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    The New Stadium News Thread (2)

    The other New Stadium thread has reached over 1,000 posts so as is the custom around PSD here's the new thread.

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    Hopeful the republicans balk at gambling being included in the bill doesn't derail this thing.

    One group wants this added, then another group doesn't like what was added, then another group doesn't like either......it's just a bunch of nonsense.

    I still don't get how politicians have no idea what an investment is

    Thankfully a lot of CEO's are getting involved from Target, etc
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    this thing is dragging on and on. get it done.

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    When the big time labor leaders, and the big time business leaders are down at the capitol advocating the same thing, it's a good sign a deal can get done.

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    Vikings stadium bill faces one more hurdle before floor votes
    A week ago, Commissioner Roger Goodell and Steelers owner Art Rooney II flew to Minnesota and helped resurrect the then-dead Vikings stadium bill.

    The bill currently is ready for a vote before the full Minnesota House of Representatives. The only obstacle for a vote on the floor of the Senate is the Senate Tax Committee, which currently is considering the measure.

    One member of the Senate Tax Committee is Senator Scott Dibble, who has been pressing the Vikings for the disclosure of comprehensive financial information.

    Even if the bill makes it to the floor of each chamber of the Minnesota Legislature, the funding formula could screw things up. Many Republicans oppose any expansion of gambling, which currently is the designated procedure for raising the state’s contribution of roughly $400 million.

    And still looming is the question of whether the proposed bill violates the Minneapolis City Charter via the manner in which it raises the local $150 million share.

    One way or another, an answer is coming soon. Folks on both sides of the debate should continue to make their voices heard.

    It also may help the Vikings if mammoth rookie Matt Kalil pays a personal visit to each of the legislators who continue to oppose the measure. Or a couple of gangsters sporting helmet horns in their fedoras.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-floor-votes/

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    It also may help the Vikings if mammoth rookie Matt Kalil pays a personal visit to each of the legislators who continue to oppose the measure. Or a couple of gangsters sporting helmet horns in their fedoras.


    “I can’t wait to stand on the podium with Zygi and Mark and Jonathan, and we’re standing on the podium, and we look up and the confetti is falling down on top of us, and we’re all hand in hand, and Commissioner Goodell comes over and hands the Super Bowl trophy to Mr. Wilf and tells him he’s world champion, that is my goal and that is my drive.”
    - Mike Zimmer

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    Give us a stadium!!!!!!!!!!!

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    What Is Dead May Never Die: Minnesota Vikings Stadium Bill Moves To Senate Floor
    The Minnesota Vikings stadium bill crept closer to approval, as it passed through the last committee hearing before getting voted on in both houses.

    In a sometimes contentious hearing, marked by stall tactics and at one point a committee recess immediately followed by the committee reconvening (lolwut), the bill passed on a 7-6 vote, moving to the floor with no recommendation by the committee.

    Senator Julie Rosen, stadium bill author in the upper chamber, has said she has the votes to ensure passage, and as of this writing, it looks like the Minnesota Senate will vote on the bill sometime tomorrow. There is no schedule on when the House of Representatives will vote, but Rosen is 'confident' that there are enough votes in the House to assure passage as well.

    Although the bill passed, Sen. John Marty tried just about every legal maneuver in the book to try and kill it. In the end, though, the vote was taken and it passed, and that's the important thing.

    Look, I get that there are passionate feelings about this on both sides of the aisle, but what I don't get is why some people, like Sen. Marty, do everything in their power to try and kill the bill and prevent it from even getting to a vote. Are they afraid it will pass?

    Either way, there are still a lot of hurdles to face on this. First off, remember that these are two similar, but separate bills. Both the House and Senate must pass their versions. From there, the bills will go into a conference committee, where the two bills will be merged into one, identical bill. Then that final bill will go back to the House and Senate to be voted on again. If it passes those votes, then Governor Dayton will sign the bill, and we will have a new stadium.

    But for tonight, we celebrate. I can't decide what is more impressive, the first three picks of the draft, or the that the stadium bill, after more than a decade of squabbling, stalling, and delay, is finally thisclose to getting approved.

    SKOL!
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    Vikings get what they wanted: Full votes in House and Senate
    After the Vikings stadium bill died in the Minnesota Legislature, the NFL mobilized, urging the politicians to at least subject the measure to a vote before the House and the Senate.

    The team and the league will get what they wanted, even if it means that the full votes result in no new stadium for the Vikings.

    The Associated Press reports that the bill, already poised for a vote on the House floor, emerged from the Senate Tax Committee late Friday night by a vote of 7-6, after a contentious hearing.

