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    Jeff Bagwell '94 v. Albert Pujols '03

    Which season was more impressive?
    Bagwell:
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    PA 	AB 	R 	H 	2B 	3B 	HR 	RBI 	SB 	CS 	BB 	SO 	BA 	OBP 	SLG 	OPS 	OPS+
    479 	400 	104 	147 	32 	2 	39 	116 	15 	4 	65 	65 	.368 	.451 	.750 	1.201 	213
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    PA 	AB 	R 	H 	2B 	3B 	HR 	RBI 	SB 	CS 	BB 	SO 	BA 	OBP 	SLG 	OPS 	OPS+
    685 	591 	137 	212 	51 	1 	43 	124 	5 	1 	79 	65 	.359 	.439 	.667 	1.106 	187

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    Bagwell by far. Even if Bagwell's raw numbers were a bit worse than Pujols' it was a season in the freakin Astrodome.

    Frank Thomas' 94 was better than Pujols as well.

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    Bagwell's season, even if some of his percentage numbers were inflated because he had more than 200 less plate appearances. He hit a home run every 10 times he went up to bat

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    Neutralized slash:

    JB: .369/.453/.752

    AP: .357/.437/.666

    Not very close.


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

    Some jerks never learn.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    Neutralized slash:

    JB: .369/.453/.752

    AP: .357/.437/.666

    Not very close.
    Bagwell had significantly less PAs though

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    Normally I can be a skeptic and say "If ____ played a/the full season, who knows he could have gone into a major slump or we don't what would have happened..." With Bagwell in '94, I don't think that was possible. He was insane. That was such a fun season and then made my last month of summer vacation less important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fly View Post
    Bagwell had significantly less PAs though
    Bagwell also played in one of the worst hitters park ever.

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    Also, I think Pujols' 08 season was better then his 03 season. In 08 his slg was 14 points lower, but his obp was 23 points higher. His wOBA for the two years was .462 in 03 and 458 in 08. They're pretty close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fly View Post
    Bagwell had significantly less PAs though
    Yes everyone knows he broke his hand. So in terms of quantity Pujols's year was worth more, but in terms of rates, forget it.

    In 69.9% as many PA's Bagwell's season was worth 81.7% as much as Pujols's (per rWAR)


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

    Some jerks never learn.....

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    Bags. Any time you ask "was Bagwell's [awesome season] better than [random player's] [awesome season]"....

    The answer is always "Bagwell", unless of course the other player is Frank Thomas.

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    Bagwell's easily especially when you consider he only played until August and Pujols played a full season.
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    200 additional plate appearances, that's hard to make up

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    Yes everyone knows he broke his hand. So in terms of quantity Pujols's year was worth more, but in terms of rates, forget it.

    In 69.9% as many PA's Bagwell's season was worth 81.7% as much as Pujols's (per rWAR)
    broke his hand?

    Do you mean the players strike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade>Kobe View Post
    Bags. Any time you ask "was Bagwell's [awesome season] better than [random player's] [awesome season]"....

    The answer is always "Bagwell", unless of course the other player is Frank Thomas.
    Unless of course you are talking about Barry Bonds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    broke his hand?

    Do you mean the players strike?
    No. This is 1993. The Player's strike was 1994.

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