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  1. #52411
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    Dec 2005
    I still can't get over getting beat on our ****ing ice all 3 times. That is just down right ****ing pathetic and especially for a team that was very good at home.

    Still have a sour taste in my mouth from what should be with this talent but, we fail to achieve.

  2. #52412
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    Jul 2008

    6 Blackhawks to continue playing this summer

  3. #52413
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    May 2004
    Anyone think we will go after some of the bigger names out there this offseason?

  4. #52414
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    Mar 2007
    I don't see how we could. Right now we are about 7 mil under the cap for next year. It should be pointed out that the league is going to be negotiating a new cba, so that could change things. But assuming we are playing by the same or at least similar rules and cap, I don't think we'll be players for the big names (Parise, Suter). They are going to cost close to 7 mil themselves. The only way we get involved would be to shed some cap in deals. Bolland ($3.375), Hammer ($3.5) and Frolik ($2.33) would be the guys that could be moved without touching the core, that would free up significant money. I suppose if you moved two or three of them that we could be players in the Suter market. I just don't see it as likely.

  5. #52415
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    Chicago, IL
    Quote Originally Posted by b1e9a8r5s View Post
    UFA D

    Nicklas Lidstrom, Detroit Red Wings, $6,200,000
    Michal Rozsival Phoenix Coyotes $5,000,000
    Dennis Wideman, Washington Capitals, $3,875,000
    Pavel Kubina, Tampa Bay Lightning, $3,850,000
    Jaroslav Spacek, Carolina Hurricanes, $3,833,000
    Brad Stuart, Detroit Red Wings, $3,750,000
    Filip Kuba, Ottawa Senators, $3,700,000
    Barret Jackman, St. Louis Blues, $3,625,000
    Jeff Finger, Toronto Maple Leafs, $3,500,000
    Cory Sarich, Calgary Flames, $3,600,000
    Willie Mitchell, Los Angeles Kings, $3,500,000
    John Oduya, Winnipeg Jets, $3,500,000
    Ryan Suter, Nashville Predators, $3,500,000
    Matt Carle, Philadelphia Flyers, $3,438,000
    Bryan Allen, Carolina Hurricanes, $2,900,000
    Bryce Salvador, New Jersey Devils, $2,900,000
    Mark Eaton, New York Islanders, $2,500,000
    Joe Corvo, Boston Bruins, $2,250,000
    Hal Gill, Montreal Canadiens, $2,250,000
    Radek Martinek, Columbus Blue Jackets, $2,200,000
    Carlo Colaiacovo, St. Louis Blues, $2,125,000
    Shaone Morrisonn, Buffalo Sabres, $2,075,000
    Adrian Aucoin, Phoenix Coyotes, $2,000,000
    Sami Salo, Vancouver Canucks, $2,000,000
    Greg Zanon, Minnesota Wild, $1,933,333
    Kurtis Foster, Anaheim Ducks, $1,800,000
    Chris Campoli, Montreal Canadiens, $1,750,000
    Kurt Sauer, Phoenix Coyotes, $1,750,000
    Sheldon Souray, Dallas Stars, $1,650,000
