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    Ladainian Tomlinson overrated

    Last night against the jets: 26 carries, 67 yards, 2.6 average per carry. long of 5 yds. however, he gets 2 TDs on short carries, and gets a bunch of credit. blames it on a toe injury. very similar to the titans playoff game last year, when he did nothin but get a 1 yd TD and he was the hero. week 2 this year: 10 attempts, 26 yds, 2.6 avg.

    Last season..his yards per game were (by week)
    1. 25 yds, 1.5 avg
    2. 43 yds, 2.4 avg
    3. 62 yds, 2.8 avg.
    4. 132 yds, 6.6 avg
    5. 67 yds, 3.2 avg
    6. 198 yds, 8.3 avg
    7. bye
    8. 90 yds, 5.3 avg
    9. 40 yds, 2.5 avg
    10. 76 yds, 3.6 avg
    11. 62 yds, 3.9 avg
    12. 77 yds, 3.2 avg
    13. 177 yds, 7.7 avg
    14. 146 yds, 5.6 avg
    15. 116 yds, 7.7 avg
    16. 107 yds, 5.6 avg
    17. 56 yds, 3.5 avg

    his totals for the season: a very impressive 1474 yds, and a 4.7 avg.
    generally, for a starting RB, an average of 4.0 is considered "good". tomlinson had some HUGE games last year that boosted his stats, but often overlooked is that in 9 games, more than half, he was below 4.0. 4 times, a quarter of the games, he was below 3. 7 times he was at 3.5 or lower. In 10 games he had less than 100 yds, and in 7 of them he was under 70. he had 5 fantastic games to boost his seasonal stats.

    dont get me wrong, he is a great running back. however, i heard him called "the most dominant player, offensively or defensively, to ever play in the NFL." he is very often called the NFLs best player, and considered by most to be the greatest RB of all time. With all the things LT does have..he is lacking consistency, which is what defines greatness, in my opinion.

    not to mention his career incababilities in the playoffs:
    2004 WC: 80 yds, 3.1 avg,
    2006 Div: 123, 5.3 avg
    2007 WC: 42 yds, 2.0 avg (gets very short TD to seal the game, everyone worships him for it. "El Tee!! Greates runnin back eva!")
    2007 Div: 28 yds, 4.0 average.
    2007 Cham: 5 yards.

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    I do agree with you that he is overrated, but even though he is overrated, he is still probably the best RB in the league.

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    Not overrated. He's declining, that doesn't make him overrated, because most people acknowledge that he's declining.

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    I'd take Westbrook over LT any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfan28 View Post
    Not overrated. He's declining, that doesn't make him overrated, because most people acknowledge that he's declining.
    then hes been declining for a while. in 2005, he also had 9 games under a 4.0, including 7 games below 3.5 and 1 of 0.4. in 2005, he failed to reach 100 yds 11 out of 16 times. with 7 games under 75 yds. same story, inconsistent season, a few huge games boosted his season stats.

    in 2004: 9 games with less then a 4. he had 6 games with less then a 3. in 9 games with less than 100 yds, with 7 games under 75yds. more than half the time..he fails to perform well. seems the same story again..

    in 2003 he had 7 games less than 4. in 3 of them below 3. he had 10 games below 100 yards. 6 games he had less than 65 yards, including 2 in the 30s and one in the 20s. a few HUGE games, twice getting 200+ yds, made his season stats look very good. but again...very very inconsistent.

    in 2002..10 times below a 4. he had 5 games of 3.5 or less. 9 times he failed to reach 100 yards. 5 times below 70 yards. a couple of massive games, his season stats look just fine.

    2001...11 times under 4. he had 9 games below 3.3. five games which his average was in the 2 range. in 12 games he failed to reach 100 yards. this includes 9 games of 75 or below.

    every year (besides 06) he is inconsistent, more than half the time he doesnt perform to expectation, and has a few huge games per year to boost his stats. according to ur logic, jetsfan, he has been "declining" since he joined the league.

    2 words that describe LT "overrated" and "inconsistent"
    Last edited by cubs92; 09-23-2008 at 09:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLisDaBest View Post
    your a idiot. LT is the going to be the greatest td producing player in nfl history when its all said and done.
    how is it that i am an idiot? i just broke down LTs career, and there is no doubt, just look at the numbers, that he has been very inconsistent. will he be the greatest touchdown producing player ever? possibly but not definately. will he have the most TDs when its over? probably..theres a difference. how many of his TDs were less than 5 yards? the chargers always relied very heavily on him, so he gets lots of carries. he has games where he gets 4 tds. but then he'll turn around and get 1 over the next 4 games. theres no doubt hes talented, but theres also no doubt hes inconsistent. it also seems that someone always blames his lack of performance on injuries.

    the bottom line: LT IS overrated. IS NOT close to being the best RB of all time. IS NOT the best RB in the league today. IS inconsistent.

    as i said, the guys pretty damn talented. and the numbers are always there at the end of the year. but people never recognize all the details, how often he gets shut down, his consistent inconsistencies.

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    Overrated...Overrated...Overrated...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Overrated...Overrated...Overrated...
    there ya go. see this guy? this guy over here? yeah he knows what hes talkin about. uh huh

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    He's injured and beginning to decline. As he declines San Diego's window of oppurtunity closes.

    I wonder what percent of his carries are more than 4.0 yards? It's a more important stat than yards per carry.

    I heard crazy old Madden talking about how Adrian Peterson only gets 4+ yards 40% of the time. He was talking like it was a bad thing. AP breaks a lot of big runs, which makes his average look really good. But on the other hand, he gets stuffed a lot too.

    I'll take the consistent RB that gets 4 yards per carry 80% of the time, over the guy that breaks the big play every now and again, but gets stuffed a lot. Big plays are for the WRs.

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    It seems like you went through an awful lot to hate on one of the best RB's in the game right now. I'll make sure to e-mail a link to this thread to all the HOF voters when the time comes. Clearly we have all been bamboozled.

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    Seems like ever since the Pats smacked the Chargers in that playoff game and LT cried he's been on the decline

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLisDaBest View Post
    your a idiot. LT is the going to be the greatest td producing player in nfl history when its all said and done.
    Two words jerry rice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLisDaBest View Post
    you sound stupider every time you open your mouth. it doesnt matter what he does between the 20's. what matters is hes putting points on the board. as far as im concerned that makes him one of the best ever.
    so ur saying..yards and YPC dont matter unless its in the red zone? ok...first i want u to read my previous posts in this thread and actually pay attention to it and ask to urself "is LT consistent?" the answer will be no, if ur honest. and as far as ur concerned doesnt really matter..hes not one of the best ever. his team does all the work, gets to the 2 yd line, he gets a TD, and everyone says how great he is.

    i really do hate bringing this kind of stuff up but..u said i sound "stupider" every time i say something..."stupider" isnt a word. i basically summed up his career with actual stats, u said his stats only matter in the red zone and nowhere else...u sound stoopid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaji View Post
    It seems like you went through an awful lot to hate on one of the best RB's in the game right now. I'll make sure to e-mail a link to this thread to all the HOF voters when the time comes. Clearly we have all been bamboozled.
    i didnt say he wont get into the HOF. i said hes overrated. which he certainly is. hes good, dont get me wrong, but most definately overrated. and the stats i got for ya prove that, along with the fact that "the greatest playa in da histry of football eva!" is inconsistent.

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    So, a disgruntled Patriot fan decides to take his anger out on arguably the best RB in the league. Laughable. He's on pace to shatter, and I mean shatter the touchdown records.

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