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    Do These Men Deserve That Much?

    I have been pointing out contracts of Packer Players and yep there are underpaid Packer players as well.
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    But this is about players that might be overpaid. If you agree or if you do not please at least give a reason to be disputed.
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    AJ Hawk 7 Million Need I say anymore...
    Tramon Williams 8.5 Million and recently on record saying he has nerve damage and it's going on 2 years and still does not know when it will be healed.
    Finely 8.7 Million Would not take a pay cut then his agent said we would for the right deal meaning what?
    Ryan Pickett 34 years old last year under contract 6.7 million. He most likely is done or plays at 35 for a way reduced amount.
    Mason Crosby Horrible year making 3.1 Million.
    John Kuhn 2.5 Million Not actually on my list but I have heard people talk about him.

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    I swear, I just hope Hawk has like 6 sacks, 4 interceptions and three fumble recoveries this year. I would laugh at how quickly opinions on him change. Is he great? No. But no team in the NFL has a great player at every position on either side of the ball. Hawk is serviceable and he's been a lifelong Packer. Give it a rest.

    Tramon Williams has been hurt. I'm not happy about how much we're paying him, but he does have the potential to be a top corner if he was playing at 100 percent. It's easy to tell that shoulder injury changed him, and he could very well be back to one hundred percent this year. The cost is worth the risk.

    Finley I agree with, but he could also break out and have a monster year. We don't need the money this year, so why not? You can't take the money with you, and there is a minimum amount we have to spend.

    Pickett is arguably the best defensive lineman we have on our entire roster. Absolutely he's worth it.

    Crosby is another example of why not pay him because you can't take the money with you. Sure, if we replace him with somebody that beats him in camp, but if not, why not pay it? You can't have a superstar at every position.

    Kuhn is a fan favorite. Football is a form of entertainment. There aren't any improvements in free agency, and the draft hasn't occurred yet.

    Would I be okay with any of these players restructuring? Yes. But cutting them? No. They have all been longtime Packers, and as I continue to say, chemistry is more important than individual names. If you can't make it better, don't break it. Or something like that.

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    Every team has guys that don't deserve what they are getting paid. Theres a good chance that all those guys you listed won't be on the team next year.

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    I think they are all overpaid. Some more and some less.
    All should probably restructure their contracts. But I don't want to cut any of them, if you suggest that

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    most NFL players are overpaid
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    More #Packers news. RT @MikeGarafolo: Packers' AJ Hawk took a pay cut today. I'm told it's not a huge one. Don't have specifics.

    A bit more happy now?

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    I'm happy he is taking a pay cut but I was hoping for more than a small one

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    I like all of them, and outside of Crsoby, don't want to see any of them go.
    But sure, right now it looks like they are making too much money. But think about when they signed the contract, they absolutely got what they are getting.
    Looking at this kind of makes me happy we didn't get Jackson. He would most likely be in this thread 3 years from now, granted probably only making $4 million, but I think you get the point.

    Our QB > Yours

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    Here is the list of players that make too much that we should cut. (Or are injury prone, aka have been injured before or missed a game in their career)

