Is Kobe overpaid?

[dnewguy]

In 2011-12, NBA teams paid $1.9 billion for 990 regular season wins. This means that the cost per win was $1.946 million. Given the cost of each win and knowing both how many victories each player produced and his salary allows us to see which players were overpaid.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--ko...overpaid-.html


The yahoo article had Kobe at #2 of most overpaid, and Rashaad lewis as #1. Many of us will agree that Joe Johnson and Lewis are overpaid but is Kobe overpaid? The yahoo assessment is skewed because they are judging by wins but in reality, there are only a few players that can put people in the sits everywhere they go and that includes Kobe. Kobe's value goes beyond wins IMO, he is actually underpaid considering he puts people on the sits, he helps sell nba merchandise and also he's the face of NBA in China.


Your thoughts..............

[Wade>You]

In the free market, no.

In today's NBA, good luck trying to build a team around him that can win a title.

If I were the Lakers, I'd amnesty him and try to re-sign him the next chance they get. (obv have to wait a season before they can do that)

[kozelkid]

In the free market, no.

In today's NBA, good luck trying to build a team around him that can win a title.

If I were the Lakers, I'd amnesty him and try to re-sign him the next chance they get. (obv have to wait a season before they can do that)

Do you honestly believe Kobe would ever consider coming back if they amnestied him? Get real.

With that said, I agree with your assessment as far as your value of Kobe. I think amnestying him is not a bad idea. Moreover, doing it if they can also get Howard to agree to sign an extension and start building around him. Although, I do think Kobe's worth makes him still possible to be traded. Unfortunately, the backlash that that team would get for amnestying or even dealing Kobe would be way too much to do it.

To answer this thread, I'd say Kobe was underpaid like virtually every other superstar player before the new CBA. Now he's overpaid though with all the new limitations put.

[jpro611]

Yeah he's overpaid but if I was a lakers fan id gladly endure some non-championship seasons after bringing 5 rings

[Riveramk2]

No

He still produces, hes box office, he sells a crap load of merch, people still go to LAL games to see kobe play

The lakers make far more revenue off kobe then what they are paying for kobe so just because of that he isnt over paid

[netsgiantsyanks]

amnestying kobe will result in riots, as will trading him.

[Ebbs]

In the free market, no.

In today's NBA, good luck trying to build a team around him that can win a title.

If I were the Lakers, I'd amnesty him and try to re-sign him the next chance they get. (obv have to wait a season before they can do that)

[Hawkeye15]

Of course he is overpaid, but that happens when you are a superstar in a big market that has helped bring them championships. No player is worth over half a 15 man roster's salary cap. In a business sense, it is easier to make an argument that he is not overpaid since he probably generates more than his salary for his team, and the NBA. But when you look at how it helps the product, ie, the Lakers, Kobe's contract has for sure become an issue.

[JerseyPalahniuk]

No

He still produces, hes box office, he sells a crap load of merch, people still go to LAL games to see kobe play

The lakers make far more revenue off kobe then what they are paying for kobe so just because of that he isnt over paid

There's no question that he is the #1 source of revenue for the Lakers fan base for winning purposes under a salary cap he is definitely overpaid.

For the 2012-13 season his salary will be: $27,489,000
For the 2013-14 season his salary will be: $30,453,000

Kevin Durant in that two year time span? $36.2 million
Lebron James in that two year time span? $36.5 million

Yes, he is overpaid

[justinnum1]

Of course. Goes right back to the whole loyalty thing. Does he deserve what he is being paid? Depends how you look at it, on the court?, no, but for what he has done for the franchise?, yes.

[-Kobe24-TJ19-]

no to Marketing standards.

yes according to NBA salary cap.

[Riveramk2]

There's no question that he is the #1 source of revenue for the Lakers fan base but winning purposes as a TEAM he is definitely overpaid.

For the 2012-13 season his salary will be: $27,489,000
For the 2013-14 season his salary will be: $30,453,000

Kevin Durant in that two year time span? $36.2 million
Lebron James in that two year time span? $36.5 million

Yes, he is overpaid

Well those2 is a bad comparison considering kobes on his what? 3? 4? 5? Contract. The longer in the league the more your gonna make its simple. When kd/lbj hit 30+ and get maxes they will recieve the pay kobe recieves. When shaq was on his lst conract with LA/miami that he was making 30 mil plus because of the cba and how many times he re uped his deal is a better comparison considering shaq was leaving his prime

Durants on his 2nd contract and lbj is on his 4th...when lbj finishes his curret contract and IF he decides to re up with miami he will make the figures kobe is making




This is a very simple thread

If your a FAN: of course kobe is overpaid he takes up (i want to say) more than half of he cap all fans want to win so of course FANS wont want to spend half there cap on one player when making a 12 man roster

If your a BUSINESS: kobe isnt overpaid because hes there #1 source of revenue and he makes more for the lakers than what the lakers are currently paying for him. When your revenue exceeds expenses then you doing a great job of running your BUSINESS and kobe isnt overpaid because hes worth more as far as merch/box office goes than his current contracts

Its really that simple

Fan point of view: of course kobe is overpai

Businss point of view: kobe isnt overpaid becase hes the business #1 source of income and he generates more money than his contract. So hes not over paid

[Blazers#1Fan]

In the free market, no.

In today's NBA, good luck trying to build a team around him that can win a title.

If I were the Lakers, I'd amnesty him and try to re-sign him the next chance they get. (obv have to wait a season before they can do that)

if they amnestyed him he'd retire before he could come back to the Lakers its more then 1 year why do you think Brandon Roy cant come back to portland for 3 years it could be more then that though

[koreancabbage]

all basketball players are overpaid.

[KB-Pau-DH2012]

Amnesty Kobe!