    The stadium bill is now expected to face “marathon” sessions and close votes in the House and Senate before the legislative session ends at midnight on Monday.

    This one could still go either way. We’ll have a final answer within the next two days.
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    If the Vikings move, Minnesota will never get another team, get it done!
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    Minnesota Legislature: Little progress on stadium, taxes, bonding
    The Minnesota Legislature is stumbling toward what increasingly looks like an untidy and perhaps prolonged end to its session.

    By Saturday night, April 28, Republican legislative leaders and Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton had made little or no progress on the three big outstanding issues: a Vikings stadium, tax relief and a public works bonding bill.

    Although leaders of the House Democratic-Farmer-Labor minority offered to put up half of the votes needed to pass the stadium bill, Republican House Speaker Kurt Zellers said he decided not to bring it up for a vote on the House floor because proponents told him they didn't have the votes to pass it.

    House and Senate leaders have pledged floor votes on the stadium bill, but neither house voted on it Saturday before ending for the night. Balloting will be delayed at least until Monday when they return.

    Zellers said the House Republicans' top priorities were to provide tax relief, especially for small businesses, and to pass a bonding bill to repair roads and bridges, flood-control structures, sewer systems and other infrastructure. They hoped to pass tax and bonding bills before voting on the stadium.

    Dayton said their desire to move tax and bonding legislation should not delay action on the stadium bill. "The stadium bill should not be held hostage to anything else," he told reporters during a mid-afternoon news conference.

    Zellers said GOP leaders had not met with Dayton in a couple of days to negotiate the tax and bonding bills. He called the lack of serious bargaining "very surprising and very disappointing."
    House Majority Leader Matt Dean, R-Dellwood, said, "The governor has broken off all negotiations."

    But Dayton told reporters he had been in "constant communication" with GOP leaders by phone and through his staff and DFL legislative leaders.

    "He has been here and been ready and willing to meet. They (Republicans) have not requested a meeting," Dayton spokeswoman Katie Tinucci said.

    The bickering over negotiations masked sharp divisions between Dayton and the Republicans over taxes and bonding. GOP leaders want deep tax cuts that the governor contends the state cannot afford, and he wants a much larger bonding bill than they are willing to pay for.

    Zellers thinks the governor and Republican leaders could work out a deal. He accused House DFL leaders of sabotaging the tax and bonding talks so they could portray this as a "do-nothing Legislature" in their campaigns.

    Both House and Senate leaders say there will be no floor session on Sunday.

    If lawmakers were to vote on the stadium Monday, they could not adjourn that day, as leaders have planned. The state constitution bars the Legislature from passing bills on the day it adjourns for the year, so the earliest they could shut down and go home would be Tuesday.

    While leaders had set an April 30 deadline to end the session, the Legislature can legally go until May 21.

    Zellers said he thought Republicans and Dayton were close to a tax agreement. He said GOP leaders were ready to accept a Dayton proposal to provide an upfront sales tax exemption for capital-equipment purchases by businesses, and they had several other tax breaks on the table.

    Meanwhile, a House-Senate tax conference committee was meeting late Saturday night to draft a Republican tax bill to send to Dayton in case they don't negotiate an agreement. The governor almost certainly would veto that bill.

    Zellers said he would be willing to keep the Legislature in session an "extra day" if that's what it takes to hammer out tax and bonding agreements.
    http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci...onday-deadline

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    Legislators are stuck on taxes, bonds and Vikings
    Senate GOP leader won't bring stadium up without a global deal.
    Minnesota legislators limped Saturday into the final days of the session with no signs of a global agreement on major issues, and with the Minnesota Vikings stadium proposal hanging in the balance.

    Legislators dragged themselves back to the Capitol for a rare weekend floor session to see if there was any hope for a last-minute deal that would satisfy Republicans' push for business tax relief and DFLers' desire for a sizable bonding package.

    The nearly $1 billion Vikings stadium plan barely survived its last committee stop Friday night, and Senate Majority Leader David Senjem said he would not bring it to a floor vote without a global agreement on the other issues, potentially dooming the stadium this year.

    "We want to get that tax package nailed down before we go ahead with that," the Rochester Republican said. "We've gotten further apart as we've gone through the week. We thought we were close to something, but as we kept talking, they unfolded a bit."

    Signaling how difficult it could be to reach an overall deal, DFL Gov. Mark Dayton emerged from his office Saturday afternoon to say Republicans must compromise or risk having the session implode.

    "I learned last summer their view of compromise is doing things their way," Dayton said, referring to the three-week government shutdown. "That's just not going to work this time."