    67 Barclay, Don G/T 6-4 305 23 2 West Virginia
    32 Benson, Cedric RB 5-11 227 30 9 Texas
    55 Bishop, Desmond LB 6-2 238 28 7 California
    48 Bostick, Brandon TE 6-3 245 23 1 Newberry College
    11 Boykin, Jarrett WR 6-2 218 23 2 Virginia Tech
    75 Bulaga, Bryan T 6-5 314 23 4 Iowa
    42 Burnett, Morgan S 6-1 209 24 4 Georgia Tech
    24 Bush, Jarrett CB 6-0 200 28 8 Utah State
    18 Cobb, Randall WR 5-10 192 22 3 Kentucky
    9 Coleman, B.J. QB 6-3 231 24 1 Tennessee-Chattanooga
    83 Crabtree, Tom TE 6-4 245 27 4 Miami (Ohio)
    2 Crosby, Mason K 6-1 207 28 7 Colorado
    76 Daniels, Mike DE 6-0 294 23 2 Iowa
    77 Datko, Andrew T 6-6 315 22 1 Florida State
    62 Dietrich-Smith, Evan C/G 6-2 308 26 4 Idaho State
    88 Finley, Jermichael TE 6-5 247 25 6 Texas
    49 Francois, Robert LB 6-2 250 27 4 Boston College
    72 Gerhart, Garth C 6-1 310 24 1 Arizona State
    73 Gibbs, Joe G 6-4 315 24 1 Tennessee-Martin
    61 Goode, Brett LS 6-1 255 28 6 Arkansas
    25 Grant, Ryan RB 6-1 222 30 6 Notre Dame
    20 Green, Alex RB 6-0 225 24 3 Hawaii
    6 Harrell, Graham QB 6-2 215 27 2 Texas Tech
    26 Harris, DuJuan RB 5-8 203 24 1 Troy
    50 Hawk, A.J. LB 6-1 242 29 8 Ohio State
    29 Hayward, Casey CB 5-11 192 23 2 Vanderbilt
    31 House, Davon CB 6-1 195 23 3 New Mexico State
    Hughes, Kevin T 6-4 304 24 2 Southeastern Louisiana
    85 Jennings, Greg WR 5-11 198 29 8 Western Michigan
    43 Jennings, M.D. S 6-0 195 24 3 Arkansas State
    94 Johnson, Micah LB 6-2 265 24 1 Kentucky
    Jolly, Johnny DE 6-3 325 30 5 Texas A&M
    59 Jones, Brad LB 6-3 242 26 5 Colorado
    89 Jones, James WR 6-1 208 28 7 San Jose State
    30 Kuhn, John FB 6-0 250 30 8 Shippensburg
    70 Lang, T.J. G/T 6-4 318 25 5 Eastern Michigan
    57 Lattimore, Jamari LB 6-2 237 24 3 Middle Tennessee St.
    56 Manning, Terrell LB 6-2 237 22 2 North Carolina State
    8 Masthay, Tim P 6-1 200 25 4 Kentucky
    52 Matthews, Clay LB 6-3 255 26 5 Southern California
    22 McMillian, Jerron S 5-11 203 23 2 Maine
    91 Miller, Jordan DT 6-1 309 25 1 Southern
    54 Moses, Dezman LB 6-2 249 24 2 Tulane
    96 Neal, Mike DE 6-3 294 25 4 Purdue
    87 Nelson, Jordy WR 6-3 217 27 6 Kansas State
    74 Newhouse, Marshall T 6-4 319 24 4 Texas Christian
    23 Nixon, James CB 6-0 180 25 1 California (Pa.)
    53 Perry, Nick LB 6-3 265 22 2 Southern California
    79 Pickett, Ryan DT 6-2 338 33 13 Ohio State
    41 Powell, Chaz S 6-0 203 25 1 Penn State
    81 Quarless, Andrew TE 6-4 252 24 4 Penn State
    90 Raji, B.J. DT 6-2 337 26 5 Boston College
    28 Richardson, Sean S 6-2 216 23 2 Vanderbilt
    12 Rodgers, Aaron QB 6-2 225 29 9 California
    10 Ross, Jeremy WR 6-0 215 24 1 California
    33 Saine, Brandon RB 5-11 220 24 3 Ohio State
    78 Sherrod, Derek T 6-6 321 23 3 Mississippi State
    37 Shields, Sam CB 5-11 184 25 4 Miami (Fla.)
    71 Sitton, Josh G 6-3 318 26 6 Central Florida
    51 Smith, D.J. LB 5-11 239 24 3 Appalachian State
    44 Starks, James RB 6-2 218 27 4 Buffalo
    82 Taylor, Ryan TE 6-3 254 25 3 North Carolina
    64 Van Roten, Greg G 6-3 303 23 2 Pennsylvania
    84 Williams, D.J. TE 6-2 245 24 3 Arkansas
    38 Williams, Tramon CB 5-11 191 29 7 Louisiana Tech
    98 Wilson, C.J. DE 6-3 300 25 4 East Carolina
    99 Worthy, Jerel DE 6-2 304 22 2 Michigan State
    58 Zombo, Frank LB 6-3 254 26 4 Central Michigan

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    Hey, keep Hawk of this list. He just took a pay cut and he wasn't thrilled about it!

    tom silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein
    Hawk will have three years left on his deal and his salary cap number will drop significantly from his base salary of $5.45 million.

