JVR traded to TOR for Luke Schenn

**1908_Cubs** · 06-23-2012, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Jbendz

So basically we traded a high upside offensive player for a high upside defensive player, which was our biggest need. Good enough for me. Still kinda sucks to see JVR go, especially if he blows up in Toronto, but Schenn sounds like he'll fit in nicely here. I imagine that as long as Schenn plays up to his potential this will be a good trade regardless of what JVR does.

Pretty much. Though I'd actually word it something like this:

We traded a slightly underperforming, high potential forward for an equally underperforming, high potential defensemen.

But yeah, this is more of a trade that will benefit both teams. I like it, personally.

**Claude28Giroux** · 06-23-2012, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by ironman9518

Can Schenn play on the power play? It would be great to have a good right handed shot on the point for the pp

I think he could play. Coburn Plays of the PP and he isnt much of an Offensive Defense so.

Hartsy-Simmonds in the front
Giroux-Voracek on semi points
Timo on point

That setup was absolutely beast last year

Schenn-Briere-Read
Mesz-Schenn

How is that?

**castan_b** · 06-23-2012, 06:53 PM

good trade ... i don't think so for the flyers...

needed trade ... definately for both teams and players...

who will end up on the right side of the deal ... i think the flyers will because JVR gets hurt too much and the brother factor ... but JVR, if he stays healthy, will make this deal look fairly bad in the long run

**bringbackfredex** · 06-23-2012, 06:53 PM

The fact that we gave him up for just Schenn means that something big is next, you can count on that. My money is on Parise, and if that's the case then I like what we just did here a lot.

**blujaysrock** · 06-23-2012, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Claude28Giroux

I think he could play. Coburn Plays of the PP and he isnt much of an Offensive Defense so.

Hartsy-Simmonds in the front
Giroux-Voracek on semi points
Timo on point

That setup was absolutely beast last year

Schenn-Briere-Read
Mesz-Schenn

How is that?

Schenn can't play on the PP. He can't shoot at all... slap shot that is. And every time he gets the puck to shoot, he hesitates for a few seconds before he shoots and it's usually blocked. Been that way since his rookie year. Don't think I've seen him do a one timer, either

Not many, if he has.

**castan_b** · 06-23-2012, 06:55 PM

we still need to resign jagr or find a wing talented enough to play wtih giroux ... hartnell, i love you but you need to go next ... unless you want to play on the 3rd line.

**castan_b** · 06-23-2012, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by blujaysrock

Schenn can't play on the PP. He can't shoot at all... slap shot that is. And every time he gets the puck to shoot, he hesitates for a few seconds before he shoots and it's usually blocked. Been that way since his rookie year. Don't think I've seen him do a one timer, either

Not many, if he has.

no offense ... but you guys had no offense and there weren't many lanes to shoot through

**bringbackfredex** · 06-23-2012, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by castan_b

we still need to resign jagr or find a wing talented enough to play wtih giroux ... hartnell, i love you but you need to go next ... unless you want to play on the 3rd line.

Um, no.

**1908_Cubs** · 06-23-2012, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by bringbackfredex

Um, no.

Don't even bother.

It's like people completely forget that 25-30 goal scoring power forwards who are quality on the PP aren't a dime a dozen.

He's been on an anti-Hartnell kick for a while.

**BrunoPhilly14** · 06-23-2012, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by bringbackfredex

The fact that we gave him up for just Schenn means that something big is next, you can count on that. My money is on Parise, and if that's the case then I like what we just did here a lot.

Was waiting for someone to say that....... I just hope you're correct.

ray:

**blujaysrock** · 06-23-2012, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by castan_b

no offense ... but you guys had no offense and there weren't many lanes to shoot through

We were 10th in the league in goals for. Scoring wasn't the problem for us. Just wait until you watch him... he won't be on the PP, he simply doesn't have the skill to do it. He can't shoot the puck!! Decent wrister, but you need better than that on the PP. I'd also expect a fair number of SH breakaways if he's playing the point with his footspeed from a stand still.

I'm a HUGE Schenn fan, I want to to succeed with you guys (I've also spent hundreds on Schenn memorabilia and jerseys haha), but he's a stay at home defensive defenseman, doesn't have the skill for the PP.

**1908_Cubs** · 06-23-2012, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by blujaysrock

We were 10th in the league in goals for. Scoring wasn't the problem for us. Just wait until you watch him... he won't be on the PP, he simply doesn't have the skill to do it. He can't shoot the puck!! Decent wrister, but you need better than that on the PP. I'd also expect a fair number of SH breakaways if he's playing the point with his footspeed from a stand still.

I'm a HUGE Schenn fan, I want to to succeed with you guys (I've also spent hundreds on Schenn memorabilia and jerseys haha), but he's a stay at home defensive defenseman, doesn't have the skill for the PP.

Bingo.

**Claude28Giroux** · 06-23-2012, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by blujaysrock

We were 10th in the league in goals for. Scoring wasn't the problem for us. Just wait until you watch him... he won't be on the PP, he simply doesn't have the skill to do it. He can't shoot the puck!! Decent wrister, but you need better than that on the PP. I'd also expect a fair number of SH breakaways if he's playing the point with his footspeed from a stand still.

I'm a HUGE Schenn fan, I want to to succeed with you guys (I've also spent hundreds on Schenn memorabilia and jerseys haha), but he's a stay at home defensive defenseman, doesn't have the skill for the PP.

Thanks. I like when fans get along

I didnt think hed play on the PP anyway because I think Gus will play it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpNJH9bQXAo
Is this the best offensive thing we will see from schenn?

**castan_b** · 06-23-2012, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by blujaysrock

We were 10th in the league in goals for. Scoring wasn't the problem for us. Just wait until you watch him... he won't be on the PP, he simply doesn't have the skill to do it. He can't shoot the puck!! Decent wrister, but you need better than that on the PP. I'd also expect a fair number of SH breakaways if he's playing the point with his footspeed from a stand still.

I'm a HUGE Schenn fan, I want to to succeed with you guys (I've also spent hundreds on Schenn memorabilia and jerseys haha), but he's a stay at home defensive defenseman, doesn't have the skill for the PP.

maybe last year you were #10 ... but the 2 years before were a bit of a struggle

**Claude28Giroux** · 06-23-2012, 07:08 PM

Guys, I think I found what weve all been wanting to see for awhile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WIje...feature=fvwrel

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