    Nicklas Grossman, Philadelphia Flyers, $1,625,000
    Milan Jurcina, New York Islanders, $1,600,000
    Steve Staios, New York Islanders, $1,600,000
    Matt Hunwick, Colorado Avalanche, $1,550,000
    Brett Clark, Tampa Bay Lightning, $1,500,000
    Francis Bouillon, Nashville Predators, $1,350,000
    Randy Jones, Winnipeg Jets, $1,150,000
    Shane O’Brien, Colorado Avalanche, $1,100,000
    Matt Gilroy, Tampa Bay Lightning, $1,000,000
    Scott Hannan, Calgary Flames, $1,000,000
    Kent Huskins, St. Louis Blues, $1,000,000
    Brad Lukowich, Dallas Stars, $1,000,000
    Mike Lundin, Minnesota Wild, $1,000,000
    Jim Vandermeer, San Jose Sharks, $1,000,000
    Colin White, San Jose Sharks, $1,000,000
    Mike Weaver, Florida Panthers, $900,000
    Sean O’Donnell, Chicago Blackhawks, $850,000
    Steve Eminger, New York Rangers, $800,000
    Mike Mottau, New York Islanders, $800,000
    Sheldon Brookbank, Anaheim Ducks, $750,000
    Sami Lepisto, Chicago Blackhawks, $750,000
    Aaron Rome, Vancouver Canucks, $750,000
    Tyson Strachan, Florida Panthers, $750,000
    Dean Arsene, Phoenix Coyotes, $725,000
    Matt Carkner, Ottawa Senators, $700,000
    Derek Meech, Winnipeg Jets, $700,000
    Derek Smith, Calgary Flames, $700,000
    Alexander Sulzer, Vancouver Canucks, $700,000
    Jason Garrison, Florida Panthers, $675,000
    Tyler Sloan, Nashville Predators, $650,000
    Jeff Woywitka, New York Rangers, $650,000
    Dylan Reese, New York Islanders, $635,500
    Garnet Exelby, Detroit Red Wings, $600,000
    Zach McKelvie, Boston Bruins, $600,000
    Nathan Oystrick, Phoenix Coyotes, $600,000
    Mathieu Roy, Carolina Hurricanes, $600,000
    Matt Smaby, Anaheim Ducks, $600,000
    Garrett Stafford, Montreal Canadiens, $600,000
    Maxime Fortunus, Dallas Stars, $587,500
    Joe Callahan, Montreal Canadiens, $550,000
    Bruno Gervais, Tampa Bay Lightning, $550,000
    Peter Harrold, New Jersey Devils, $550,000
    Aaron Johnson, Columbus Blue Jackets, $550,000
    Clayton Stoner, Minnesota Wild, $550,000
    Nolan Baumgarner, Vancouver Canucks, $525,000
    Brendan Bell, New York Rangers, $525,000
    Sean Collins, Washington Capitals, $525,000
    Mark Flood, Winnipeg Jets, $525,000
    Dan Jancevski, Philadelphia Flyers, $525,000
    Jay Leach, New Jersey Devils, $525,000
    David Liffiton, Colorado Avalanche, $525,000
    Zach Miskovic, Washington Capitals, $525,000
    Richard Petiot, Tampa Bay Lightning, $525,000
    Corey Potter, Edmonton Oilers, $525,000
    Danny Richmond, Washington Capitals, $525,000
    Bryan Rodney, Edmonton Oilers, $525,000
    Dan Spang, Dallas Stars, $525,000
    Sean Sullivan, San Jose Sharks, $525,000
    Danny Syvret, St. Louis Blues, $525,000
    Brennan Evans, St. Louis Blues, $512,500
    Alex Henry, Montreal Canadiens, $512,500
    Doug Janik, Detroit Red Wings, $512,500
    Nathan McIver, Boston Bruins, $512,000
    Mike Moore, San Jose Sharks, $512,500
    John Scott, Chicago Blackhawks, $512,000

    Note: This is where I got the lists. Can't speak to the accuracy of them.
    Quote Originally Posted by b1e9a8r5s View Post
    UFA Forwards
    Alexander Semin, Washington Capitals, $6,700,000
    Ryan Smyth, Edmonton Oilers, $6,250,000
    Zach Parise, New Jersey Devils, $6,000,000
    Brian Rolston, Boston Bruins, $5,062,000
    Kristian Huselius, Columbus Blue Jackets, $4,750,000
    Shane Doan, Phoenix Coyotes, $4,550,000
    Daymond Langkow, Phoenix Coyotes, $4,500,000
    Dustin Penner, Los Angeles Kings, $4,250,000
    Jason Blake, Anaheim Ducks, $4,000,000
    Brad Boyes, Buffalo Sabres, $4,000,000
    Teemu Selanne, Anaheim Ducks, $4,000,000
    Jarret Stoll, Los Angeles Kings, $3,600,000
    Jochen Hecht, Buffalo Sabres, $3,525,000
    Jaromir Jagr, Philadelphia Flyers, $3,300,000
    Andrei Kostitsyn, Nashville Predators, $3,250,000
    Niklas Hagman, Anaheim Ducks, $3,000,000
    Olli Jokinen, Calgary Flames, $3,000,000
    Ales Kotalik, Buffalo Sabres, $3,000,000
    Ray Whitney, Phoenix Coyotes, $3,000,000
    Jiri Hudler, Detroit Red Wings, $2,875,000
    Jason Arnott, St. Louis Blues, $2,800,000
    Jamie Langenbrunner, St. Louis Blues, $2,800,000
    Samuel Pahlsson, Vancouver Canucks, $2,650,000
    Milan Hejduk, Colorado Avalanche, $2,600,000
    David Jones, Colorado Avalanche, $2,500,000
    Saku Koivu, Anaheim Ducks, $2,500,000
    Mikael Samuelsson, Florida Panthers, $2,500,000
    Paul Gaustad, Nashville Predators, $2,300,000
    Marco Sturm, Florida Panthers, $2,250,000
    Chris Kelly, Boston Bruins, $2,125,000
    Steven Reinprecht, Vancouver Canucks, $2,050,000
    Andrew Brunette, Chicago Blackhawks, $2,000,000
    Mike Knuble, Washington Capitals, $2,000,000
    Sean Avery, New York Rangers, $1,938,000
    Lee Stempniak, Calgary Flames, $1,900,000
    Tomas Holmstrom, Detroit Red Wings, $1,875,000
    Radek Dvorak, Dallas Stars, $1,500,000
    Travis Moen, Montreal Canadiens, $1,500,000
    Alexei Ponikarovsky, New Jersey Devils, $1,500,000
    Steve Sullivan, Pittsburgh Penguins, $1,500,000
    Jay McClement, Colorado Avalanche, $1,450,000
    Jay Pandolfo, New York Islanders, $1,400,000
    Ruslan Fedotenko, New York Rangers, $1,400,000
    Torrey Mitchell, San Jose Sharks, $1,366,667
    David Moss, Calgary Flames, $1,300,000
    Brendan Morrison, Chicago Blackhawks , $1,250,000
    P.A. Parenteau, New York Islanders, $1,250,000
    Jordin Tootoo, Nashville Predators, $1,250,000
    Ian Laperriere, Philadelphia Flyers, $1,167,000
    Kyle Brodziak, Minnesota Wild, $1,150,000
    Adam Burish, Dallas Stars, $1,150,000
    Gregory Campbell, Boston Bruins, $1,100,000
    Daniel Paille, Boston Bruins, $1,075,000
    Cody McLeod, Colorado Avalanche, $1,033,000
    Dominic Moore, San Jose Sharks, $1,100,000
    Taylor Pyatt, Phoenix Coyotes, $1,000,000
    Jim Slater, Winnipeg Jets, $1,000,000
    Daniel Winnik, Colorado Avalanche, $950,000
    Erik Christensen, Minesota Wild, $925,000
    Tom Kostopoulos, Calgary Flames, $917,000
    Scott Parse, Los Angeles Kings, $900,000
    Lennart Petrell, Edmonton Oilers, $900,000
    George Parros, Anaheim Ducks, $875,000
    Krystopher Barch, Dallas Stars, $838,000
    Colin Fraser, Los Angeles Kings, $825,000
    Alexandre Giroux, Columbus Blue Jackets, $825,000
    Jeff Halpern, Washington Capitals, $825,000
    Darcy Hordichuk, Edmonton Oilers, $825,000
    Brandon Prust, New York Rangers, $800,000
