NFL turns over bounty evidence - a SLIDESHOW of quotes

[nolafan33]

The evidence the NFL provided to New Orleans Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma on Friday in no way links the player to any "bounty" program, according to his lawyer, Peter Ginsberg.

The league, per rule, had to provide evidence for the basis of its discipline toward four suspended current and former Saints players by Friday since they have appeals hearings before NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in New York on Monday.


Ginsberg said the majority of the evidence centers around a PowerPoint slideshow of former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams' directives and speeches to players. Ginsberg said there is other evidence besides the slide show, but none of it links Vilma, Will Smith, Scott Fujita or Anthony Hargrove -- all suspended for part or all of the 2012 season by Goodell -- to putting bounties on opposing players.

The “evidence” produced by the NFL also includes the rambling 10,000-plus word online manifesto posted on May 31 by Sean Pamphilon, and a June 6 article by Mike Triplette of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, in which he interviews linebacker Scott Shanle.

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
"Jonathan after years of dedication and hard work deserved better. This is another black eye on the reputation of the NFL." - Ginsberg

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
"There are no credible witnesses who could substantiate the commissioner's allegations," Ginsberg said.

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
The NFL apparently did not provide a list of witnesses it plans to call at Monday's hearing. Ginsberg said that's because they don't exist.

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
The paucity of evidence is *no* surprise, Ginsberg said. "This confirms what we know to be true: there was no bounty system."

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
Ginsberg, Vilma attorney: "To suggest the players are being presented with any kind of a fair hearing based on what was presented today is pure fantasy.

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
Ginsberg: "Unfortunately, what it says to me is Commissioner Goodell has made a dreadful mistake."

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
Peter Ginsberg, Jon Vilma's lawyer for Monday hearing and lawsuit against commish Goodell, excoriated what NFL furnished on Friday.

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
Vilma attorney on $10,000 allegation: "There can be no credible evidence about that because it never happened."

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
Former Saints DL Anthony Hargrove got 8 game suspension for allegedly lying. Source says there is zero evidence provided on that charge.

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
"There is nothing about 'cart-offs', nothing about 'knock-outs,' according to a source familiar with the documents.

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
Again, both of those did not exist at the time Commissioner Goodell imposed his discipline on the players.

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
Another source confirms that NFL provided May 31 on-line Pamphilon screed and June 6 @TripTP article from TP.

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
"Half of the pages are completely worthless," one source said.

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
Multiple sources now say: NFL cache may reflect some payment violations of CBA, but zero evidence Saints tired to hurt opponents

1h James Varney ?@jvarneyTP
Trying to remain constantly neutral in this as reporter. But how can 'evidence' include stuff that did not exist when Goodell decided?

[NormSizedMidget]

Back and to the left.

Back and to the left.

Back...and to the left.

[NormSizedMidget]

"I want to express my sincere regret and apology to the NFL, (Saints owner Tom Benson) and the New Orleans Saints fans for my participation in the 'pay-for-performance' program while I was with the Saints," stated Williams, the only suspended non-player not to appeal. "It was a terrible mistake, and we knew it was wrong while we were doing it. Instead of getting caught up in it, I should have stopped it. I take full responsibility for my role. I am truly sorry. I have learned a hard lesson and I guarantee that I will never participate in or allow this kind of activity to happen again."

In the same article. Doesn't admit bounties though.

[OREcoast49er]

In the same article. Doesn't admit bounties though.

****ing hater

[NormSizedMidget]

Isn't James Varney that Ernest guy?

And he's dead. This whole article is FAKE!! FAKE TWITTER FROM THE GRAVE.



All this is so far is a bunch of lawyer's hyperbole without actually seeing the evidence.

[nolafan33]

In the same article. Doesn't admit bounties though.

It's also proven that this statement was constructed by the NFL because they didn't like Gregg William's original one.

[NormSizedMidget]

Link?

Isn't this just what some lawyer said in the opening of this case? I'm not sure what is being proven here...

[nolafan33]

Writes Triplett: “According to a source close to Williams, the NFL has also misrepresented what Williams said in interviews with the league. According to the source, Williams never admitted a ‘bounty program’ was in place and that the league ‘rephrased his statements to satisfy its needs.’ The source also said Williams never identified any players for their involvement in a pay-for-performance or bounty program.”

And the difference is, for the first time today the NFL disclosed it's "evidence" to the players, NFLPA, and their lawyers including Mr. Ginsberg.

[NormSizedMidget]

I think I'll wait a bit longer before I say anything else. It sounds pretty one sided at this point.

If there was really nothing, no suspensions would have happened.

[Davidgta1]

Haha....wheres the 50,000 pages of evidence? Lol

[Patsfan56]

This article serves up about as much intellectual integrity as would Snooky in a discussion about theories in molecular biology. "Evidence", "manefesto", and no link tell us everything we need to know about the objectivity of this thread. I see no reference to anythng relevent to actually putting forth the evidence from the NFL as the thread implies, only quotes from an attorney representing a player. Just as objective-asking Rush Limbaugh about illegal immigration and call the discussion complete once his tirade ends.

[PhillyFaninLA]

This article serves up about as much intellectual integrity as would Snooky in a discussion about theories in molecular biology. "Evidence", "manefesto", and no link tell us everything we need to know about the objectivity of this thread. I see no reference to anythng relevent to actually putting forth the evidence from the NFL as the thread implies, only quotes from an attorney representing a player. Just as objective-asking Rush Limbaugh about illegal immigration and call the discussion complete once his tirade ends.

To add to the bolded and twitter quotes

[billsftw]

Haha....wheres the 50,000 pages of evidence? Lol

so your disputing that it happened?

[JeffG20]

so your disputing that it happened?

no, but you'd think with all of the supposed evidence that it shouldn't even be an issue to show.

[billsftw]

no, but you'd think with all of the supposed evidence that it shouldn't even be an issue to show.

ok so a team admits it happened, and yet they shouldn't get punished because the league does not have evidence of it. Yet they admitted they did it.