Supersonics Gripes

[greg_ory_2005]

Vin Baker - Not quite sure if his contract is correct. Checked out basketball reference and it's correct until up to the 2003-04 season. Also feel that his rebounding should be better than a C, considering that he averaged over 7 rebs during his career.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...bakervi01.html

Gary Payton - Same thing about his contract. Not really sure if it's correct or not. Basketball reference has roughly 12.2, 12.9, 12.6. The sim has it much higher. I also feel that his inside and outside game should be improved as well. Payton was a beast during those years and C+ inside and B outside seems a bit low.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...paytoga01.html

Rashard Lewis - Maybe have his rebounding better than a C. He averaged 7 a game in 2000-2001, and also shot 43% from 3. So maybe up his outside a bit.

[Tymathee]

contracts are fine, i dont know where he got them tbh, he used some site and got the original contracts. in the previous cba you could restructure.

i upped his jumpshot a bit, hes a 80% career from the line but i lowered his inside by the same no change in scoring just makes him more of what he is, a shooter not an inside guy

payton is fine, he'll score just fine with the ratings he's got.

[zB_#85]

Baker needs to be better. The year he went down hill was 00-01 but since everything in this sim should be based on anything prior to that, here's his #'s in years prior:

'93: 13.5 ppg / 7.6 rpg / .501 fg%
'94: 17.7 ppg / 10.3 rpg / .483 fg%
'95: 21.1 ppg / 9.9 rpg / .489 fg%
'96: 21.0 ppg / 10.3 rpg / .505 fg%
'97: 19.2 ppg / 8.0 rpg / .542 fg%
'98: 13.8 ppg / 6.2 rpg / .453 fg%
'99: 16.6 ppg / 7.7 rpg / .455 fg%

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/vin_ba...eer_stats.html

since this sim is supposed to pick up at the end of those given stats, there is no way he should be C+ C B- C. At a minimum I say inside B- rebounding B-. Really to be fully accurate I think inside B but realize that might be a stretch since ratings were so far off on him to begin with. Whoever made the file on him was letting his career decline come into play which shouldn't since it happened after this sim is supposed to start. Hell, I had Blake Griffin in the last sim and he was A- inside and A- rebounding and I still don't think his #'s were as good as Vin Baker's actual '96 stats, he was like 18ppg, 11rpg, and way worse %...

[zB_#85]

Bird years:

Rashard Lewis- 2
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/rashar...eer_stats.html

Jelani McCoy- 2
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfil...r=jelani_mccoy

Ruben Patterson- 2
http://www.nba.com/historical/player...uben_patterson

Patrick Chewing- 15
http://www.nba.com/history/players/ewing_stats.html

[dhopisthename]

just so you know a c rebounder can get 7-8 rebounds which is what baker was getting. I gave him a few points to B- he was on the cusp anyways. also put in birdies

[zB_#85]

Thx dhop, but what about his inside scoring? That's what I thought was further off anyways...

[dhopisthename]

oh sorry I moved his inside to b- I left his rebounding alone lol. he should get you between 7-10 rebounds depending on who you have next to him

[zB_#85]

10-4 fair

[zB_#85]

Vin Baker @ C?

[zB_#85]

Askarabic @ SF?
Mason @ SF?
McCoy @ PF?

[Tymathee]

no change all

[zB_#85]

Jefferies @ SG?
Barnes @ SG?
Evans @ C?
Capt Jack @ SG?
Capt Jack @ PG?
Gregory @ PG?
Barnes @ PG?

[Tymathee]

Jefferies @ SG?
Barnes @ SG?
Evans @ C?
Capt Jack @ SG?
Capt Jack @ PG?
Gregory @ PG?
Barnes @ PG?

c+
c+
b
b
c+
c+

[zB_#85]

Move Diop back to C plz

[dhopisthename]

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