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    Who will go in the off-season (Offseason Thread)

    I think Del Zotto being 21 will stay. Too much upside. I think Dubinsky might have saved himself with his game last night. Gaborik to me is on the way out. He's a bad playoff performer and it's obvious. I also think despite his Ottawa series that Boyle is on his way out. He really doesn't fit the team. He's very slow. His value might be up after this early playoff success.

    I would package Boyle, Gaborik, Thomas, Zuccarello and a 1st for Nash. Nothing more. That would give Columbus 3 first round picks, they replace the offense they lose with Nash by getting Gaborik, a checking center in Boyle and a scoring 3rd line wing. I think that is more than enough. Of course, the GM of Columbus is insane and won't do that.

    I never liked them offering up J.T. Miller for Nash because he is more of what this team needs. He skates well, is excellent on faceoffs and is in the Cally mold. Boyle is slower than whale crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by averymustgo View Post
    I think Del Zotto being 21 will stay. Too much upside. I think Dubinsky might have saved himself with his game last night. Gaborik to me is on the way out. He's a bad playoff performer and it's obvious. I also think despite his Ottawa series that Boyle is on his way out. He really doesn't fit the team. He's very slow. His value might be up after this early playoff success.

    I would package Boyle, Gaborik, Thomas, Zuccarello and a 1st for Nash. Nothing more. That would give Columbus 3 first round picks, they replace the offense they lose with Nash by getting Gaborik, a checking center in Boyle and a scoring 3rd line wing. I think that is more than enough. Of course, the GM of Columbus is insane and won't do that.

    I never liked them offering up J.T. Miller for Nash because he is more of what this team needs. He skates well, is excellent on faceoffs and is in the Cally mold. Boyle is slower than whale crap.
    ok, first off, i appreciate you posting this, only for the fact that it sparks discussion, but that being said i disagree with nearly everything you posted.

    scratch that - THIS is first off...its not the offseason. we have to lose again to be the offseason, and i honestly dont have so little faith in this team to think for a second that we wont force game 7.

    k, so: to start, i agree that DZ stays. he has reverted to Del Zaster in this Devils series, but he has grown a lot and has a lot of upside. he'll be fine, plus the prospect of Eminger/Woywitka/Stralman/Bickel being replaced by Erixon and God willing, Sauer our D is solid straight through.

    Dubinsky, I agree, played well. I think he will continue to play well and it will play him right off this team. He's a great forechecker and has goal scoring potential, but that isnt worth 4 million dollars a year and management will probably get what they can for him in a trade this offseason.

    Gaborik is probably not going anywhere. he makes too much, and don't forget that his 40 goals on an offensively challenged team are a large part of why we even got the placement in the east that we did. its not like anyone else was setting the world on fire.

    if you get rid of Boyle, who consistently wins those incredibly important defensive zone face-offs, dives in front of every shot, and is a well-liked locker room guy for 2 million? they dont grow on trees. yea, hes slow...not every team has a lineup of scorchers. you need some role players and he is a very very big one.

    i doubt we'll go after Nash. we need someone like him, but id rather see us sign Parise to a Gaborik-like deal as a future replacement to Gabby, he plays North American hockey, likes Torts, is friends with Step and McD...and he scores.

    anyway. just my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by averymustgo View Post
    I think Del Zotto being 21 will stay. Too much upside. I think Dubinsky might have saved himself with his game last night. Gaborik to me is on the way out. He's a bad playoff performer and it's obvious. I also think despite his Ottawa series that Boyle is on his way out. He really doesn't fit the team. He's very slow. His value might be up after this early playoff success.

    I would package Boyle, Gaborik, Thomas, Zuccarello and a 1st for Nash. Nothing more. That would give Columbus 3 first round picks, they replace the offense they lose with Nash by getting Gaborik, a checking center in Boyle and a scoring 3rd line wing. I think that is more than enough. Of course, the GM of Columbus is insane and won't do that.

    I never liked them offering up J.T. Miller for Nash because he is more of what this team needs. He skates well, is excellent on faceoffs and is in the Cally mold. Boyle is slower than whale crap.
    I stopped reading right there.

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    I'm not even thinking about an off season yet,we have games to play Friday and sunday nights

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    Please save the negativity for the offseason......
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    I never though of gaborik for nash but that would be great. Just because I personally like powerful players, we are too small.

    Gaborik and package for nash.
    -MDZ stays but needs to step up.
    -Fetenko and rupp go
    -Not a fan of boyle, stralman, or eminger they go

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    Who will go in the off-season (Offseason Thread)

    Mdz needs to be punched in his huge ****ing nose. The guy is a complete liability.

