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    the fact that the bengals who are short on offensive weapons especially at wr cut him...should send up some real red flags

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewhouse94 View Post
    Bengals waived Jordan Shipley... Would love to bring him in for a look really wanted that guy on draft day. If healthy i think hes a stud slot receiver and a decent return man.
    He's not healthy. Still having problems with his knee following the ACL tear last season. Most likely the reason he was cut.

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    Wonder if i can push my luck with another player i have always like but that should probably start doing roids again, the Bills Released Shawne Merriman today would it be worth taking a flier on this guy?

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    ^^^

    well, frankly, we need all the pass rush we can get ... this D-Line seems to get some pressure but no impressive sacks so far

    ive seen flashes from Daniel Te'o-Nesheim and George Johnson but were still missing that "x factor"
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    Dom's gone after him twice already, so it wouldn't shock me. But Merriman doesn't really strike me as a Schiano guy. Also, what role would he have? I guess 3rd down pass-rush specialist...? Watson already fills that role, and Black, who may eventually lose his starting spot to Watson, would probably take over as a situational pass-rusher(because that's about all he's suited for).

    I just don't see Merriman as an option at this point. But I am wrong more often than not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucc4life View Post
    ^^^

    we need all the pass rush we can get frankly ...
    But I can't argue with that.

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    You never know. I remember hearing that Dominik really wanted him a few years ago.

    edit: TKiv beat me to it.

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    One thing our D really could use is some Swagger and if Merriman is even 80% of what he was in SD he would really help us in that regards even if its just on 3rd down.

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    ^^^At this point, who knows where he's at? He's clearly not 100%. But even 80% might be pushing it. The guy just hasn't been able to stay on the field the past 2 seasons (he's missed all but like 25 over the past 4), and his production/effectiveness was already in question prior to that due to the steroids suspension. We'd be taking a flier at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewhouse94 View Post
    One thing our D really could use is some Swagger and if Merriman is even 80% of what he was in SD he would really help us in that regards even if its just on 3rd down.
    Unfortunately whatever swagger Merriman had is gone. I'd love to have the player that he was, but I doubt he ever gets back to that form again. It's a shame.

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    Shawn Merriman minus steroids equals zero productivity.

    I was talking about this earlier today. The only athlete whose on steroids/off steroids production compares to Merriman is Brady Anderson when he hit 50 homeruns for the Orioles and was never heard from again after he got off of the juice.

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    Heres what I know....he has not been the player he used to be. He will never ever be that disruptive, one of the best defensive players in the league guy ever again.

    He may still have something left in the tank, nobody knows. He claims to be in the best physical shape and healthier than he has been in years.

    One thing I will clear up....is the WRONG assumption by most that he did nothing while not on steroids.

    He claimed that it was a tainted supplement(Who knows)

    The fact is though, that was at the beginning of his second season...He continued to play at that All Pro level through the end of his 3rd season...after that he fell off because of his knees. He had a ton of trouble with them in the past four years. People WRONGLY associate his demise with his steroids but that was a year and a half after the suspension/

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    All I said was that his production was called into question after the steroid suspension. I've looked at his career numbers; his best season was the year of the suspension. The point is, the failed drug test is a red flag. His production at or around the time of his suspension will always be scrutinized, even the following year when he also put up big numbers. But do you see what I'm getting at? The statement (sorry 81), "Shawn Merriman minus steroids equals zero productivity" is obviously not true. We all know that steroid use/abuse doesn't exactly promote long-term health, so it's not like his chronic knee problems started when he came off the juice. But the fact is that with most folks, his stats will always come with an asterisk and/or a question mark; even, and most especially, those from 2006-07.

    I do agree with you however, his knee issues probably had more to do with his decline than anything else.

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    He has feet issues, not really knee issues. I used to work at Road Runner Sports in San DIego. He came into the store to get set up by our feet specialist. I even helped him out a little bit with some accessories. He honestly did not buy a night splint because it came in white and not black. He said that he had to look good when he sleeps. He was not willing to do the little things to get his body into shape. Say what you want. His body was a product over performance enhanced stuff. Once he got off of it, his body did not know how to react or perform like it did when he was on it. The injuries are a side product of that, too.

    My example that he did nothing was a bit extreme. He was an all pro on the stuff and can't make a roster or stay healthy even since. I don'ty buy the coincidence. His body and, and therefore, production, are below average at best since he got clean. If they were average at best, he would make a roster.

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    Maybe we can agree to disagree.

    One thing is for sure, I'm not buying hype or swagger with 5 years worth of dust on it.

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