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    The Official Flyers 2012 Offseason Thread

    And it begins...

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    do NOT resign carle sign a top defensemen if pronger is going to be out long term again.... jagr will be gone at his number of 3 mil. I really like what wellwood brings to the game i think with more minutes next year he can provide spark for us next year. Hoprfully Bryz can work hard in the offseason to get to be a top 5 goalie we signed him to be and we can get back to work..


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    yay offseason thread time!!

    -Do not sign Carle, Kubina, or Jagr
    -Resign Voracek for a 3 million hit; Bourdon, Homstrom, Harry Z, Sestito to 2 way minor deals
    -Will have roughly 6 million in available cap AFTER Pronger's salary is buried in LTIR. Usually can only use 4-5 million of that.

    If I am GM, I want 2 things for this team: Ryan Sutter and a natural goal scorer for this team. We just dont have one. Like the role Gaborik plays for NYR. But I also want a new body at defense.

    Ryan Sutter will probably cost 7 million. We would have to dump a salary, and if its Hartnells, thats a lot of goals to replace... Briere at 6.5 million, you can basically chose, A guy that scores clutch goals in the post season, or a guy that should prevent goals all season long...

    I move Briere, sign Sutter in FA, and have 5 million to spend on a guy to score goals.

    (or you could have Rick Nash and Luke Schenn)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBronco08 View Post
    do NOT resign carle sign a top defensemen if pronger is going to be out long term again.... jagr will be gone at his number of 3 mil. I really like what wellwood brings to the game i think with more minutes next year he can provide spark for us next year. Hoprfully Bryz can work hard in the offseason to get to be a top 5 goalie we signed him to be and we can get back to work..
    The kind of "work" Bryzgalov needs is mental not physical! He's a head case and fixing that is not even a possibility. He is what he is and unfortunetly we are probably stuck with his sorry *** for the next few years at least!

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    Here's an idea, GET RID OF ***-ING BRYZGALOV!!! ... and I don't want to hear how "great" he was in the playoffs either!! He's a head case and needs to go! He's a cancer to this team!!! ..... Don't bring back Jagr either! He was useless in the playoffs! Finally, I hope Holmgren doesn't go out and waste picks or trade away a good player for Ryan Suter. We don't need a "Big name" over-paid defensemen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrooster View Post
    Here's an idea, GET RID OF ***-ING BRYZGALOV!!! ... and I don't want to hear how "great" he was in the playoffs either!! He's a head case and needs to go! He's a cancer to this team!!! ..... Don't bring back Jagr either! He was useless in the playoffs! Finally, I hope Holmgren doesn't go out and waste picks or trade away a good player for Ryan Suter. We don't need a "Big name" over-paid defensemen!


    you dont even know what "cancer" to a team means. He is not cancer to this team. You could actually argue a couple things, but he's not cancer.

    you can't just "get rid of him," if you cut him/buy him out, his salary is still on the cap. And nobody will trade for a contract that long with that much salary.

    can't wait until the hype of the playoffs are over so bandwagon contributors like yourself disappear.


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    i have to wait until the dust settles on this mess to make any real contributions to this thread. just a couple of things to point out, and things i can say.

    - bartulis.....does he finally see the NHL next year?

    - carle needs to go (although sources through the Flyers have been saying they want him back)

    - jagr needs to take a significant paycut or he needs to go; he looked worn down by the end of the devils series

    - kubina is gone

    - voracek should and will be signed

    - bob should probably be moved (although you really can't get much for him after the year he had; at this point it's mostly just to clear more salary)

    - schenn and couts need to work HARD this summer; i want to see them come back faster, stronger, and more prepared now that they have a year of NHL hockey under their belts (in particular, i want to see couts put on some weight, start adding to that big frame he has)

    - coburn and grossmann need to be the #1 pair next season. not just because they were the best defensive pairing for the team since they were put together, but kimmo is REALLY starting to show his age out there now

    - gut feeling is one of briere/hartnell/JVR is moved. i HATE to include JVR in that mix, because i really still believe in that kid. i think a full year of health could do him good. it's just a gut feeling that one (no more than 1) of those 3 will be moved




    i'm sticking to in-house stuff right now. don't wanna speculate on outside stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyeaglesman View Post
    i have to wait until the dust settles on this mess to make any real contributions to this thread. just a couple of things to point out, and things i can say.

    - bartulis.....does he finally see the NHL next year?