    Arron Asham, Pittsburgh Penguins, $775,000
    Toby Petersen, Dallas Stars, $775,000
    Ryan Carter, New Jersey Devils, $750,000
    Joey Crabb, Toronto Maple Leafs, $750,000
    Tanner Glass, Winnipeg Jets, $750,000
    Jesse Winchester, Ottawa Senators, $750,000
    Brandon Yip, Nashville Predators, $725,000
    Brad Wincester, San Jose Sharks, $725,000
    Blair Betts, Philadelphia Flyers, $700,000
    Byron Bitz, Vancouver Canucks, $700,000
    Darryl Boyce, Toronto Maple Leafs, $700,000
    Mathieu Darche, Montreal Canadiens, $700,000
    Bracken Kearns, Florida Panthers, $700,000
    Zenon Konopka, Ottawa Senators, $700,000
    Scott Nichol, St. Louis Blues, $700,000
    Tim Wallace, New York Islanders, $700,000
    Kyle Wellwood, Winnipeg Jets, $700,000
    Jason Jaffray, Winnipeg Jets, $675,000
    Phillippe Dupuis, Toronto Maple Leafs, $650,000
    Jean-Francois Jacques, Anaheim Ducks, $650,000
    John Mitchell, New York Rangers, $650,000
    Mark Parrish, Ottawa Senators, $650,000
    Petr Sykora, New Jersey Devils, $650,000
    Mike Zigomanis, Toronto Maple Leafs, $650,000
    D.J. King, Washington Capitals, $637,000
    Trevor Gillies, New York Islanders, $625,000
    Ryan Keller, Edmonton Oilers, $625,000
    Patrick O'Sullivan, Phoenix Coyotes, $625,000
    Ryan Shannon, Tampa Bay Lightning, $625,000
    Trevor Frischmon, New York Islanders, $615,000
    Aaron Volpotti, Vancouver Canucks, $612,500
    Marc-Antoine Pouliot, Phoenix Coyotes, $605,000
    Fabian Brunnstrom, Detroit Red Wings, $600,000
    Jonathan Cheechoo, St. Louis Blues, $600,000
    Jeremy Colliton, New York Islanders, $600,000
    Tim Conboy, Ottawa Senators, $600,000
    Mark Cullen, Florida Panthers, $600,000
    Raitis Ivanans, Calgary Flames, $600,000
    Adam Hall, Tampa Bay Lightning, $600,000
    Josh Hennessy, Boston Bruins, $600,000
    Trent Hunter, Los Angeles Kings, $600,000
    Joakim Lindstrom, Colorado Avalanche, $600,000
    Steve MacIntyre, Pittsburgh Penguins, $600,000
    Derek MacKenzie, Columbus Blue Jackets, $600,000
    Brian McGrattan, Nashville Predators, $600,000
    Ethan Moreau, Los Angeles Kings, $600,000
    Steve Pinizzotto, Vancouver Canucks, $600,000
    Chris Porter, St. Louis Blues, $600,000
    Martin St. Pierre, Columbus Blue Jackets, $600,000
    Raymond Sawada, Dallas Stars, $600,000
    Brett Sterling, St. Louis Blues, $600,000
    Jeff Taffe, Minnesota Wild, $600,000
    Brian Willsie, Montreal Canadiens, $600,000
    Jason Williams, Pittsburgh Penguins, $600,000
    Jed Ortmeyer, Minnesota Wild, $585,000
    Brad Staubitz, Minnesota Wild, $575,000
    Josh Green, Edmonton Oilers, $575,000
    Alexandre Bolduc, Phoenix Coyotes, $575,000
    Andrew Murray, San Jose Sharks, $575,000
    Mark Bell, Anaheim Ducks, $575,000
    Francis Wathier, Dallas Stars, $575,000
    Troy Bodie, Anaheim Ducks, $550,000
    Chris Conner, Detroit Red Wings, $550,000
    Tim Jackman, Calgary Flames, $550,000
    Francis Lessard, Ottawa Senators, $550,000
    Corey Locke, Ottawa Senators, $550,000
    Jamal Mayers, Chicago Blackhawks, $550,000
    Richard Park, Pittsburgh Penguins, $550,000
    Rod Pelley, New Jersey Devils, $550,000
    Greg Rallo, Florida Panthers, $550,000
    Jon Disalvatore, Minnesota Wild, $537,500
    Warren Petters, Minnesota Wild, $537,500
    Mike Angelidis, Tampa Bay Lightning, $525,000
    Matt Beaudoin, Phoenix Coyotes, $525,000
    Chris Bourque, Washington Capitals, $525,000
