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    Quote Originally Posted by waveycrockett View Post
    Wow dude it's like talking to a brick wall with you. Kobe Bryant couldn't even lead his team to respectability let alone the playoffs in his PRIME with trash around him. You expect Kevin Love to do it in order to be called elite? The greatest player of our generation think about that.
    Well actually Kobe Bryant did lead his team to the playoffs one of those seasons he was all by himself.

    But still, the Lakers were NOT the worse team in the league and they were still very much respectable. I think one of those seasons Lakers finished like 9th or 10th.

    Kevin Love's team last season was the worse in the NBA. Do you understand that? Thats is NOT RESPECTABLE! Im not saying that basketball isnt a team sport or anything like that. But if a great player cannot get his team more than 17 wins in a full season, then something is "not-so" great about that player

    Love will always fill up a stat sheet. But he will not win if he is the main guy! And for his team to truly win he wont be putting up 25ppg 12rpg either. (ask Chris Bosh, his stat line was similar in Toronto)
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE MTL View Post
    Well actually Kobe Bryant did lead his team to the playoffs one of those seasons he was all by himself.

    But still, the Lakers were NOT the worse team in the league and they were still very much respectable. I think one of those seasons Lakers finished like 9th or 10th.

    Kevin Love's team last season was the worse in the NBA. Do you understand that? Thats is NOT RESPECTABLE! Im not saying that basketball isnt a team sport or anything like that. But if a great player cannot get his team more than 17 wins in a full season, then something is "not-so" great about that player
    If you put Amar'e in his shoes his team would be a joke. And saying Kobe Bryant was "all alone" shows you have no clue what your talking. Prime Caron Butler and Prime Lamar Odom? All Alone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waveycrockett View Post
    If you put Amar'e in his shoes his team would be a joke. And saying Kobe Bryant was "all alone" shows you have no clue what your talking. Prime Caron Butler and Prime Lamar Odom? All Alone?
    Why are u bringing in Amare? Is that ur shot at the Knicks?....you troll lol. I'll tell you myself that Wolves would probi be worse off if Amare was there in Love's shoes.

    And Kobe was that team back in mid-2000s and you cannot tell me otherwise. He put up tremendous stats and it was his play that resulted in the wins! And while they were a sub-par team. They most certainly werent a laughing stock and the worse in the league unlike what the Wolves were last year and most likely this year if it wasnt for Ricky Rubio!
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE MTL View Post
    But Kobe was not ELITE back then. My whole argument is about the eliteness of Kevin Love.

    But now-a-days (well maybe not this season cause he has truly been a ball hog lol) if Kobe scored 50 points that is an automatic win.
    Michael Jordan scored 64 in a loss to Orlando in 93.

    Jordan also lost to the Hawks while scoring 61.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE MTL View Post
    Why are u bringing in Amare? Is that ur shot at the Knicks?....you troll lol. I'll tell you myself that Wolves would probi be worse off if Amare was there in Love's shoes.

    But if Amare scored 50 points I bet that team would have won. Cause when STAT goes off he raises the level of his team overall.
    You implied that Amar'e being an early season MVP candidate after 1 month meant something. Kobe has dropped 42 in a loss this season. When was the last time Amar'e even scored 30? Lesbehonest

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBongTheory View Post
    Michael Jordan scored 64 in a loss to Orlando in 93.

    Jordan also lost to the Hawks while scoring 61.
    There will always be exceptions to the rules my friend damn! I bet when Jordan went off for 40/50/60 points there are more wins than losses at least.

    Btw, since we're being technical. I never did mention Michael Jordan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE MTL View Post
    There will always be exceptions to the rules my friend damn! I bet when Jordan went off for 40/50/60 points there are more wins than losses at least.

    Btw, since we're being technical. I never did mention Michael Jordan.
    Yeah I know, I just figured he was the best to bring up to topic with him being considered the goat and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waveycrockett View Post
    You implied that Amar'e being an early season MVP candidate after 1 month meant something. Kobe has dropped 42 in a loss this season. When was the last time Amar'e even scored 30? Lesbehonest
    Well it was more of a rebuttal to you saying that Love needs Rubio, like Griffin needs Paul, or Amare needs Nash.

    My response was that Griffin managed 32 wins (almost doubled Love's wins) last season and Amare lead the Knicks last season and was early MVP candidate without Steve Nash.

    But seriously, stay on topic. We talking about Love not Amare.

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    I laughed so hard when the one commentator was telling the other "it's very impressive that Love has only one foul in the game, despite playing over 40mins" then Harden drives it at him and gets an easy layup and the other commentator says "I think you just got your answer, he stays out of foul trouble, by staying out of the way".

    Good game for the fans, poor defense and players executing well on offense.

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    How can anyone say Love can't be the number 1 option on a team?? What else does the guy have to show?? start making 4 point baskets???

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    lol whatever hater

    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksorBust View Post
    This is from the TFB department: Love won't win **** without Rubio. He can't dominate on 2 ends of the floor and so he's the Dominique Wilkins of PFs. Keep rippin that statboard bro. You aren't ELITE. You're just very damn good.
    Really??? Coming from a knicks fan haha. He's better then anyone on your team, and it's not even close....

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    I noticed that the Wolves don't seem to have a functioning center right now-Pekovic helps Love and the Wolves win quite a bit, not just Rubio. Hasn't he been out the past few games?
    Love is playing like the best PF right now-scoring and rebounding like a monster. Not his fault that the team is floundering right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal827 View Post
    Lol when I saw AI and 50 pts, for some reason I thought back to that Raptors/76ers playoff series when he and Carter got 50 in those games. I just remember thinking before game 7 that AI would go ape ***** again lol
    That was the most entertaining series I've ever seen... it was great.

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    Well my fantasy team just blew up. #Winning
    Deal with it


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    Anyone bringing up empty stats needs to think about what "empty stats" are. That's usually a phrase reserved for situations when bad teams play bad players, but the bad players score a lot because they're first options.

    Now, how can you tell whether the player is a bad player, and thus a bad first option then? Their efficiency. Here is where the empty stats thing doesn't hold. A bad player, someone who will produce empty stats, will do so on bad efficiency. This is waaaaaay far away from what Love's been doing for the past few years.

    He shot 16/27, 7/11 from 3. If you adjust for the 3 pointer, he shot 19.5/27. That is ridiculously efficient. I thought the Wolves had no chance of winning this one, considering Pek, Beasley and (obviously) Rubio were out of this one with injuries. If Love doesn't pull out this insanely efficient night, the Wolves have no shot.

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