MJ and Kobe DID NOT Win By Themselves!

[Nikeman]

Can we please please please clear this misconception up?

I keep seeing Bulls/Lakers and other fans posting LeBron is a coward, because he could not win himself. That is utterly false and disgusting to see.

Michael Jordan's cast-

Scottie Pippen: A ****ing legend in his own right. Nough said. PIPPEN guarded the best perimeter player of other teams, not Jordan which i am 99% sure helped him out a ton.

Dennis Rodman: One of the toughest mofos of all time, and amazing rebounder

Horace Grant: Pretty much averaged a double-double

Steve Kerr: Amazing 3 pt shooter

Tony Kukoch: Amazing 3 pt shooter/scorer

B.J. Armstrong- A double digit scorer on a consistent basis


Kobe Bryant's Teams:

Shaq- Nothing needed here, although I will add, that KOBE rode Shaq's back to 3 titles, as SHAQ was the finals MVP each time and KOBE was second fiddle.

D-Fish: Clutch PG

Etc etc.

In fact, Kobe is so selfish he ran Shaq out of town because he realized he was second fiddle.

So what happens?

For I believe 2-3 years, the Lakers are not even relevant UNTIL they get Pau, who at the time of being acquired was probably the MOST SKILLED and BEST post player in the league.

What's my point?

Stop with the bull that LBJ could not win by himself, because I can argue that Kobe and Jordan's teams were even BETTER than this Heat team that won last night.

What the difference? Cleveland provided LeBron with players like Antwan Jamison and Anderson Vaerjao, while Chicago and LA brought in superstars to pair with Jordan and Kobe. So please stop with this nonsense that LeBron can't win by himself, because nobody has or will.

I feel like PSD is a bunch of 10 year old idiots that know nothing about the history of basketball, or basketball itself.

I am sure this thread will not even get many comments, because people only like to read what sides with them and not facts.

[CB29]

larry and magic didn't win by themselves either... wilt and kareem and bill as well... only one that won by himself was hakeem...

[Nikeman]

I am 99% sure, if Cleveland could provide LeBron with a case like Chicago provided MJ and LA provided Kobe, he'd still be in a Cavs jersey and they would have not one but multiple championships already.

[KB-Pau-DH2012]

Amnesty Kobe.

[Nikeman]

larry and magic didn't win by themselves either... wilt and kareem and bill as well... only one that won by himself was hakeem...

Exactly, just better proves my point.

Everyone pretty much had superstar players with them by their side.

Agreed that Hakeem can be argued as doing it by himself in 1994, but Kenny Smith was a decent PG, and Otis Thorpe helped him out a ton averaging a double double and made their front line dominant. Vernon Maxwell also a good player.

[Nikeman]

Amnesty Kobe.

Sure as heck would save the Lakers from a player that jacks like nobody else.

[KB-Pau-DH2012]

Amnesty MJ.

[Swashcuff]

larry and magic didn't win by themselves either... wilt and kareem and bill as well... only one that won by himself was hakeem...

Add Rick Barry to that list. I bet off the top of your head you can't name anyone else on that 75 Championship team.

[Hellcrooner]

larry and magic didn't win by themselves either... wilt and kareem and bill as well... only one that won by himself was hakeem...

and Barry.

But they still had valuable teamates to make important ROLES in winning.

[Nikeman]

Add Rick Barry to that list. I bet off the top of your head you can't name anyone else on that 75 Championship team.

Jaamal Wilkes and Butch, ik my basketball son.

But yea, Rick Barry did win it without much help.

Anyone, I don't care if people hate LeBron, but saying he is a coward is dumb.

[Immoknight]

Jaamal Wilkes and Butch, ik my basketball son.

But yea, Rick Barry did win it without much help.

Anyone, I don't care if people hate LeBron, but having an opinion that is different than mine is dumb.

There yah go, I fixed that for you... I think he is a coward.

So, which of those guys bailed on the team that drafted them to go play with another superstar... I think I missed that part... so that your argument is more than...

"Your opinion is different than mine about what is a coward... but yours is clearly dumb. CHANGE IT NOW! WAH!"

[Nikeman]

There yah go, I fixed that for you... I think he is a coward.

Cool good for you.

Because Melo' and Amare' ain't going anywhere and NY is a disaster and will be for a long time, your just mad.

[AWC713]

larry and magic didn't win by themselves either... wilt and kareem and bill as well... only one that won by himself was hakeem...

ehh rockets had some very solid teams. this gets overlooked a lot. in their 95 year, they traded for clyde drexler, who was an all-star.

they had some great players on both teams. kenny smith and vernon maxwell were deadly from 3. add that to a young sam cassell and veteran mario elie and youve got yourself a good squad. not to mention, otis thorpe is one of the most underappreaciated power forwards of that generation. they simply dont win without thorpe.

those rockets teams were definately very reliant on hakeem, but not as much as say, lebron on the cavs

[Phenomenonsense]

Cool good for you.

Because Melo' and Amare' ain't going anywhere and NY is a disaster and will be for a long time, your just mad.

You're. And any player on the level of Lebron who leaves to team up with other superstars is a Coward. Wade is fine in my book. He had people come to him like the dogs they are.

And just to be clear I'm glad lebron won a ring if for no other reason than people will stop talking about it so much. (Who am I kidding, not it won't ). I'm just glad he failed as a Cavalier, being a fan of Detroit myself.

[ManRamForPrez24]

People think those two won by themselves?

People think anyone has ever won by themselves?

News to me...