    Ryan Craig, Pittsburgh Penguins, $525,000
    Guillame Desbiens, Calgary Flames, $525,000
    Andre Deveaux, New York Rangers, $525,000
    Chris Durno, Carolina Hurricanes, $525,000
    Andrew Ebbett, Vancouver Canucks, $525,000
    Matt Ford, Washington Capitals, $525,000
    Ben Guite, San Jose Sharks, $525,000
    Ryan Hamilton, Toronto Maple Leafs, $525,000
    Cam Janssen, New Jersey Devils, $525,000
    Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond, Calgary Flames, $525,000
    Mark Mancari, Vancouver Canucks, $525,000
    Greg Mauldin, Colorado Avalanche, $525,000
    Brett McLean, Chicago Blackhawks, $525,000
    Colin McDonald, Pittsburgh Penguins, $525,000
    Jacob Micflikier, Washington Capitals, $525,000
    Brad Mills, New Jersey Devils, $525,000
    Chris Minard, Detroit Red Wings, $525,000
    Michel Ouellet, Tampa Bay Lightning, $525,000
    Cam Paddock, Los Angeles Kings, $525,000
    Patrick Rissmiller, Colorado Avalanche, $525,000
    Michael Ryan, Buffalo Sabres, $525,000
    Brandon Segal, Chicago Blackhawks, $525,000
    Tim Sestito, New Jersey Devils, $525,000
    Trevor Smith, Tampa Bay Lightning, $525,000
    Tim Stapleton, Winnipeg Jets, $525,000
    Colin Stuart, Buffalo Sabres, $525,000
    David Van Der Gulik, Colorado Avalanche, $525,000
    Stephane Veilleux, New Jersey Devils, $525,000
    Derek Whitmore, Buffalo Sabres, $525,000
    Keith Aucoin, Washington Capitals, $512,500
    Stephen Gionta, New Jersey Devils, $512,500
    Kyle Greentree, Washington Capitals, $512,500
    Jamie Johnson, Detroit Red Wings, $512,500
    Kris Newbury, New York Rangers, $512,500
    Quote Originally Posted by b1e9a8r5s View Post
    UFA Goalies
    Cristobal Huet, Chicago Blackhawks, $5,625,000
    Martin Brodeur, New Jersey Devils, $5,200,000
    Dwayne Roloson, Tampa Bay Lightning, $3,000,000
    Antero Niittymaki, San Jose Sharks, $2,000,000
    Chris Mason, Winnipeg Jets, $1,850,000
    Michael Leighton, Philadelphia Flyers, $1,550,000
    Dan Ellis, Anaheim Ducks, $1,500,000
    Tomas Vokoun, Washington Capitals, $1,500,000
    Jonas Gustavsson, Toronto Maple Leafs, $1,350,000
    Johan Hedberg, New Jersey Devils, $1,250,000
    Scott Clemmensen, Florida Panthers, $1,200,000
    Alex Auld, Ottawa Senators, $1,000,000
    Martin Biron, New York Rangers, $875,000
    Johan Backlund, Philadelphia Flyers, $800,000
    Ty Conklin, Detroit Red Wings, $750,000
    Josh Harding, Minnesota Wild, $750,000
    Yann Danis, Edmonton Oilers, $650,000
    Andrew Raycroft, Dallas Stars, $650,000
    Curtis McElhinney, Phoenix Coyotes, $625,000
    Al Montoya, New York Islanders, $601,000
    Ray Emery, Chicago Blackhawks, $600,000
    Brent Johnson, Pittsburgh Penguins, $600,000
    Curtis Sanford, Columbus Blue Jackets, $600,000
    Nathan Lawson, Montreal Canadiens, $550,000
    Mike McKenna, Ottawa Senators, $550,000
    Jason Bacashihua, Philadelphia Flyers, $525,000
    Matt Climie, Vancouver Canucks, $525,000
    David Leggio, Buffalo Sabres, $525,000
    Drew Macintyre, Buffalo Sabres, $525,000
    Peter Mannino, Winnipeg Jets, $525,000
    Scott Munroe, Pittsburgh Penguins, $525,000
    Dany Sabourin, Washington Capitals, $525,000
    Bolded are the players that interest me, although that doesn't mean I see us going for them. Alexei Ponikarovsky as well as Jeff Halpern and Paul Gaustad interest me for the top line LW and 4th line C spots, respectively.

