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    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksSoxFan69 View Post
    Agree

    Teams like the Heat and Bulls flop so much

    All they do is flop

    Heat suck

    U mad?????????

    Its called Defense that's why there both top 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyknicks4511 View Post
    blake fell off with me quick. The whole dunk + exaggerated staredown ritual got old, fast.
    +1

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    It's not so much about flopping but the refs are just awful this season. I watched Brandon Bass go over Kris Humphrie's back VERY VERY obviously for a rebound and shoved him and no call.

    Then Greg Stiesma or whatever, grabs Jordan Williams arm going for a rebound and no call either.

    Then Deron gets called for a touch foul on Pierce.

    Calls like that is what ruins the game. Flip flopping with contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSpirit1 View Post
    Yeah, he's completely right.

    This killed the game today - completely. The Knicks would have been within three at 60-57, instead the Heat came back and went up 10. The Heat got calls like that all day long though.

    It's amazing how much refs can take the life out of the entire building.
    wow i guess u didnt see how melo was always pushing people off with his arm to get space be happy that the game wasnt called fair if it was miami probably would have won by more

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    Epic. And they tried to silence him.

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    JVG is unbearable to listen to.
    When you got to shoot, shoot, don't talk

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTL_123 View Post
    wow i guess u didnt see how melo was always pushing people off with his arm to get space be happy that the game wasnt called fair if it was miami probably would have won by more
    Everyone does that push off move, when the hell did Melo become the only one, On PSD?
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    Flopping is an issue. I think in order for the issue to really be solved, it's the FANS that have to really speak out for the sake of the game.
    It's simple, Technical Foul, which would really take it away as an option in late games. After a certain number, fines... it is an integrity of the game issue, bad sportsmanship.
    It only works if the ref has to call it and then someone else (Refs on opposite end of the floor or even better, JVG) has to review the video and determine if a flop was committed.
    2 shots and the ball.

    Ultimately, flopping will not be eliminated. But i wish that it would whittle down to slightly exaggerating the contact. If you take a decent hit but it's not necessarily enough to knock you down, but you stumble; you have the right to fall down to enhance perception of a good call. It's like the Defensive version of "Continuation". That I wouldn't mind, cause it would be more or less seamless. At least taking away the obvious flops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlueCrew View Post
    Everyone does that push off move, when the hell did Melo become the only one, On PSD?
    So, you don't think the 'pushoff' should be called.

    Personally, if I were coaching a team, and 'Melo (or ANY other player) was using the 'pushoff' as a major part of their offensive arsenal against my team, I would tell my player defending him (and I would make it a particularly strong player for a series of plays) to come down hard on the offensive player's arm (as if the defender was pushing the offensive player's arm off of him), but add a little (or a lot) more strength and viciousness.

    Get called for a foul or two, but make the offensive player think about the next time he is going to push off.

    Sorry, but I'm old school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by llemon View Post
    So, you don't think the 'pushoff' should be called.

    Personally, if I were coaching a team, and 'Melo (or ANY other player) was using the 'pushoff' as a major part of their offensive arsenal against my team, I would tell my player defending him (and I would make it a particularly strong player for a series of plays) to come down hard on the offensive player's arm (as if the defender was pushing the offensive player's arm off of him), but add a little (or a lot) more strength and viciousness.

    Get called for a foul or two, but make the offensive player think about the next time he is going to push off.

    Sorry, but I'm old school.
    only if you think there are NOT enough whistles in the game....

    Look everyone does it, from Melo, Lebron Dwade, to the great Michael Jordan, who used to do all the time. So please lets cut the crap that Melo is starting some kinda revolutionary move here with his push off. Its nothing new. I dont get why its being brought up.
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    Well to be honest, basketball is a finesse sport now. It's clearly not a game of toughness like it was before.

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    Lebron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlueCrew View Post
    only if you think there are NOT enough whistles in the game....

    Look everyone does it, from Melo, Lebron Dwade, to the great Michael Jordan, who used to do all the time. So please lets cut the crap that Melo is starting some kinda revolutionary move here with his push off. Its nothing new. I dont get why its being brought up.
    LOL!!! Yeah, I said it was revolutionary.

    Wise up kid. I was just explaining how to get an offensive player to stop pushing off.

    I've been following the NBA since Wilt was a San Francisco Warrior, and the principle is to win, and you do what yo have to win.

    Offensive players push off so that their teams have a better chance to win.

    Defensive players should be willing to fracture that offensive player's forearm to give their team a better chance to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by llemon View Post
    LOL!!! Yeah, I said it was revolutionary.

    Wise up kid. I was just explaining how to get an offensive player to stop pushing off.

    I've been following the NBA since Wilt was a San Francisco Warrior, and the principle is to win, and you do what yo have to win.

    Offensive players push off so that their teams have a better chance to win.

    Defensive players should be willing to fracture that offensive player's forearm to give their team a better chance to win.
    If that's the case then you should be equally riled up against the non called traveling calls. That could a bigger issue

    Pushing off is such a non-issue
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    That would be awesome, guys would be afraid of flopping, it would make the game so much better.

    The expectations are visible behind Dwight Howard in LA

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