    - carle needs to go (although sources through the Flyers have been saying they want him back)

    - jagr needs to take a significant paycut or he needs to go; he looked worn down by the end of the devils series

    - kubina is gone

    - voracek should and will be signed

    - bob should probably be moved (although you really can't get much for him after the year he had; at this point it's mostly just to clear more salary)

    - schenn and couts need to work HARD this summer; i want to see them come back faster, stronger, and more prepared now that they have a year of NHL hockey under their belts (in particular, i want to see couts put on some weight, start adding to that big frame he has)

    - coburn and grossmann need to be the #1 pair next season. not just because they were the best defensive pairing for the team since they were put together, but kimmo is REALLY starting to show his age out there now

    - gut feeling is one of briere/hartnell/JVR is moved. i HATE to include JVR in that mix, because i really still believe in that kid. i think a full year of health could do him good. it's just a gut feeling that one (no more than 1) of those 3 will be moved




    i'm sticking to in-house stuff right now. don't wanna speculate on outside stuff.
    I agree with that. I think Carle walks and JVR gets traded for a defensive replacement. Pronger would do us a BIG favor salary cap wise if were to retire but I'm sure he's not going to walk away from the rest of his guaranteed money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrooster View Post
    I agree with that. I think Carle walks and JVR gets traded for a defensive replacement. Pronger would do us a BIG favor salary cap wise if were to retire but I'm sure he's not going to walk away from the rest of his guaranteed money.
    i'm really not sure why people keep believing this is the case. no, prongs would do us a huge favor by NOT retiring. if he retires, his money counts against the cap for the remainder of his contract. if he just stays on LTIR, it won't count against the cap.



    for the record, Randall i'm mostly speaking to you, i don't WANT JVR to get moved. i really don't. it's just a gut feeling of mine that one of hartnell/briere/JVR is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyeaglesman View Post
    i have to wait until the dust settles on this mess to make any real contributions to this thread. just a couple of things to point out, and things i can say.

    - bartulis.....does he finally see the NHL next year?

    - carle needs to go (although sources through the Flyers have been saying they want him back)

    - jagr needs to take a significant paycut or he needs to go; he looked worn down by the end of the devils series

    - kubina is gone

    - voracek should and will be signed

    - bob should probably be moved (although you really can't get much for him after the year he had; at this point it's mostly just to clear more salary)

    - schenn and couts need to work HARD this summer; i want to see them come back faster, stronger, and more prepared now that they have a year of NHL hockey under their belts (in particular, i want to see couts put on some weight, start adding to that big frame he has)

    - coburn and grossmann need to be the #1 pair next season. not just because they were the best defensive pairing for the team since they were put together, but kimmo is REALLY starting to show his age out there now

    - gut feeling is one of briere/hartnell/JVR is moved. i HATE to include JVR in that mix, because i really still believe in that kid. i think a full year of health could do him good. it's just a gut feeling that one (no more than 1) of those 3 will be moved




    i'm sticking to in-house stuff right now. don't wanna speculate on outside stuff.
    JVR returned from his broken foot way too soon I think. He was terribly slow with his cutting/turning/acceleration. And his NMC I believe kicks in July 1st, so he'd have to be moved fast. Homer traded away 2 recently signed contracts last year, doing it again this year would slaughter his reputation and no free agents would trust him, or sign here.

    Full summer off to rehab, just gotta hope JVR returns as a 30 goal scorer.

    I had a very similar list and statement in the game thread last night, but mine was Hartnell/Briere/Timonen, just one being asked to waive their NMC just like Gagne 2 years ago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Stevens View Post
    JVR returned from his broken foot way too soon I think. He was terribly slow with his cutting/turning/acceleration. And his NMC I believe kicks in July 1st, so he'd have to be moved fast. Homer traded away 2 recently signed contracts last year, doing it again this year would slaughter his reputation and no free agents would trust him, or sign here.

    Full summer off to rehab, just gotta hope JVR returns as a 30 goal scorer.

    I had a very similar list and statement in the game thread last night, but mine was Hartnell/Briere/Timonen, just one being asked to waive their NMC just like Gagne 2 years ago.
    It's unfortunate, but the fact that contracts can't be restructured really limits the moves the Flyers can make. They almost have to move Hartnell or Timmonen. Briere shouldn't go anywhere, he shows up when the real season starts, the other 2 have disappeared the past 2 Aprils.

    Timmonen should be the mostly likely to go. It will be another trade just like the Gagne trade too, we get nothing of value except the cap space. He's really showed his age late in the season, and it's happened the past few years. The drop in play hasn't as bad as O'Donnell last year, but considering he's paid to be a number 1 and playing like a number 5, it's time to pawn him off on a team that needs to reach the salary floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Stevens View Post


    you dont even know what "cancer" to a team means. He is not cancer to this team. You could actually argue a couple things, but he's not cancer.

    you can't just "get rid of him," if you cut him/buy him out, his salary is still on the cap. And nobody will trade for a contract that long with that much salary.

    can't wait until the hype of the playoffs are over so bandwagon contributors like yourself disappear.
    Aren't you supposed to be in school right now?? I have been a Flyers fan LONGER than you have been alive so let's not assume I'm a casual fan. Listen Mr. expert, a cancer to a team is EVERYTHING Bryzgalov has been! He's a distraction, he gets down on himself when he doesn't play well and he makes it public. Which adversely effects the entire team! He is an embarassment to the team and to the league with his play and his crazy comments! Now THAT my friend is a cancer!! ..... As for trading him, I know it's very unlikely but the biggest obstacle won't be his contract, it will be the fact that he's a head case and a cancer and no team wants that! It certainly is worth a shot however to try and get rid of him in the off season! ... Now that you have been schooled you can pack your lunch and get to school!

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