    tom silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein
    Hawk will have three years left on his deal and his salary cap number will drop significantly from his base salary of $5.45 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormSizedMidget View Post
    Here is the list of players that make too much that we should cut. (Or are injury prone, aka have been injured before or missed a game in their career)

    67 Barclay, Don G/T 6-4 305 23 2 West Virginia
    32 Benson, Cedric RB 5-11 227 30 9 Texas
    55 Bishop, Desmond LB 6-2 238 28 7 California
    48 Bostick, Brandon TE 6-3 245 23 1 Newberry College
    11 Boykin, Jarrett WR 6-2 218 23 2 Virginia Tech
    75 Bulaga, Bryan T 6-5 314 23 4 Iowa
    42 Burnett, Morgan S 6-1 209 24 4 Georgia Tech
    24 Bush, Jarrett CB 6-0 200 28 8 Utah State
    18 Cobb, Randall WR 5-10 192 22 3 Kentucky
    9 Coleman, B.J. QB 6-3 231 24 1 Tennessee-Chattanooga
    83 Crabtree, Tom TE 6-4 245 27 4 Miami (Ohio)
    2 Crosby, Mason K 6-1 207 28 7 Colorado
    76 Daniels, Mike DE 6-0 294 23 2 Iowa
    77 Datko, Andrew T 6-6 315 22 1 Florida State
    62 Dietrich-Smith, Evan C/G 6-2 308 26 4 Idaho State
    88 Finley, Jermichael TE 6-5 247 25 6 Texas
    49 Francois, Robert LB 6-2 250 27 4 Boston College
    72 Gerhart, Garth C 6-1 310 24 1 Arizona State
    73 Gibbs, Joe G 6-4 315 24 1 Tennessee-Martin
    61 Goode, Brett LS 6-1 255 28 6 Arkansas
    25 Grant, Ryan RB 6-1 222 30 6 Notre Dame
    20 Green, Alex RB 6-0 225 24 3 Hawaii
    6 Harrell, Graham QB 6-2 215 27 2 Texas Tech
    26 Harris, DuJuan RB 5-8 203 24 1 Troy
    50 Hawk, A.J. LB 6-1 242 29 8 Ohio State
    29 Hayward, Casey CB 5-11 192 23 2 Vanderbilt
    31 House, Davon CB 6-1 195 23 3 New Mexico State
    Hughes, Kevin T 6-4 304 24 2 Southeastern Louisiana
    85 Jennings, Greg WR 5-11 198 29 8 Western Michigan
    43 Jennings, M.D. S 6-0 195 24 3 Arkansas State
    94 Johnson, Micah LB 6-2 265 24 1 Kentucky
    Jolly, Johnny DE 6-3 325 30 5 Texas A&M
    59 Jones, Brad LB 6-3 242 26 5 Colorado
    89 Jones, James WR 6-1 208 28 7 San Jose State
    30 Kuhn, John FB 6-0 250 30 8 Shippensburg
    70 Lang, T.J. G/T 6-4 318 25 5 Eastern Michigan
    57 Lattimore, Jamari LB 6-2 237 24 3 Middle Tennessee St.
    56 Manning, Terrell LB 6-2 237 22 2 North Carolina State
    8 Masthay, Tim P 6-1 200 25 4 Kentucky
    52 Matthews, Clay LB 6-3 255 26 5 Southern California
    22 McMillian, Jerron S 5-11 203 23 2 Maine
    91 Miller, Jordan DT 6-1 309 25 1 Southern
    54 Moses, Dezman LB 6-2 249 24 2 Tulane
    96 Neal, Mike DE 6-3 294 25 4 Purdue
    87 Nelson, Jordy WR 6-3 217 27 6 Kansas State
    74 Newhouse, Marshall T 6-4 319 24 4 Texas Christian
    23 Nixon, James CB 6-0 180 25 1 California (Pa.)
    53 Perry, Nick LB 6-3 265 22 2 Southern California
    79 Pickett, Ryan DT 6-2 338 33 13 Ohio State
    41 Powell, Chaz S 6-0 203 25 1 Penn State
    81 Quarless, Andrew TE 6-4 252 24 4 Penn State
    90 Raji, B.J. DT 6-2 337 26 5 Boston College
    28 Richardson, Sean S 6-2 216 23 2 Vanderbilt
    12 Rodgers, Aaron QB 6-2 225 29 9 California
    10 Ross, Jeremy WR 6-0 215 24 1 California
    33 Saine, Brandon RB 5-11 220 24 3 Ohio State
    78 Sherrod, Derek T 6-6 321 23 3 Mississippi State
    37 Shields, Sam CB 5-11 184 25 4 Miami (Fla.)
    71 Sitton, Josh G 6-3 318 26 6 Central Florida
    51 Smith, D.J. LB 5-11 239 24 3 Appalachian State
    44 Starks, James RB 6-2 218 27 4 Buffalo
    82 Taylor, Ryan TE 6-3 254 25 3 North Carolina
    64 Van Roten, Greg G 6-3 303 23 2 Pennsylvania
    84 Williams, D.J. TE 6-2 245 24 3 Arkansas
    38 Williams, Tramon CB 5-11 191 29 7 Louisiana Tech
    98 Wilson, C.J. DE 6-3 300 25 4 East Carolina
    99 Worthy, Jerel DE 6-2 304 22 2 Michigan State
    58 Zombo, Frank LB 6-3 254 26 4 Central Michigan
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    LOL WTF............... Most are under paid besides the ones inquired about however if your meaning because they play in the NFL vs at Walmart your really on to something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombardi24 View Post
    I have been pointing out contracts of Packer Players and yep there are underpaid Packer players as well.
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    But this is about players that might be overpaid. If you agree or if you do not please at least give a reason to be disputed.
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    AJ Hawk 7 Million Need I say anymore...
    Tramon Williams 8.5 Million and recently on record saying he has nerve damage and it's going on 2 years and still does not know when it will be healed.
    Finely 8.7 Million Would not take a pay cut then his agent said we would for the right deal meaning what?
    Ryan Pickett 34 years old last year under contract 6.7 million. He most likely is done or plays at 35 for a way reduced amount.
    Mason Crosby Horrible year making 3.1 Million.
    John Kuhn 2.5 Million Not actually on my list but I have heard people talk about him.
    Okay now on a serious note.