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    trading a 21 year old defenseman is equivalent to trading zubov when we did. all there is too it.

    we're not gonna change much, we're gonna add more depth to our bottom 6, maybe acquire one skill player. the fact that the devils 4th line outplayed ours was a big factor there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfan89 View Post
    trading a 21 year old defenseman is equivalent to trading zubov when we did. all there is too it.

    we're not gonna change much, we're gonna add more depth to our bottom 6, maybe acquire one skill player. the fact that the devils 4th line outplayed ours was a big factor there.
    agreed, we should have added more depth at this years trade deadline. The playing style of the team takes a huge toll on the players, and it was very noticeable in the playoffs.
    A guy I really wanna see them pursue is Shane Doan, he personifies everything this team is about. He's physical, he plays defense, kills penalties, and can score 20 goals. He would also add a much needed veteran presence in the locker room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisound15 View Post
    agreed, we should have added more depth at this years trade deadline. The playing style of the team takes a huge toll on the players, and it was very noticeable in the playoffs.
    A guy I really wanna see them pursue is Shane Doan, he personifies everything this team is about. He's physical, he plays defense, kills penalties, and can score 20 goals. He would also add a much needed veteran presence in the locker room.
    I don't know that it's that the style tired the team out over the course of the season. I think it's more about talent.

    The style we played during the regular season was playoff type hockey - grind it out, play defensive, limit opportunities, block shots, play physical and out work your opponent. Most teams aren't willing to play that style night after night during the season. Where we were short on talent, we made up by rarely getting out worked.

    But, the playoffs are different. Every team plays that same style, so we no longer had our one advantage ...

    Look at what Ottawa did against us - after game one, they changed their approach, and probably out played us the rest of the series.

    Washington did the same - they controlled the puck and blocked almost as many shots as we did (that wasn't their MO during the regular season).

    With teams playing playoff style hockey, we were really at a disadvantage, because while we could still play that tough, physical style, we struggled offensively more than any other team.

    Think about it .... other than Game 1 against Ottawa, we never scored more than 3 goals. Far too offensively challenged. And unless Hank got a shutout, there were never any easy wins - every game was a battle to the end (including all his shutouts). And how many of the 3 goal efforts were really only 2 goals with an empty net (2 or 3 I think).
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    I think we'll find out that we had more injuries than we let on, I'm looking at Callahan, Gaborik, Richards, DZ, Girardi, McDonagh and especially Boyle when I say that. Having said that, I think we'll be kicking the tires on Nash and Gaborik will be the bait in that deal. I think the time to cut our loses with him is now. I love the guy, but he just isn't gonna give you everything, every shift. We will not be trading Mcdonagh, Delzotto, Staal or Girardi from our D, anyone else is up for grabs on D. Richards, Callahan, Kreider, Prust, Stepan, and Boyle aren't going to be shopped,but ofcourse everyone has their price and this team needs some scoring.
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    people who want to trade gaborik need to get real. He scored 41 goals this year, third most in the nhl. Those type of players don't grow on trees, so i think it's a little premature to give up on the guy. Nash has topped 40 goals once so it would be an awful idea to trade gaborik plus prospects for nash. Ill admit gaborik struggled in the playoffs, but who didnt? Should we get rid of richards and callahan and stepan too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYG4Life View Post
    people who want to trade gaborik need to get real. He scored 41 goals this year, third most in the nhl. Those type of players don't grow on trees, so i think it's a little premature to give up on the guy. Nash has topped 40 goals once so it would be an awful idea to trade gaborik plus prospects for nash. Ill admit gaborik struggled in the playoffs, but who didnt? Should we get rid of richards and callahan and stepan too?
    I think the point about Gaborik is that 41 scores in the regular season is a different story when there's more room to work.

    It's a different game in the playoffs, where there's less space, and you have to be willing to work harder to succeed. There were way to many shifts and games where he wasn't willing to compete at the level necessary to win playoff games. And that's the problem and where I think it's fair to question if he's the right guy for this team.

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    I understand that Gaborik had a bad playoffs minus that 3OT goal but I would argue with out his 41 goals in the regular season we aren't the #1 seed in the and wouldn't have been in the position to get to the conference finals. So let's not give up on gaborik just yet but we definitely need to add more scoring whether it's Parise, Nash, or even a guy like jordan staal or iginla

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYG4Life View Post
    I understand that Gaborik had a bad playoffs minus that 3OT goal but I would argue with out his 41 goals in the regular season we aren't the #1 seed in the and wouldn't have been in the position to get to the conference finals. So let's not give up on gaborik just yet but we definitely need to add more scoring whether it's Parise, Nash, or even a guy like jordan staal or iginla
    I did not realize that Gaborik only has two years left on his contract. I do not know what we would be able to get for him, but if we are able to land another top liner and keep him, then you are not going to be able to improve too much more than that.

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