Reports are Nash has removed Toronto from his list of teams he'll "OK" a trade to. IIRC the remaining teams would be....New York, Boston, Los Angeles & San Jose.
New York - IMO the Favorite to land Nash. They have a history of making big off-season splashing i.e. Drury, Gomez, Richards, Gaborik
Boston - Has the pieces but would they be willing to move some major pieces from the roster? Most here say NO, I'd like to explore it (as we've debated)
Los Angeles - I don't expect them to make a run at Nash. They do have the goaltending that Columbus is looking for, outside of that I'm not sure they want to make an major change to their line-up.
San Jose - The Dark Horse of the Nash sweepstakes. San Jose is not shy about making major deals i.e. Thornton, Heatley, Burns. I think they have the pieces to pull it off but they say Couture is off-limits and he'd be a key pieces for Columbus.
With the Leafs me "taken off" and LA not seeming like a likely landing place does this drop the value for Nash? I think New York will make a strong run at Nash and you may see Boston be in it simply to drive the price up. San Jose could say ****** IT and move Couture in hopes that Nash is that pieces they need.
All I know it this is going to get very interesting this off-season
There are many more teams involved than that. I don't think the B's are involved in it all that much. I've heard the Hurricanes and the Flyers as well.
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"Portzline believes the NY Rangers appear the most likely fit, while San Jose, Philadelphia, Toronto, and Carolina apparently have “considerable interest” in Nash, though the Blue Jackets asking price is believed to be high, perhaps too high according to some GMs. Their asking price could include “help at Nash’s position at forward”, and doesn’t preclude a defenseman"
We don't have the assets to trade fro him and continue being an elite team. We need to focus on building our juniors depth. Even getting Nash any injury at the forwards or defense will cripple us because we have no depth in the minors to step in
Once again that Kaberle trade has bitten us in the ***, yeah for winning the cup but we lost a lot of assets since our juniors basically are unproven or just suck
just read this
if Rangers are offering that for him....well good luck with that
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Like I said before, I wouldn't over pay for Nash. If the Rangers what to throw the house a Columbus for him great. Nash (IMO) is still a great player and could be elite with better talent BUT I wouldn't give up an insane package for him.
We just don't have the kids to be able to make those big moves. NY to me is nuts if they want to do that trade, but unless they win it this year or net that will be a very costly trade
We needed a replacement for Horton and we had nothing to trade.
It sucks but we have nothing but our NHL guys. Trading for Nash to me just seems like we will trade two B+ for an A. Doesn't solve any problems because we still need to find a winger for the third line and maybe some depth on the D.....Oh and cap space
Well I don't think a trade for Nash would cost all your prospects. In the off-season thread you want to play are youth and you could plug Knight or Spooner in there (who ever doesn't get traded). That D IMO is pretty much set, I'm not sure where were going to add to it. The cap isn't as much of an issue as people make it out to be. If the upper limit stays at $70 million then the B's could take on that big contract.
But it won't be 70's or they would have just continued the current CBA, they had that choice for 1 more year and the NHL refused it
How can you truly say 2-5 years, Lucic made the team out of camp and he was a second. One of those guys could have been a hit just as much as a project.
The assets are still bodies that we could have used to make moves. Colbourne couldn't crack a T.o roster because there coaching staff are idiots. Kadri can't even make that team. And please don't tell me any of their current roster centers are better than both
That first rounder/plus the 2011 first rounder we could have packaged last year for a 2nd line winger. Our 2nd we could have packaged to move up or for something if PC felt the need
We don't have those so we are already minus. With the rest we don't let any rookies play because we have no room for them so we don't know what they could actually do. Our AHL team has been garbage for a while, some of our youth might be really good but they can't show it in the AHL because they have nobody to play with and no real shot and making the bigs. That's why I don't mind if Horty is on IR for a while. Gives the shot at somebody to step up or at least show some skill and maybe his stock rises in the eyes of other team (like Wheeler)
How many late 1st/2nd rounders crack an NHL line-up their draft year? Guys like Lucic don't happen every single year and on a different team he might not have cracked the line-up.How can you truly say 2-5 years, Lucic made the team out of camp and he was a second. One of those guys could have been a hit just as much as a project.
The average prospect takes 2-5 years to develop and even then there is no guarantee that they turn into anything.
Unless those bodies are top prospects or can make the NHL what kind of moves can they really bring you? I'm not going to say that their other centers are better but IF those guys were head and shoulders above everyone else they'd be playing.The assets are still bodies that we could have used to make moves. Colbourne couldn't crack a T.o roster because there coaching staff are idiots. Kadri can't even make that team. And please don't tell me any of their current roster centers are better than both
Huh? What 1st rounders are you talking about?That first rounder/plus the 2011 first rounder we could have packaged last year for a 2nd line winger. Our 2nd we could have packaged to move up or for something if PC felt the need
This is what it comes down to. Would you rather have....
A) Prospects or assets to trade?
B) Stanley Cup?
I'll take B and I'm sure 99.9% of people would. We traded 3 unknowns for a proven NHLer that helped win a Cup.
We played two rookies the year we won the Stanley Cup, last year almost the entire team came back. Where were we supposed to put rookies? Our AHL team has been awful cause all our talent has been either in the NHL or the CHL. This season there are a few guys coming up that will help but honestly the AHL is just a place for kids to work on parts of their game.We don't have those so we are already minus. With the rest we don't let any rookies play because we have no room for them so we don't know what they could actually do. Our AHL team has been garbage for a while, some of our youth might be really good but they can't show it in the AHL because they have nobody to play with and no real shot and making the bigs. That's why I don't mind if Horty is on IR for a while. Gives the shot at somebody to step up or at least show some skill and maybe his stock rises in the eyes of other team (like Wheeler)
Meant Colborne as the other first we could have traded
I like trading unknowns for NHL caliber players, but we don't have any unknowns to trade right now that are worth anything.
See but your missing something, top prospects come up to play top line minutes, we need a rookie to fill in the third line. Caron played very limited games at the beginning of the year, Pou was NEVER going to be a top liner he had that chance and failed, Caron still has that chance but he didn't have the confidence, so when Horty got hurt he could have moved up to the second line. But CJ didn't trust him because he stop playing rookies. We don't have anybody in the minors to step in. At least nobody that the big team feel confident in and thats a very big problem
When McQ went down which D could step in? We had to go out and get two more useless older guys
You can't just make trades and hope to god nobody gets hurt. We need to be able to deal with injuries. That was our biggest problem last year, when we won the cup nobody got hurt and we had Seguin to step in (Who played the whole year). They forgot that a we got burned for it in the playoffs
That's why I hope as much as we feel Sauve Arniel Caron, aren't ready we play them and deal with the growing pains. The rest of the team is good enough to win the season with those kids screwing up. Come playoff time that experience could help us win another cup
I said I would do that deal 10/10 because we won the cup
We had assets to give at that point
Now we don't because we gave up those assets. If we had those assets that we traded 2 years ago, last year we could of made moves. I like trading for NHL caliber players when we have assets to give up, but we don't play anybody enough to show case any skill or find somebody that might surprise us.
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