    Hawk-Took a paycut. We complain about guys like Bishop missing time and he's always around. The best ability in the NFL is availability. He always is. Not a superstar but solid and reliable. We know what we get. Look at what freaking Walden is getting paid. Doesn't seem as crazy.

    Hawk has been someone we should appreciate. He's been released once and came back. Has been benched and came back. Has now taken a paycut. He might not be a superstar but he's been a quality team player.

    Tramon-Cut him? Maybe. But not now. We aren't going to use those millions plus we don't free that number IIRC, it's far less. If in TC we have other options and he's still hurting, cut him. Fine by me. He has zero trade value FYI.

    Finley-You pay him this year and go from there. Nothing else to it.

    Pickett-You pay him this year and release him next year. We should have his replacement by the start of the 2014 season.

    Crosby-You bring in comp and you go from there. It's funny but if you look around the league you wouldn't believe how much kickers and punters get PAID. It's nuts, he should really be replaced but if he can get it figured out, who knows. We need Tony Robbins or something.

    Kuhn-You don't do anything here until....

    A. You have someone effective in pro.
    B. You have another adequate fullback. We don't. Yet.

    If you ask me, Kuhn earns every cent of that deal considering all the things he does for us. Granted I don't want to have him out there on 3rd downs. Wish we had better options. Again, we won't do jack with that money elsewhere anyways. Zero point in doing anything there. Plus he's the quintessential Packer and has done NOTHING to warrant a release or anything.

    Draft, UDFA, FA a fullback to replace him in time.
    Last edited by Norm; 03-15-2013 at 05:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombardi24 View Post
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    LOL WTF............... Most are under paid besides the ones inquired about however if your meaning because they play in the NFL vs at Walmart your really on to something
    Well I just think we have far too many injury prone players too.

    I mean none of those guys have not been injured before. We can't have a bunch of glass players. It's why we lose every year. People get hurt.

    Think we should also fire our training staff and probably most of the scouting dept and the GM since they are clearing these sissies to be drafted in the first place.

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    If Hawk took a pay cut who we chasing? Or is it for Rodgers and CM3? Jennings?

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    Just clearing some cap space for Rodgers and Clay. Maybe for one or two FAs after the draft.

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