aaron Brooks for Smith?

    All 3 would be about the same price as smith and you would still have the MLE to use. I know it isn't the greatest trade in the world but gives a center, a backup pf, and a pg/sg flex as a decent 6th man.
    Absolutely no reason for the Hawks to consider that trade! Smith has more value than that.

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    Just say Josh Smith (for a 2013 1st round pick) is traded or his contract expires after next season. We would have $40 mil to spend (before picking up the option on Teague and with Marvin's contract, so if we trade Marvin we will have more) to sign 2 players to max deals.

    Some Free agents next year:

    Chris Paul
    Dwight Howard
    Andrew Bynum
    James Harden
    Josh Smith
    Ty Lawson
    Paul George
    Serge Ibaka
    Steph Curry
    Tyreke Evans
    Derrick Favors

    2 of those guys could be with Horford and 2-3 2013 1st round draft picks (ours, Joe's trade, and a Smith trade if happens).

    Assuming we can't get Bynum/Howard/Paul:

    Steph Curry/Jeff Teague??
    James Harden/John Jenkins
    draft pick
    Al Horford
    draft pick

    Or (what I would rather do, build young and through the draft) trade all 3 picks for Shabazz Muhammad and keep our cap:

    Jeff Teague
    Shabazz Muhammad/John Jenkins
    ??????????
    Al Horford
    ??????????

    Would have all that cap to fill holes with 1 year deals and look at the 2014 free agents. So many options.
    Last edited by *Silver&Black*; 07-02-2012 at 03:39 PM.

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    ^^^Ty Lawson has been locked-up by the nuggets. It sounds good now, but what's the chances of half of those guys hitting the open market next offseason..not good.
    "..complex mane dat love simple thangs."*S.L.uggeR*

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    I wonder what's Ferry's vision, now that he got rid of Joe's mega-contract? I can see him trading J. Smith and collecting good pieces/assets. Mayo, sign-n-trade for Crawford (NOH)? We shall see.
    "..complex mane dat love simple thangs."*S.L.uggeR*

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    Sounds like Marvin for Devin Harris is happening too! WOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Silver&Black* View Post
    Sounds like Marvin for Devin Harris is happening too! WOW.
    WHAT? Where did you hear that?

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    All over Twitter and other Hawks boards. A radio station in Utah reported it, and will happen when Joe trade is completed. I guess with Teague, Farmar, and Flynn, Harris will be our SG with Jenkins?

    We need a SF or Center now. Ferry is the man.

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    Not to mention that Harris is also a FA at years end.

    Harris/Teague
    Stephenson/ Jenkins
    ????/????
    Smith/Ivan
    Horford/Zaza/ Petro

    I don't think the Hawks will keep all the players they got this trade. Still could go after Beasley with the MLE

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    ^^^ Or take back Turk in a deal with the Magic.

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    Let's see if Ferry can convince Dwight to come home. He would definitely make Phillips Arena a real home court for the hawks. Dwight has probably blown his chance at going to Brooklyn, maybe Ferry can open his eyes about coming home. It's just hard to imagine the magic trading their franchise to ATL.
    "..complex mane dat love simple thangs."*S.L.uggeR*

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    The team could be worse than last year, but attendance will go up next season.

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    FA list for next season.
    Point Guard
    (name, team – 2012-13 salary – status)

    Chris Paul, L.A. Clippers – $17.8 million – Unrestricted
    John Wall, Washington Wizards – $5.9 million – Team Option ($6.7 million)
    Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors – $4.0 million – Restricted ($5.3 million Qualifying Offer)
    Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers – $5.4 million – Team Option ($5.6 million)
    Darren Collison, Indiana Pacers – $2.3 million – Restricted ($3.3 million Qualifying Offer)
    Jrue Holiday, Philadelphia 76ers – $2.7 million – Restricted ($3.8 million Qualifying Offer)
    Ty Lawson, Denver Nuggets – $2.5 million – Restricted ($3.6 million Qualifying Offer)
    Brandon Jennings, Milwaukee Bucks – $3.2 million – Restricted ($4.3 million Qualifying Offer)
    Ricky Rubio, Minnesota Timberwolves – $3.7 million – Team Option ($4.0 million)
    Devin Harris, Utah Jazz – $8.5 million – Unrestricted
    Kyle Lowry, Houston Rockets – $5.8 million – Team Option ($6.2 million)
    Eric Bledsoe, L.A. Clippers – $1.7 million – Team Option ($2.6 million)
    Jose Calderon, Toronto Raptors – $10.6 million – Unrestricted
    Brandon Knight, Detroit Pistons – $2.7 million – Team Option ($2.8 million)
    Jeff Teague, Atlanta Hawks – $2.4 million – Restricted ($3.5 million Qualifying Offer)
    Roddy Beaubois, Dallas Mavericks – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.3 million Qualifying Offer)
    Jarrett Jack, New Orleans Hornets – $5.4 million – Unrestricted
    Beno Udrih, Milwaukee Bucks – $7.4 million – Unrestricted
    Norris Cole, Miami HEAT – $1.1 million – Team Option ($1.1 million)
    Eric Maynor, Oklahoma City Thunder – $2.3 million – Restricted ($3.4 million Qualifying Offer)
    Mario Chalmers, Miami HEAT – $4.0 million – Team Option ($4.0 million)
    Kemba Walker, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.5 million – Team Option ($2.6 million)
    Greivis Vasquez, New Orleans Hornets – $1.2 million – Team Option ($2.2 million)
    Reggie Jackson, Oklahoma City Thunder – $1.2 million – Team Option ($1.3 million)
    Corey Joseph, San Antonio Spurs – $1.1 million – Team Option ($1.1 million)
    Will Bynum, Detroit Pistons – $3.3 million – Unrestricted
    Toney Douglas, New York Knicks – $2.1 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Nolan Smith, Portland Trail Blazers – $1.4 million – Team Option ($1.4 million)
    Jeremy Pargo, Memphis Grizzlies – $1.0 million – Unrestricted*
    Earl Watson, Utah Jazz – $2.0 million – Unrestricted
    Sebastian Telfair, Phoenix Suns – $1.6 million – Unrestricted
    Daniel Gibson, Cleveland Cavaliers – $4.8 million – Unrestricted
    C.J. Watson, Chicago Bulls – $3.2 million – Unrestricted
    Shaun Livingston, Milwaukee Bucks – $3.5 million – Unrestricted
    Shelvin Mack, Washington Wizards – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Andrew Goudelock, L.A. Lakers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Shooting Guard
    (name, team – 2012-13 salary – status)

    Monta Ellis, Milwaukee Bucks – $11.0 million – Early Termination Option ($11.0 million)
    Andre Iguodala, Philadelphia 76ers – $14.7 million – Early Termination Option ($15.9 million)
    Tyreke Evans, Sacramento Kings – $5.3 million – Restricted ($6.9 million Qualifying Offer)
    Kevin Martin, Houston Rockets – $12.4 million – Unrestricted
    James Harden, Oklahoma City Thunder – $5.8 million – Restricted ($7.6 million Qualifying Offer)
    DeMar DeRozan, Toronto Raptors – $3.3 million – Restricted ($4.5 million Qualifying Offer)
    Evan Turner, Philadelphia 76ers – $5.2 million – Team Option ($6.7 million)
    Jordan Crawford, Washington Wizards – $1.2 million – Team Option ($2.2 million)
    Ben Gordon, Detroit Pistons – $12.4 million – Player Option ($13.2 million)
    Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs – $14.1 million – Unrestricted
    MarShon Brooks, Brooklyn Nets – $1.2 million – Team Option ($1.2 million)
    Alec Burks, Utah Jazz – $2.1 million – Team Option ($2.2 million)
    Corey Maggette, Charlotte Bobcats - $10.9 million – Unrestricted
    Tony Allen, Memphis Grizzlies – $3.3 million – Unrestricted
    Iman Shumpert, New York Knicks – $1.6 million – Team Option ($1.7 million)
    J.J. Redick, Orlando Magic – $6.2 million – Unrestricted
    Stephen Jackson, San Antonio Spurs – $10.1 million – Unrestricted
    Mike Dunleavy, Milwaukee Bucks – $3.8 million – Unrestricted
    Anthony Morrow, Brooklyn Nets – $4.0 million – Unrestricted
    Daequan Cook, Oklahoma City Thunder – $3.1 million – Unrestricted
    Klay Thompson, Golden State Warriors – $2.2 million – Team Option ($2.3 million)
    Ronnie Brewer, Chicago Bulls – $4.4 million – Unrestricted
    Gerald Henderson, Charlotte Bobcats – $3.1 million – Restricted ($4.3 million Qualifying Offer)
    Gary Neal, San Antonio Spurs – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Corey Brewer, Denver Nuggets – $2.7 million – Unrestricted
    Gary Forbes, Toronto Raptors – $1.5 million – Unrestricted
    Reggie Williams, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.5 million – Unrestricted
    Jimmer Fredette, Sacramento Kings – $2.3 million – Team Option ($2.4 million)
    Jimmy Butler, Chicago Bulls – $1.1 million – Team Option ($1.1 million)
    Christian Eyenga, L.A. Lakers – $1.1 million – Team Option ($2.1 million)
    Wayne Ellington, Minnesota Timberwolves – $2.1 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Avery Bradley, Boston Celtics – $1.6 million – Team Option ($2.5 million)
    Xavier Henry, New Orleans Hornets – $2.3 million – Team Option ($3.2 million)
    Dominique Jones, Dallas Mavericks – $1.3 million – Team Option ($2.3 million)
    Martell Webster, Minnesota Timberwolves – $5.7 million – Unrestricted
    Raja Bell, Utah Jazz – $3.5 million – Unrestricted
    Francisco Garcia, Sacramento Kings – $6.1 million – Team Option ($6.4 million)
    Lazar Hayward, Oklahoma City Thunder – $1.2 million – Team Option ($2.1 million)
    Elliot Williams, Portland Trail Blazers – $1.4 million – Team Option ($2.4 million)
    Quentin Richardson, Orlando Magic – $2.6 million – Player Option ($2.8 million)
    Charles Jenkins, Golden State Warriors – $0.8 million – Unrestricted
    Josh Selby, Memphis Grizzlies – $0.8 million – Team Option ($0.9 million)
    Lester Hudson, Memphis Grizzlies – $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Small Forward
    (name, team – 2012-13 salary – status)

    Josh Smith, Atlanta Hawks – $13.2 million – Unrestricted
    Paul George, Indiana Pacers – $2.6 million – Team Option ($3.3 million)
    Derrick Williams, Minnesota Timberwolves – $4.8 million – Team Option ($5.0 million)
    Gordon Hayward, Utah Jazz – $2.9 million – Team Option ($3.8 million)
    Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio Spurs – $1.8 million – Team Option ($1.9 million)
    Wesley Johnson, Minnesota Timberwolves – $4.3 million – Team Option ($5.4 million)
    Shawn Marion, Dallas Mavericks – $8.4 million – Early Termination Option ($9.1 million)
    Dorrell Wright, Golden State Warriors – $4.1 million – Unrestricted
    Jan Vesely, Washington Wizards – $3.2 million – Team Option ($3.3 million)
    Linas Kleiza, Toronto Raptors – $4.6 million – Player Option ($4.6 million)
    Richard Jefferson, Golden State Warriors – $10.2 million – Player Option ($11.1 million)
    Trevor Ariza, New Orleans Hornets – $7.3 million – Player Option ($7.7 million)
    James Johnson, Toronto Raptors – $2.8 million – Restricted ($4.0 million Qualifying Offer)
    Metta World Peace, L.A. Lakers – $7.3 million – Early Termination Option ($7.7 million)
    Al-Farouq Aminu, New Orleans Hornets – $2.9 million – Team Option ($3.7 million)
    James Jones, Miami HEAT – $1.5 million – Player Option ($1.5 million)
    Rashard Lewis, Washington Wizards – $22.7 million – Unrestricted
    Markieff Morris, Phoenix Suns – $2.0 million – Team Option ($2.1 million)
    Omri Casspi, Cleveland Cavaliers – $2.3 million – Restricted ($3.3 million)
    Chris Singleton, Washington Wizards – $1.6 million – Team Option ($1.6 million)
    Marvin Williams, Atlanta Hawks – $8.3 million – Early Termination Option ($7.5 million)
    Kyle Korver, Chicago Bulls – $5.0 million – Unrestricted
    Luke Babbitt, Portland Trail Blazers – $1.9 million – Team Option ($2.9 million)
    Luke Walton, Cleveland Cavaliers – $5.8 million – Unrestricted
    E’Twaun Moore, Boston Celtics – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Julyan Stone, Denver Nuggets – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Power Forward
    (name, team – 2012-13 salary – status)

    Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers – $7.2 million – Restricted ($9.4 million Qualifying Offer)
    Taj Gibson, Chicago Bulls – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    David West, Indiana Pacers – $10.0 million – Unrestricted
    DeJuan Blair, San Antonio Spurs – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Serge Ibaka, Oklahoma City Thunder – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    Paul Millsap, Utah Jazz – $8.6 million – Unrestricted
    Al Jefferson, Utah Jazz – $15.0 million – Unrestricted
    Derrick Favors, Utah Jazz – $4.8 million – Team Option ($6.0 million)
    Tristan Thompson, Cleveland Cavaliers – $3.9 million – Team Option ($4.1 million)
    Bismack Biyombo, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.9 million – Team Option ($3.0 million)
    Lamar Odom, Dallas Mavericks – $8.2 million – Unrestricted
    Larry Sanders, Milwaukee Bucks – $2.0 million – Team Option ($3.1 million)
    Ed Davis, Toronto Raptors – $2.2 million – Team Option ($3.2 million)
    Patrick Patterson, Houston Rockets – $2.1 million – Team Option ($3.1 million)
    Trevor Booker, Washington Wizards – $1.4 million – Team Option ($2.4 million)
    Austin Daye, Detroit Pistons – $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Tyler Hansbrough, Indiana Pacers – $3.1 million – Restricted ($4.3 million Qualifying Offer)
    Kenneth Faried, Denver Nuggets – $1.3 million – Team Option ($1.4 million)
    Marcus Morris, Houston Rockets – $1.9 million – Team Option ($2.0 million)
    Tobias Harris, Milwaukee Bucks – $1.5 million – Team Option ($1.5 million)
    Hakim Warrick, Phoenix Suns – $4.3 million – Team Option ($4.3 million)
    Josh McRoberts, L.A. Lakers – $3.1 million – Unrestricted
    Gustavo Ayon, New Orleans Hornets – $1.5 million – Team Option ($1.5 million)
    Jeff Pendergraph, Indiana Pacers – $1.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Ryan Gomes, L.A. Clippers – $4.0 million – Unrestricted
    Dante Cunningham, Memphis Grizzlies – $2.1 million – Team Option ($2.2 million)
    Charlie Villanueva, Detroit Pistons – $8.1 million – Player Option ($8.6 million)
    Quincy Pondexter, Memphis Grizzlies – $1.2 million – Team Option ($2.2 million)
    JaJuan Johnson, Boston Celtics – $1.1 million – Team Option ($1.1 million)
    Jordan Hamilton, Denver Nuggets – $1.1 million – Team Option ($1.2 million)
    Craig Smith, Portland Trail Blazers – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Samardo Samuels, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Sean Williams, Dallas Mavericks – $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Hamady N’Diaye, Washington Wizards – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Justin Harper, Orlando Magic – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Josh Harrellson, New York Knicks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Jon Leuer, Milwaukee Bucks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Center
    (name, team – 2012-13 salary – status)

    Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic – $19.5 million – Unrestricted
    Andrew Bynum, L.A. Lakers – $16.1 million – Unrestricted
    DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento Kings – $3.9 million – Team Option ($4.9 million)
    Greg Monroe, Detroit Pistons – $3.2 million – Team Option ($4.1 million)
    Samuel Dalembert, Houston Rockets – $6.7 million – Unrestricted
    Nikola Pekovic, Minnesota Timberwolves – $4.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Nikola Vucevic, Philadelphia 76ers – $1.7 million – Team Option ($1.8 million)
    Ekpe Udoh, Milwaukee Bucks – $3.5 million – Team Option ($4.5 million)
    Emeka Okafor, New Orleans Hornets – $13.5 million – Early Termination Option ($14.5 million)
    Andris Biedrins, Golden State Warriors – $9.0 million – Early Termination Option ($9.0 million)
    Tiago Splitter, San Antonio Spurs – $3.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Enes Kanter, Utah Jazz – $4.3 million – Team Option ($4.5 million)
    Zaza Pachulia, Atlanta Hawks – $5.3 million – Unrestricted
    Brad Miller, Minnesota Timberwolves – $5.1 million – Unrestricted
    Kurt Thomas, Portland Trail Blazers – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Timofey Mozgov, Denver Nuggets – $3.1 million – Unrestricted*
    Kevin Seraphin, Washington Wizards – $1.8 million – Team Option ($2.8 million)
    Cole Aldrich, Oklahoma City Thunder – $2.4 million – Team Option ($3.2 million)
    Johan Petro, Brooklyn Nets – $3.5 million – Unrestricted
    Dexter Pittman, Miami HEAT – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Byron Mullens, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.3 million – Restricted ($3.3 million Qualifying Offer)
    Jon Brockman, Milwaukee Bucks – $1.0 million – Unrestricted
    Brandan Wright, Dallas Mavericks – $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Jerome Jordan, New York Knicks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    http://www.hoopsworld.com/2013-nba-free-agents

    Subject to change, obviously. Plus you have to consider players who might be trade bait next year.
    Last edited by Bravo95; 07-02-2012 at 08:41 PM.

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    You guys looking like a trade partner for D12.

    Hoford,Teague,1rd for D12

    Or you could wait till next year and sign D12,I heard Ferry has Jsmoove buying in and he will recruit his buddy D12.

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