Like us on Facebook


Follow us on Twitter





Page 1 of 21 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 311
  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Queens NY
    Posts
    429
    vCash
    1500

    Best Pitcher in NY? Sabathia or Santana

    I'm in a debate with one of my friends on who the best pitcher in NY. I feel as though Santana Before and After Surgery is a better pitcher. Sure he doesn't pitch in the AL and doesn't have the win. But Wins are an emtpy statistic that doesn't measure true value of a player. And Sabathia plays for the high scoring Yankees.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    On The Block
    Posts
    29,887
    vCash
    1500
    It's CC and it's not all that close.

    Coming soon to a TKRO stadium near you

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    3,858
    vCash
    1500
    /thread

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Land of Lincoln
    Posts
    111
    vCash
    1500
    CC every time. Ask this question in 2004 and the answer would be different.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    22,692
    vCash
    1000
    It has to be CC. Answer might have been more debatable a few years back.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Garden City, NY
    Posts
    710
    vCash
    1500
    Neither.... it's Mariano Rivera

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    148
    vCash
    1500
    RA Dickey is the best... In my opinion

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    St. Simon's Island
    Posts
    6,642
    vCash
    1500
    CC Without any doubt in my mind.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    293
    vCash
    1500
    lol of course Yankee fans are going to say CC. I think its very close you would have to debate each year individually.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    148
    vCash
    1500
    Quote Originally Posted by Machinehead View Post
    RA Dickey is the best... In my opinion
    However, to answer your question I say to tell your friend he is wrong and you are right. CC isnt great by any means. The only reason he gets so much hype is cause he plays for the big market Yanks. His ERA is over 3 almost every year. He gets wins because of his teams offense. Johan pitches with NO RUN SUPPORT from the Mets. Besides for the no hitter, when he pitches he usually gets the loss 2-1, or 3-2. If Santana pitched for the Yankees he would have 20 wins every year. Thank you for dissagreeing with your friend, i wish more people would think like you.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Caracas - Venezuela
    Posts
    3,845
    vCash
    1500
    Dickey.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Chestnut Hill, MA
    Posts
    23,556
    vCash
    1500
    Im obviously biased but all these people saying "CC and its not close" are absolutely nuts. it's absolutely close, but Johan wins. Johan was better before injuries and major shoulder surgery, and he's better right now. CC, on a medium market team that scores less runs than the Yankees, is viewed as a solid #1-2 pitcher. He's an "ace" cause he plays in NY and he gets a ton of wins. That's it.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CHj0dMkK6A

    New Video. Isles season highlights 2011-12!

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    24,272
    vCash
    1500
    I don't understand the "CC Sabathia and it isn't close argument."

    Statistically Johan is very close to him or better than him in every category other than Wins.

    Johan has better WHIP, better ERA, less walks, less hits, more CG, and etc. His IP is lower but he has also thrown less pitches. Johan has been statistically better than CC this year, CC has been rather hittable.

    And you did not even include R.A. Dickey who is up there in SO, WHIP, ERA, Wins, IP, and etc. He has been fantastic and has actually gotten better every year in these past three. So this is no aberration either.

    I'd say CC, Johan, and R.A. are all up there for best pitcher in NY.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    St. Simon's Island
    Posts
    6,642
    vCash
    1500
    Johan hasn't had a season with a WAR over 5.0 since 2006

    CC hasn't had a season with less than 5.0 WAR in that span, including 3 years with over 7 WAR.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    No, You Can't Invade My Butthole
    Posts
    12,907
    vCash
    1500
    Cc.

Page 1 of 21 12311 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •