Veteran suicides greatly outnumber death toll of Iraq and Afghanistan combined

[Labgrownmangoat]

This is a tragically high price to pay for a couple of invasions and occupations that were mistakes in the first place. We're spilling the blood and sanity of our young people for what? For this? For this?

For the love of all that's holy, let's not make this mistake again in Iran. Filling the coffers of war profiteers is not worth the lives and sanity of a generation of Americans.

[The Schmooze]

This is a tragically high price to pay for a couple of invasions and occupations that were mistakes in the first place. We're spilling the blood and sanity of our young people for what? For this? For this?

For the love of all that's holy, let's not make this mistake again in Iran. Filling the coffers of war profiteers is not worth the lives and sanity of a generation of Americans.

Well said. I hope that maybe THIS time the majority of American people will wake up, and not be duped into yet another war-for-profit.

[D1RoseJM]

Not a suprising comment from you.


Anyways, those are staggering numbers. I, personally, been diagnosed with PTSD so i know the difficulities that you face with trying to adjust to the civiallian world escpecially coming home and having no one to relate to. This is saddening. I know some soldiers that have committed suicide and its hard to accept but i didnt know the numbers were so overwhelming, not that i expect PSD to know anything about it.

i knew a guy that had to reenlist because he couldn't keep a job and fully adjust to the civilian world.

[carter80]

i knew a guy that had to reenlist because he couldn't keep a job and fully adjust to the civilian world.

I just re-enlisted a couple of weeks ago, just waiting on the ship date and hopefully a change of M.O.S. but i doubt that. Its hard adjusting to the civillian world and i was only in for 6 years.

[whitesoxfan83]

If we just came home we'd save a lot of money, lives, and minds.

[We Play Golf]

i knew a guy that had to reenlist because he couldn't keep a job and fully adjust to the civilian world.

I just re-enlisted a couple of weeks ago, just waiting on the ship date and hopefully a change of M.O.S. but i doubt that. Its hard adjusting to the civillian world and i was only in for 6 years.

Good, I hope you don't come back.

[KingerSox]

^
Not cool dickweed.

[Raps08-09 Champ]

How much is the government spending on trying to help those damaged(mentally or physically) from the war?

Surely the government could spend more in terms of helping out these soldiers. And if they can't fund it, just end the war so you wouldn't have these problems to begin with. It's all pointless anyways. Especially this war.

[Halladay]

3 of the 4 of my grandparents(my grandma with the English defense/nurse) fought in WWII and let me tell you, there is absolutely no question they saw some pretty awful stuff. They never spoke about it very often but there's little doubt in my mind they had permanent mental damage from their experiences. The only one who would really talk about it was my grandpa, fought in North Africa,Sicily, and Italy as a sniper and you could tell he was traumatized by shooting people and seeing his buddies getting blown to bits. I have the utmost respect for people who volunteer to go overseas but the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have been painfully long and ridiculous. And for those Americans who don't think Canadians fight, do some research, we were once a massive military in WWII and our entire fleet is in Afghanistan because the U.S was too pre-occupied with Iraq. Completely senseless war that was started by war criminals known as Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld etc. These people deserve to be put on trial. The fact that some Americans support going into Iran is insanity. The people who serve in the military have had enough and should only be used as a last resort.

[Halladay]

How much is the government spending on trying to help those damaged(mentally or physically) from the war?

Surely the government could spend more in terms of helping out these soldiers. And if they can't fund it, just end the war so you wouldn't have these problems to begin with. It's all pointless anyways. Especially this war.

This is part of the problem. The government does nothing for these men or women. I have friends in the military and you wouldn't believe how crappy the pay is and how mistreated they get when they get home and I know for a fact it's just as bad in the U.S if not worse. One of my friends is in special forces, who occupy Afghanistan right now, and he was actually rejected from going over because the Canadian military does a backround check and found out relatives of his have depression therefore he cannot go over. That sounds great that they do backround checks but these guys still come back with a screw loose.

[Halladay]

If we just came home we'd save a lot of money, lives, and minds.

Ron Paul=the ****. That man is the best politician in decades for the Americans...I'm not conservative by any means but that man would have my vote any day of the week.

[{Ron!n}]

At first I thought the title was referring to Afghanis and Iraqis that died. Astonishing numbers nonetheless.

[Iansnightout]

Yeah yeah. Same old ****. Not going to change anything though. That's just the society we live in. war for no good reason.

[Canada26]

Yeah yeah. Same old ****. Not going to change anything though. That's just the society we live in. war for no good reason.

Harsh reality, but its true. If things do change, you won't see it with Obama in there, or probably the term or two when he is done. Its unfortunate really.

[Labgrownmangoat]

Harsh reality, but its true. If things do change, you won't see it with Obama in there, or probably the term or two when he is done. Its unfortunate really.

Wait, did I miss him starting another war? Or did he follow along with closing out one of them?

There are plenty of reasons not to like the President's foreign policy, from the surge to the assassinations, to the destruction of Libya. He's been fairly consistent in not putting additional US lives at risk, however. He's done that at the cost of lots of civilian casualties elsewhere, and to the detriment of our nation's reputation as a nation of laws, but he's done it. Given all the downside of that equation, he should be given some credit for the upside.