2011-2012 Official MVP Discussion Thread 3

[justinnum1]

Im just including Lebron and Durant, if enough people ***** about it, a mod can add others

[Cal827]

JB is NOT Pleased.

Still Lebron by a pretty far margin for me.

[FraziersKnicks]

You should've made it so you can see who people have voted for.. Anyway, still LeBron.

[MTL_123]

^^well i now JB gonna vote for durant lol

[justinnum1]

You should've made it so you can see who people have voted for.. Anyway, still LeBron.

Yea, i meant to...i sent a mod a message asking to change it

[ghettosean]

Durant is clearly the MVP to me at this point he's still #1 in the West (just as tough as the east if not tougher) and he's still playing great as well as being a leader and getting his teammates heads into the game.

1. Miami had a few streches late this year were you can see no one on the team had there head in the game and just didn't care what happened on the court.

2. Lebron and the heat have a bad record against top teams in there conference (or teams that just matter and they should destroy)

i. Bos 2 - Miami 1 (It was clear that Bostons players were out of shape to start the season because of the lockout... Pretty much 3-0 in my opinion with this regular season match up)

ii. Chicago 2 - Miami 1 (Miami clearly won the 1st game... No excuses of funny business though Lebron "and Rose" missed critical free throws in the end. No one really question Roses clutchness in the past but LBJ we all know he is thoroughly question on this subject. One of the games they lost to the Bulls they didn't have Derrick Rose and LBJ got cut up by the backup PG. That embarrassing enough!

LBJ also missed another clutch shot to take a strangle hold on the game with less than 20 seconds left and also misses a critical free throw on top of this a few seconds later when the game was on the table for the taking and well I think we all know what happened)

iii. Magic 2 - Miami 2 (even with all the drama around D12, him being traded or not and the love and hate for Van Gundy and on top of all that he has a salary inflated crappy team but they still manage to squeeze 2 wins over the heatles)

I mentioned at least 2 games against the bulls that were on the table for the taking for LBJ and the heat and he failed.

They lost to Boston 2 times in a week a team that they should take more seriously since they may be facing them in the 1st round.

Tied 2 - 2 with a team riddled with problems in Orlando.

I quoted this from the earlier thread to show that LBJ and the heat just haven't got it done in the east. If you are having the least amount of pressure as the #1 option that you have ever had in your entire career due to playing with another player who is pretty much as good as you in D-Wade and another franchise player in Bosh then your stats should be better no doubt.

The fact that this team is still a #2 seed and should be #1 with the quote above showing eastern conference match ups and results will I think it makes it even more clear that Durant is MVP but well let the poll do the talking. The last quarter of this season has not been good for Lebron or the heat and shows that there should be a little panic (just a little) in their mentality going into the playoffs.

[justinnum1]

Nice game by lebron today, great defense in the 4th shutting down melo

[beliges]

The Heat have not had a great season in coorelation to the talent level they have. While Lebron might be the best individual player in the league, thats not how the MVP is decided. Durant has been the best player on the best team in the league this year. He has led his team to a much better position and a better record than Lebron has led the Heat. With the talent the Heat have, Lebron really has no shot at the MVP unless he has his team as the #1 seed outright. Thats just not gonna happen this year. Durant is the MVP this year while Lebron is probably the best individual player. Please lets not get the two mixed up.

On the Cavs, with far lesser talent, Lebron led his team to the #1 seed and won the MVP twice. This year, with the most talent in the league, the Heat are the 3rd seed. Durant seems like the clear MVP at this point in the late season.

[k.smith904]

Barring some miraculous end to the regular season for Durant, its Lebron.

Dude has played his *** off this year.

[beliges]

Barring some miraculous end to the regular season for Durant, its Lebron.

Dude has played his *** off this year.

Yea, but Durant has been the better scorer, the better clutch player and has been the better leader this season, leading his team to a better record and the #1 seed in the conference. Again, do not get the best player mixed up with the MVP. They are not the same thing.

[bucketss]

The Heat have not had a great season in coorelation to the talent level they have. While Lebron might be the best individual player in the league, thats not how the MVP is decided. Durant has been the best player on the best team in the league this year. He has led his team to a much better position and a better record than Lebron has led the Heat. With the talent the Heat have, Lebron really has no shot at the MVP unless he has his team as the #1 seed outright. Thats just not gonna happen this year. Durant is the MVP this year while Lebron is probably the best individual player. Please lets not get the two mixed up.

On the Cavs, with far lesser talent, Lebron led his team to the #1 seed and won the MVP twice. This year, with the most talent in the league, the Heat are the 3rd seed. Durant seems like the clear MVP at this point in the late season.

lol everyone keeps saying that. do you know who votes for the mvp? the media and they are all saying currently lebron is the mvp so please tell me how he has NO SHOT?

and btw okc only leads miami by one game in the loss column they can very well catch up

[k.smith904]

Yea, but Durant has been the better scorer, the better clutch player and has been the better leader this season, leading his team to a better record and the #1 seed in the conference. Again, do not get the best player mixed up with the MVP. They are not the same thing.

Durant averages like .8 more points a game, but like 4 less assists.

If you don't agree with me thats fine, but LBJ and Durant have been virtually identical in PPG all year.

[justinnum1]

Yea, but Durant has been the better scorer, the better clutch player and has been the better leader this season, leading his team to a better record and the #1 seed in the conference. Again, do not get the best player mixed up with the MVP. They are not the same thing.

You would actually have a point if all the media(who are the ones voting) are still saying its lebron.

****, JVG said today LBJ was the prohibitive favorite.

[justinnum1]

hyde

Forget the 29 pts and 10 rebs (and, ahem, 6 turnovers) LeBron had vs Knicks. What separates him as MVP winner came on the defensive end. With about 8 minutes left, he was put on Carmelo Anthony. To that point, Anthony had 39 pts. With James on him, Anthony shot 1-6 to the end and finished with 42 pts. The Knicks scored eight points the rest of the game. The Heat went from tied to a relatively easy win. Whether it's PG Derrick Rose or a scoring forward like Carmelo, LeBron is unique as a defender

[KnicksSoxFan69]

Carmlelo and its not even cloze. Heat showed day wer average today and without Lin, they barely beat the Knicks. Overrated Durant is probably 3rd behind Melon and Tyson.