    Saturday evening, House leaders announced that the night's agenda would not include a stadium vote.

    House GOP leaders said action on tax reductions and capital projects were higher priorities for Republicans than the stadium, which they consider the governor's top priority. Speaker Kurt Zellers, R-Maple Grove, said he's not sure that the stadium has enough votes to pass the House, but didn't rule out a floor vote before adjournment.

    Things fall apart

    Legislative and administration sources said that Dayton and GOP leaders were working toward a wide-ranging deal earlier in the week that included a roughly $500 million bonding bill and some business tax relief. But when DFL legislative leaders were brought in to provide crucial votes, they insisted on a larger bonding bill than the GOP was willing to accept.

    "If it's small, it's just political cover for the Republicans without actually accomplishing what we want to accomplish," said Rep. Ryan Winkler, DFL-Golden Valley.

    The two sides are in the midst of a dicey political dance to see exactly how far the governor would go on tax breaks vs. how large a bonding bill Republicans could manage to support.

    Republicans have pushed hard for elimination of the statewide business property tax, which many conservatives would view as a significant victory. But that could require tapping the state's emergency budget reserves, and Dayton is loath to draw down reserves to pay for tax breaks.

    Republicans acknowledge that their tax breaks could have steep costs to the state budget in coming years, potentially causing deeper deficits in future budget cycles, but say the tradeoff would be an economic boon.

    For Dayton and the DFLers to swallow tax reductions, they want a larger bonding bill, a signature component of their job-creation agenda. For Republicans, some of the toughest negotiations have been with their own members.

    Several House Republicans said they could probably scrape together enough GOP votes for what they call a "vanilla" bonding bill of $500 million. Money would go solely to roads, bridges and maintenance of state buildings, including the Capitol.

    But the more conservative GOP legislators started peeling off rapidly with every additional dollar in new projects.

    Bonding bills require a super-majority that the GOP can't muster without DFL help. DFLers say their price is closer to $700 million, too large to garner enough GOP votes to be viable. In the Senate GOP caucus, some rank-and-file members insist that no bonding bill and no stadium deal are better than bad ones.

    Sen. Dave Thompson, R-Lakeville, said he favors a bonding bill smaller than $300 million that avoids new projects.

    "There seems to be this sense that in order to get re-elected, I have to have the Dave Thompson memorial hockey arena," he said. "I think what people expect is that we use bonding money to make sure we have enough lanes on our roads, that we repair the potholes on our existing roads and we take care of our buildings."

    Dayton and DFLers have said that historically low interest rates and high unemployment in construction call for a bill that will invest in the state and kick-start job creation.

    What to tell voters?

    Anxious legislators -- all up for re-election this fall -- were figuring out how to sell to constituents a legislative session that ends with few accomplishments. The final days of the session could weigh heavily with voters when they decide whether the GOP should retain control of the House and Senate or whether DFLers should return to power.

    Rep. Tom Anzelc, DFL-Balsam Township, said he sees his political fate tied in part to the Vikings stadium.

    "If there is no bonding bill and no tax bill, I think it is a wash," said Anzelc, who could face a tough re-election fight in his redrawn district. "If there is no stadium bill, in my district in northern Minnesota, that's a bad thing."

    Anzelc said he hopes to get bonding for two local projects: a new headquarters for area volunteer firefighters and a building at Itasca Community College.

    Sen. David Hann, R-Eden Prairie, said he thinks Minnesotans are falling prey to the emotional frenzy to keep the Vikings.

    "I have talked to many fans, and they don't know the details of this plan, and they don't care. They are advocating for something, but they don't have a clue about the details and what that means," Hann said.

    While leaders huddled privately to see if a deal is possible by Monday's self-imposed deadline, rank-and-file legislators wearied by late-night sessions began sharpening their attacks.

    DFLers "are making every effort to block everything that is important this year, to say on the campaign trail that the majority couldn't get anything done and they are a do-nothing Legislature," said Assistant Senate Majority Leader Claire Robling, R- Jordan. "It is disgraceful."

    DFLers said Republicans, when in the minority, long talked about providing leadership. Now they have to prove they have the political smarts to make the concessions needed to attract DFL votes.

    "If legislators don't do their jobs, that's a problem and they are going to face the wrath in the fall," said Rep. Rick Hansen, DFL-South-St. Paul. "I think the public has higher expectations than failure."
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    Vikings stadium bill bogged down by politics
    As the Vikings stadium bill moves closer to becoming a done deal, the measure apparently is being caught in the gears of broader deal-making.

    Mike Kaszuba of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune explains that the stadium bill essentially has become a bargaining chip for other political objectives. As to the stadium effort, Republicans are believed to be tying the final passage of the bill to Democratic Governor Mark Dayton’s “willingness to agree to business tax relief and a smaller state bond package.”

    Also lingering is the funding issue, with disagreement as to whether the public contribution will come from gambling or “user fees,” with charges imposed on “tickets and stadium signs to the Vikings’ share of television revenue.”

    It’s not clear where things will go from here. The legislative session is due to end on Monday night, but it can be extended.

    Plenty of folks likely would prefer that it just end, one way or the other.
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    Vikings stadium: No vote expected today at Capitol
    Gov. Mark Dayton said Monday afternoon that no more progress had been made between him and legislative leaders on the Vikings stadium issue than on taxes or bonding.

    What discussion there was on the stadium in the two-hour meeting was mostly procedural, he said, and not on the content of the bills.

    His sense from GOP leaders, he said, is "they want a resolution on the tax bill before they're going to bring up the stadium bill, and I think the chances of it passing with bipartisan support requires that.

    "I believe that the stadium bill deserves an up or down vote in both the House and the Senate regardless of what happens with anything else. That's not a view that's entirely shared," the governor said.

    Both the House and Senate sponsors of the stadium bill said Monday they didn't expect a vote today.
    House Speaker Kurt Zellers, R-Maple Grove, said the fate of the stadium issue along with the tax and bonding bills - the three major issues standing in the way of adjournment - should be clearer after the 1:30 p.m. meeting today between Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton and Republican legislative leaders.

    "We'll see at 1:30," Zellers said when asked about the potential of adjourning Monday, which has been his target date.

    But neither Zellers nor any of the four legislative caucus leaders came out to speak with the media after their afternoon meeting with Dayton.

    Zellers and Senjem were scheduled to speak with the media at this afternoon.

    Morrie Lanning,

    R-Moorhead, sponsor of the stadium bill in the House, said he does not expect a vote on the bill today and predicted the legislative session would extend at least through this week.
    "I don't think there's any question" the session won't adjourn today, Lanning said, because lawmakers need time to resolve the key issues.

    "It's not going to happen today, it's not going to happen in the next couple days. I fully expect that if we take a break here and come back on Thursday or Monday, that's a possible scenario," Lanning said. "I've been saying for a long time I expected the session to run through the rest of this week."
    "I'd like to be done today," Zellers said Monday. But if that doesn't happen, "we're going to finish early no matter what." The Legislature is required to adjourn by May 21.

    Asked if Zellers had assured him there will be a stadium vote even if there's no resolution on the tax and bonding bills, Lanning said no.

    "I'm sure he wants an agreement on a bonding bill, the tax bill before we take up the stadium. That's the impression I've certainly gotten. And I understand that, because I want to see a bonding bill, I want to see a tax bill too," Lanning said.

    Lanning repeated Monday that he believes there are 34 Republican votes to pass the stadium bill in the House -- half the number required for passage.
    Zellers has said he wants to be certain of the count so the bill doesn't come up and get voted down. "We'll probably talk about that in caucus again," he said of Lanning's estimate.

    Asked about the possibility of user-fees funding the state's portion of the stadium, Lanning said he invites ideas but that "if somebody thinks we can pick up the whole tab here with user fees, that's unrealistic."

    Lanning's counterpart in the Senate, Julie Rosen, R-Fairmont, said Monday she also believes there won't be a vote on the stadium bill today.

    Lanning said he remains optimistic overall.

    "This has been a roller-coaster ride. One day it looks hopeless, another day it looks possible. I'm hopeful, but we still have quite a ways to go."

    Asked Monday morning about the status of the stadium bill, Dayton said: "It's still breathing, they're still in session, so anything can happen."
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    With stadium issue not resolved, Minnesota Legislature extends session
    The Minnesota Legislature was supposed to end its annual session on Monday. It had the prerogative to extend the session into May — and it did.

    That’s good news for the Vikings, the NFL, and the proponents of a new stadium. If the session had ended Monday, it most likely would have ended without a last-minute compromise on a stadium deal.

    So now the Legislature can continue for a few more weeks, as the stadium deal continues to be a poker chip for other things that other politicians want.

    Meanwhile, all members of the House and Senate face re-election in 2012. They’d surely like to get to work on keeping their part-time jobs.

    For better or worse, how they handle the stadium issue will have far more of an impact than any number of cute babies they kiss or ugly wire-and-cardboard signs they can plant in front yards.
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