  6. #52416
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    Apr 2011
    Wrigleyville, IL
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper View Post
    Guys, it isn't that I believe the marketing and the on-ice product go hand in hand, but I'm sick of the sense of entitlement this franchise has now. That extends from the ice all the way up through the front office and the marketing department led by McCub. These aren't the 2010 Blackhawks, and it's about time they stop ****ing acting like it. The Dagger is about as annoying as hearing Bowman talk about the "core." Both are a tired act.
    I'll tell you what, for what McDonough has done, he should be commended. He helped make the Blackhawk name relevant again after WWW passed.

    That being said, I do agree with you on some points. I do miss the way the stadium USED to be the "Madhouse on Madison." This place is a joke nowadays. Its an EVENT to attend now. There are people going to games now that don't know what icing is or what the hell the blue line is for, but they know the boys Toews and Kane.

    The games just lost something. In 2009 when they fought in the playoffs and lost, that was the last GOOD crowd in the United Center. Period. Ever since then, its been the place to go and be seen and wear your brand new green irish #88 jersey. The sense of entitlement is there now, and its not going away.

    ****, the years right before they drafted Toews and Kane and the team was garbage, you can get upper deck tickets for 8.00 with a student ID. My wife and i kept our college ID's and used them late into our 20's just to get into Hawk games. More of the crowd was there for the other team, and the upper deck was RARELY full.

    Then things changed, marketing took over and made them a giant. Now, those same upper deck seats cost 55+ dollars for a regular season game.

    I understand winning changes things, but 5 years ago they couldn't give away seats, now standing room spots at the bars are 80.00 for a playoff game.

    I for one, love the Hawks. Ever since I was 10 years old and went to my first game back in 1990 in the REAL MADHOUSE. This team is a steamroller of money now, it won't change. Things wont go back to "real" fans who love the game pack the stadium. Its just something we all need to accept and deal with unfortunately. Watch the game, enjoy it, and GO HAWKS!
    Mike P. ~~

    Banks - The Boxer sleeps and waits for a championship...

  7. #52417
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    Mar 2007
    I can relate. My first games were the last years in the old stadium. There was nothing like it. Something was lost when we went to the United Center. I also was in college in the area and took advantage of the $8 id with college id. Me and a buddy went to about 30+ games a year for a few years and most nights we would make it down to the to 100 level. They were some awful teams though. The top line of Arnason/Bell/Calder left a lot to be desired. Things have changed, for the better though. Sure prices have gone up and tickets are harder to get. But the Hawks are relevant and competitive again. That's a price I'm willing to pay. That being said, there are some moves that the new management team has missed on. They have their work to do going forward. But the fact that the Hawks are relevant is a great thing. They even talk Blackhawks on the sports radio now, although not always intelligently. That was absolutely unheard of 10 years ago. Sure the marketing of the team is intense, and I could care less about some of the things they do (red carpet, goal song, etc). But again it's a price I'm willing to pay to see my team in contention for the cup every year.

  8. #52418
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldChamps1908 View Post
    Anyone think we will go after some of the bigger names out there this offseason?
    Depends if Hossa is forced to retire or not. If so, Hawks go big after Parise. If not, only go big after a top d-man and a 2C, then let the kids play. Either Bolland or Kruger will be traded this offseason imo.

  9. #52419
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    Mar 2007
    Quote Originally Posted by Assman22 View Post
    Depends if Hossa is forced to retire or not. If so, Hawks go big after Parise. If not, only go big after a top d-man and a 2C, then let the kids play. Either Bolland or Kruger will be traded this offseason imo.
    If he retired, and at this point I think it's total speculation and unlikely to happen, I don't think they would go after Parise. I think they would try to change the way the team is built. Subing Parise for Hossa would be a pretty lateral move IMO and I think they would be hesitant to sign another long deal. Suter, I could see a little more, because I think they realize they need help on defense. The hawks have 6 guys with a cap hit of 5 million or more. They only have 5 guys making 2-5 million. If they found themselves with some cap room, I think they would be much more likely to try to add several guys in middle in terms of cap hit, than 1 huge cap hit.

  10. #52420
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    May 2011
    I think Stan and Co. are playing things very close to the vest right now. It seems Rocky is none too happy with the 2nd consecutive 1st round exit and changes are looming. So taking into account the final presser and some things I've read from the beats and just making some uneducated guesses, my thoughts are as follows:

    1. The Hawks will make a big push for Ryan Suter. He has ties to Chicago and is from nearby Madison, WI. Can only work in our favor right?

    2. Dave Bolland, Michael Frolik and Nik Hjalmmerson/Montador will be traded to create cap room for Suter (other salary may have to come off the books; haven't checked the numbers yet). Since this is a salary move, I doubt you get anything but picks or prospects for these players.

    3. Sign Jason Garrison/Bryan Allen/Matt Carle (insert others as you see fit). PK specialists that block shots and play physical in front of the net

    4. Corey Crawford and Ray Emery will be the opening night goalies barring any injuries to the two. The improved defense with Suter and one from above no doubt makes StanBo feel better about keeping Crawford. He was better with better D right? Right?

    5. Find a complimentary piece to Mayers. It is obvious that Mayers faded down the stretch but is a locker room gold mine. Pirri? Danault? More likely Konopka or Halpern.

    6. Assuming Stan and Q stay with Kane at center and you don't pick one up in the Bolland Frolik or Hjalmmerson deals, you're looking at a FA left winger or a prospect on the top line.

    Saad (IDK if he's ready), Toews, Hossa
    Sharp, Kane, Stalberg
    Bickell, Kruger, Shaw
    Carcillo, Mayers/Konopka/Halpern, Hayes/Morin/Beach

    Keith - Seabrook
    Leddy - Suter
    Hjalmmerson/Montador - Olsen/Point #3 from top


    Rough sketch so criticisms are always welcome.
    Last edited by ckleiner21; 05-01-2012 at 03:45 PM.

  11. #52421
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    Mar 2007
    I still wonder if they are going to make a push at Suter. I haven't heard anything other than fan conjecture. But, as you mentioned, I haven't heard much of anything from StanBo in general. I wouldn't think they'd go for another big deal, but maybe they would.

