Having a full season of Dickey would be something contending teams who lose out on Hamels would be lining up at the door for.
Teams will pay through the nose for good pitching given the new CBA rules regardless of contract and regardless of age.
If we're not competing next year, and at the deadline some team goes haywire and throws us a big offer for Dickey.. Then Okay. I'd do it.
But trading him in the winter, when we figure to compete in 2013, is totally silly and borderline insane. The Pirates wouldn't even do something that stupid. You think they are going to trade Burnett this winter? That has as much chance of happening as us trading Dickey. Zero.
Reyes leaving left a sour taste in my mouth because we could have traded him and gotten a lot. I know we wouldn't get as much for Dickey because he is older but I do think we can get something more valuable than draft picks.
Keeping him is a win and trading him is fine with me too. It's the losing him for virtually nothing part that I'm worried about. To me, the safer bet would be to trade him since I don't expect a season like this from him ever again.
I definitely could be wrong though, but this season is just too remarkable. In my mind its not 100 percent out of the realm of possibilities that we get good players back, especially since teams will be bitter about losing out on Hamels.
Last edited by Vintage; 06-14-2012 at 01:53 AM.
I'll take my chances on what we do have next year: A shot to win 90+ games with one of the best #2's in the game for $5 million. Rather than a couple mid-level prospects that more often than not, do not amount to a hill of beans. We have prospects. When you have a chance to win now, you do not sacrifice it away to win in 2-3 years.
Unless some team is dumb enough to give us a Bundy-type prospect, it should never be done.
If you're going to trade him, why not do it mid-season? I'm not saying I would, but if you decide to then do it now. His value is never getting higher.
He is going to have a good season no doubt abut it, but there's no way he finishes this season with 25 win and a 2.2 ERA which is what he's on pace for. Plus you would get the extra half season on the contract as value towards the trade.
Mets can lose 30 in a row until the deadline.. they aren't trading Dickey or anyone else that can contribute next year.
I think of Dickey as young because knucklers can last a long time, and he's got the best one I've ever seen. It's not outrageous to think he can go another 10 years since he throws it so hard.
Skeptics have been saying that he's having a fluke season for three years now. At some point you have to man up and realize he's the real deal. I have my worries about him pitching in the cold and the elements, but he looks more like a legitimate ace every day. Being a knuckleballer means that he's not at the end of his career like most 37-year-old pitchers would be. For all we know he'll be pitching when he's 47.
Trading him would be stupid. He's an ace-type pitcher, a huge fan-favorite, and part of the long-term solution. You don't trade that away for a bunch of maybes.
Johan, on the other hand...
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