center wise yes....all time prolly top 5-10 for sure
1. Michael Jordan
2. Hakeem Olajuwon
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Jeremy Lin
5. Bill Russel
"Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships."
- Michael Jordan
Thanks MJ-Bulls for the picture.
Exchange Jordan and Hakeem - same teammates, same coach, and now how many titles do they each have?
Hakeem is easily the best all around Center of all time, there isn't anyone that can even offer a decent alternative, besides a mythically healthy Walton.
Low post offense? Top 4 all time, including power forwards (McHale says hi)
Overall defense at C? top 2-4 all time
Out of the paint offense? Top 6-10 all time
Steals? Yeah Steals - #1 all time for a Center
Rebounding? About 5th
Athleticism - #1 all time
Passing - ahh now you have him, not top 15 at C.
Dominating competition in his time - well since the league got fairly competitive at Center around 1965 name me a guy that dominated his peers as well as Hakeem? Maybe 3 other guys?
Pretty good all around - no?
Shaq was a dominating low post offensive player, no doubt. His defense was pretty much done after 5 years. Strong as an ox, not fast, couldn't hit foul shots (had to be sat at times late - ohhhh the shame), couldn't play in an uptempo offense. Shaq can be Hakeems back-up.
BTW, I don't like ranking best or second best. I choose a mythical team that could play together for years (which means 12 scoring champs that don't play D isn't my team, also means the guys can play an all around game). Hakeem is clearly my choice for starting Center, to be joined by Duncan, Bird, Magic, Jordan. What's the absolute rankings of those 5 guys? Who cares? They won't lose with any regularity to any team real or imagined. What's the next best team with a current flair? Shaq, KG, James, Wade, Paul? Not bad - but they don't pass as well, and as a team they have as much proven intestinal fortitude to win. Although at the #2 and #3 my team is a bit lighter on 1 on 1 D. But I'd pay big money to watch it.
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6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”
told you all since 2011 he was a toolbag.....
Well I think the greatest player at each position is
I put Olajuwon over Duncan. I put him over Bird. Do I put him over Magic?
Hakeem is the most skilled center of all time, and IMO is the greatest defensive center of all time (some would argue Russel was). I think he can out-match every center in NBA history in a match up. Although I would have really wanted to see 2000-2002 Shaq (his peak years) against 94-95 Hakeem, that would be a great show. But in terms of career dominance I'd go with
in terms of NBA all-time greats/career/accomplishments etc
but in terms of greatest players of all time Hakeem is not 2nd.