  12. #52422
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    May 2011
    Quote Originally Posted by b1e9a8r5s View Post
    I still wonder if they are going to make a push at Suter. I haven't heard anything other than fan conjecture. But, as you mentioned, I haven't heard much of anything from StanBo in general. I wouldn't think they'd go for another big deal, but maybe they would.
    I can't say I disagree with this. The window is closing with the core in the next 5 years or so. Toews and Kane are hitting their prime and Sharp and Keith are in the middle of theirs and Seabrook is getting better every year. Hossa is hitting the back side of his. I think Wirtz knows this and and wants to win as many Cups as possible. I think the lack of anything really valueable in the presser means a couple of things. Some philosophical differences are getting ironed out (hopefully) and the Hawks are trying to keep an upper hand on any negotiations that will happen by not letting their hand slip out.

  13. #52423
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    May 2008
    Quote Originally Posted by b1e9a8r5s View Post
    I still wonder if they are going to make a push at Suter. I haven't heard anything other than fan conjecture. But, as you mentioned, I haven't heard much of anything from StanBo in general. I wouldn't think they'd go for another big deal, but maybe they would.
    I think you go all in for Suter. Hawks are flush in young forwards, let the kids play and gain experience. Goalies are locked in now but I wouldn't mind them adding another backup goalie to stash in Rockford. Re-sign Mayers and Bollig too.

    As is, the Hawks are at $57.5 million and the cap is expected to rise to $66-67 million for next season. Say it's only $66 mil, then they have $8.5 mil if they don't trade Bolland or Kruger, in which one will most certainly go. Also, not all of these young guys will make the big club and Saad needs to be relegated to the AHL at least for a couple months. No need to rush him, let him develop accordingly.

    Need a couple d-men, one for the top 4 and one for the 3rd pairing. Need a 2C or top 6 forward. Other than that, fill the holes with the young guys and keep moving forward. Will be interesting to see where Carcillo ends up in the line pairings.

  14. #52424
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    I just went to Hockeybuzz to get some cap info to post in here and saw this from JJ. This is the first I've actually heard anything about the Hawks and Suter.

    Ol' JJ can never leave well enough alone.

    So, building on a rumor I first heard after the Hawks' last roadie to Nashville, I did a little poking around the last couple of days with sources in Chicago and Madison.

    The Hawks might very well be in on Ryan Suter. And those who pshaw or have Suter ticketed for Detroit or Vancouver might well take heed.

    Suter might want to be in the Indianhead next season.

    First, a highly placed individual told a source of mine that the Hawks would be/will be very interested in Suter should he reach unrestricted free agency. Then, I heard this morning that Suter will likely not stay in Nashville; Suter's father would very much like to have his son playing closer to home in Madison. And there is no NHL arena closer to Madison than the one that sits at 1901 W. Madison Street.

    Further, Suter's uncle Gary was a Hawk for a number of years, very much enjoyed his time here and maintains ties to the Wirtz family.

    How will the Hawks afford another $7 million or so on their blueline? Well, for a team that struggled so much keeping the puck out of its own net, the counter argument can be made: how can they afford not to?

    Because of his contract and the number of superior goalies available this summer, Corey Crawford likely isn't being dealt. So you improve the defense. What this would likely mean is the departure from Chicago of Johnny Oduya and Niklas Hjalmarsson. Those two salaries roughly equal what the Hawks would pay Suter. So there you go.

    With Suter or Brent Seabrook as a partner, the idea of Nick Leddy on the second pairing suddenly doesn't feel so bad.

    I am also hearing that Dave Bolland, with the emergence of Marcus Kruger this past season and the possible arrival of Philip Danault (think: Mikhail Grabovski with some Bolland thrown in) as early 2013-14, could be ticketed elsewhere this summer as well.

    I was told this morning last week's press conference was somewhat "scripted" to avoid delving into some of the changes on the horizon.

    There are going to be significant changes this summer, as I've been saying all along. The pending CBA issue might be what's holding things up— or perhaps Rocky Wirtz is still taking stock.

    More as I have it.

  15. #52425
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    I love . Jaeckel's articles are always friggin awesome
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