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    Quote Originally Posted by alencp3 View Post
    I still cant believe how he won that MVP over CP3 in 08'
    Well I think your name on PSD says a lot about why you cant believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LakersMaster24 View Post
    Well I think your name on PSD says a lot about why you cant believe it.
    I thought CP3 should of won it that year over Kobe as well. Not hating on Kobe, he's one of the best players EVER to play the game of basketball.

    I am surprised that Kobe only has 1 but whatever, he has achieved more then anybody in the league right now.

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    Kobe's career has been bookended by two of the most physically dominant players in the league: Shaq and now LeBron. Both players are much bigger, stronger and impact the game far more than Kobe ever could, even though he is more skilled than either.

    Also, unlike Wilt, Russell, Kareem, Jordan, Magic or Bird, Kobe has never been the BEST in any given area of specialization in the game over the course of his career. Wilt dominated in every area; Kareem was the definition of consistent dominant scoring with his skyhook; Jordan had 10 scoring championships and a resume as long as a telephone book; Magic reinvented the point, Bird had the greatest all around skillset of any forward in the game.

    Kobe has been an outstanding scorer, but "only" led the league in scoring twice. He's had just as many 24/25 ppg seasons as he's had 30 ppg seasons since the age of 22. He's been a very good passer, and a good rebounder, but his numbers have never been extraordinary in either area.

    He loves to take big shots, but he misses a ton of shots in the last minute and last two minutes and misses most of his shots at the buzzer. He's a two time finals mvp but has shot the ball very poorly in both finals mvp series.

    He also has definite difficulties with the concept of "teammate," on just about every level. He doesn't trust his teammates, doesn't like his teammates, rides them mercilessly and force them to bow down to him at every turn. He tends to instill fear rather than respect.

    Add to that his sociopathic character flaws. He raped the girl in Colorado (yes, he did). And he did try to buy his way out of being prosecuted. And he did throw Shaq under the bus while doing so as well. Then, he had his wife hold his hand while he plead guilty to "infidelity" and sin before god.

    He's a great player, but with regards to any sense of humanity and moral character, he is an utter abomination and disgrace.

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    Considering the fact that guys like Shaq, DRob and Dream only have one each, while Steve Nash has two, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam View Post
    Kobe's career has been bookended by two of the most physically dominant players in the league: Shaq and now LeBron. Both players are much bigger, stronger and impact the game far more than Kobe ever could, even though he is more skilled than either.

    Also, unlike Wilt, Russell, Kareem, Jordan, Magic or Bird, Kobe has never been the BEST in any given area of specialization in the game over the course of his career. Wilt dominated in every area; Kareem was the definition of consistent dominant scoring with his skyhook; Jordan had 10 scoring championships and a resume as long as a telephone book; Magic reinvented the point, Bird had the greatest all around skillset of any forward in the game.

    Kobe has been an outstanding scorer, but "only" led the league in scoring twice. He's had just as many 24/25 ppg seasons as he's had 30 ppg seasons since the age of 22. He's been a very good passer, and a good rebounder, but his numbers have never been extraordinary in either area.

    He loves to take big shots, but he misses a ton of shots in the last minute and last two minutes and misses most of his shots at the buzzer. He's a two time finals mvp but has shot the ball very poorly in both finals mvp series.

    He also has definite difficulties with the concept of "teammate," on just about every level. He doesn't trust his teammates, doesn't like his teammates, rides them mercilessly and force them to bow down to him at every turn. He tends to instill fear rather than respect.

    Add to that his sociopathic character flaws. He raped the girl in Colorado (yes, he did). And he did try to buy his way out of being prosecuted. And he did throw Shaq under the bus while doing so as well. Then, he had his wife hold his hand while he plead guilty to "infidelity" and sin before god.

    He's a great player, but with regards to any sense of humanity and moral character, he is an utter abomination and disgrace.

    You were doing so well.

    FAIL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raph12 View Post
    Considering the fact that guys like Shaq, DRob and Dream only have one each, while Steve Nash has two, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
    Shaq should have about 3. He should have won in 99' and 01'

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    Quote Originally Posted by willabeast77 View Post
    shaq should have about 3. He should have won in 99' and 01'
    05?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronz View Post
    05?
    True, I think he should have won in 05' as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amos1er View Post
    Good point. Can't believe that a guy as talented as Shaq only has one and Lebron already has 2.
    We can probably attribute some Laker hate to Kobe and Shaq only having one MVP each. The award loses credibility to me when I think about the fact that Shaq and Kobe have only won it once.

    Guess the price of success results in some regular season MVP award hating.
    While Bryant probablt should of won one of Nash's Lebron has clearly dominated and both years he got his MVP awards so just because one goy who deserved it doesnt mean the next guy shouldnt get because Lebron clearly deserved his last two MVP awards
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    Quote Originally Posted by LakersMaster24 View Post
    Well I think your name on PSD says a lot about why you cant believe it.
    I actually agree with him as well CP3 had a amazing year that year and you saying hes biased which he obviously is discounts you as well Lakermaster24
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    MVP's mean nothing. . . He has 5 rings. . . Lebron has 0

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    Mamba's Lone Strike: How Can Kobe Have Only One MVP?

    Here we go again, an MVP thread turns into a rings comparison.

    Kobe stans lol

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    Kobe only has one MVP because Steve Nash was playing out of his mind during the two seasons that Kobe had a legit shot at winning the award. And I'm saying this as a Laker fan.

    Dodgers, Lakers, Raiders.
    Fok Jelle Naiers

    And It's 'Should have' not 'should of' half of you should have failed 4th grade english.

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    Kobe only has one MVP because Steve Nash was playing out of his mind during the two seasons that Kobe had a legit shot at winning the award. And I'm saying this as a Laker fan.

    Dodgers, Lakers, Raiders.
    Fok Jelle Naiers

    And It's 'Should have' not 'should of' half of you should have failed 4th grade english.

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