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View Poll Results: Better Record, or Higher SRS, or Better Exp W-L Ratio

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    Better Record, or Higher SRS, or Better Exp W-L Ratio

    Better Record, or Higher SRS, or Better Exp W-L Ratio

    If you were to order those 3 of which you consider a better measurement for which team should win a series, which order would you rank them?


    Examples:

    Bulls in 2011 had the better Record, and Better Exp W-L Ratio, however Miami had the higher SRS rating


    Celtics in 1985 had the better Record, however the Lakers had the Better Exp W-L Ratio and SRS rating.


    Twolves in 2003 had the better Record, however the Lakers had the Better Exp W-L Ratio and SRS Rating
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    To me, the short answer would be SRS, but everything depends on the specific numbers.

    Let's say Team A has the best record in the league and Team B has the best SRS, in four different scenarios.

    Code:
    Scenario 1:
    
    	Record	SRS
    Team A	65-18	5
    Team B	60-23	8
    
    Scenario 2:
    
    	Record	SRS
    Team A	63-20	6
    Team B	61-22	7
    
    Scenario 3:
    
    	Record	SRS
    Team A	68-15	6
    Team B	58-25	7
    
    Scenario 4:
    
    	Record	SRS
    Team A	63-20	4
    Team B	61-22	9
    In scenario 3, the disparity in records is pretty huge, but the SRS is close to identical. The opposite is true in scenario 4. So in either case, "which is the better metric?" kind of becomes an irrelevant question because the only data there that shows any significant difference is one or the other. So even though I think SRS is in fact better, in scenario 3 I think it would be totally reasonable to predict that Team A would have greater playoff success (despite slightly trailing Team B in SRS) based on the big gap in their records. (This of course assuming both teams were healthy all season, etc.).

    In scenario 2, the difference between the two teams in both categories is so slight that nothing meaningful could be concluded.

    But what we're really talking about is scenario 1, where there's (what could be seen as - I don't know if others here will agree) a comparable difference between record and SRS, big enough to be significant, but the record advantage going to Team A, and SRS going to Team B. And I'm pretty sure the data is there to suggest that SRS will be the more reliable predictor in such cases. (Wasn't that what Chronz's big post was all about?). So in scenario 1, Team B would probably have the edge based on a stronger SRS, despite the worse record.


    By "Exp W-L Ratio" do you mean Pythagorean wins/losses? That's the only thing along those lines that I've seen people use in the way you're talking about.
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